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Final BRP Card Arrived

Post by Hyper-PK » Fri Apr 19, 2013 3:05 pm

Hi guys just let you know that my BRP card was redelivered today by DX courier since I was not at home yesterday. (Was requested redelivery online www.thedx.co.uk/delivery)

So for me all done and dusted for now except wife FLR and meet you guys next year if still alive. I have seen some wonderful people on this forum, especially Damanisshallo, Sanju9 and etc who are always here to help anyone. I really admire their time and effort.

Once again congratulations to who have received their ILR and Best of Luck for the people who are still waiting (I will suggest keep knocking the door until you don’t get response, MP,emails, FAX UKBA, etc). I will still keep an eye on this forum

Regards

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Help,,,,,My wife flr(m)

Post by mer3090 » Fri Apr 19, 2013 4:39 pm

Hi guys,

I was wondering if anyone else has experienced same situation as me::

I have received me ilr 2 weeks ago and all my documents are back since I applied fl(m) for my wife at the same time, her documents are also back with mine but there is no visa no biometric for wife.

we have been waiting for two weeks in case they might have sent it separately but still we have not received anything. I called ukba and they checked her reference number and said her application is still in progress but how is that possible as all her documents are sent back to me?

Did anyone get into this situation and what should I do now?

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Post by Izno » Fri Apr 19, 2013 6:35 pm

hello ,

So when will the case worker do those Background checks ...as according to UKBA this process takes time to get responses back from other govt dept !!

TheGreenTea wrote:My feeling is that there is the following approach:
1. take the payment
2. send the application to the corresponding department.
3. log you into the system
4. request biometrics
Black hole
5. once biometrics received assign to case team
6. assign to case worker

I don't know when UKBA actually looks at the application to determine e.g. that you actually sent the correct form - perhaps before biometrics invitation?

But maybe it is their approach, wait until the deadline (6 months) and then assign it to case worker?

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Post by essentialSalt » Fri Apr 19, 2013 7:33 pm

There is no point in speculating how the home office works. They have to do what they do. The opacity of the process is a problem as acknowledged by the home secretary as well, but there is absolutely nothing one can do (other than making noises) to fasten the process or make the process more transparent.

The home office is also walking on the tight rope. The overall objective is to deter further applications so that the overall number of applications is reduced. They can do this by a) making application requirements tighter, much tighter than before, b) making the application process so opaque such that no one wants to apply and/or c) approving only a certain number of applications a months/quarter/year (this isn't a cap - it's a simple but purposeful delay).

I hate to say it, but I personally support the home office making it difficult for international students (and I would say the EU as well) to enrol on obscure courses at some college that we haven't even heard of. Those students only realise that they have made a mistake/wasted a year after they arrive in the UK. The licensing, in my judgment, has to be even tighter and should be given to reputable 6th form colleges and universities that award qualifications that help those oversea and EU students reach their goals (and have better life). I don't think an undergraduate/postgraduate qualification from a local college (perhaps validated by some university) or some obscure university (if any) no UK student wants to attend actually helps those students in the labour market here or back home. Even in one of good universities, there are courses only a few UK students attend (not just for financial reasons) and rely on the oversea and EU students to maintain lecturers and administrators. MBA in a non-reputable school is a good example.

There are 40 higher education institutions in London and qualifications from some of these universities make it so much easier for us to do what we want to do in our life. Qualifications from others probably make no difference despite the tuition fees. There are many specialist colleges in London as well.

At the same time, the home office has to make sure that every application is treated fairly and promptly. Legitimate applications need to be approved as soon as possible. These operational requirements need to be balanced with their objective/promise/order from the ministers to reduce the overall immigration.

The more you think about it, the more powerless you feel (as an applicant). I understand everyone's frustration and I myself used to think that way. But why don't we focus on things we can control?

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Re: Letter

Post by andie_83 » Fri Apr 19, 2013 9:13 pm

Hi,

Your letter reads great.
Hopefully it will bring you good results soon :)
DRcfox wrote:Andie_83

I decided to write a letter to Teresa May, Rob Whiteman, the Home Office and cc's my MP. My MP's assistant (who is very helpful) was able to find out today that they only acknowledged my application being over six months on the 15th April....when really it would have been on the 31 Feb. Not sure if this is a good sign or a bad sign. Anyway, I thought I would provide a copy of the letter I sent if it might helps others.

Dear Teresa May,
I am writing to you regarding the UKBA and the serious delays (nearly 8 months) with my Indefinite Leave to Remain application. I am not one to complain but, after watching the Channel 4 program UKBA Uncovered, I was so distressed by the state of the UKBA I felt it necessary to voice my concern. I have been corresponding with my local MP NAME regarding my case and he has sent a letter on my behalf regarding the progress of my application. I have also written a personal letter to the head case worker along with two faxes.

Details of my application:
UKBA Ref. No. :
Application Type: SET (O) Applied from within the UK
Application Date: 31 Aug 2012
Main Applicant: NAME D.O.B. , Nationality:
Biometric Enrolment Date: 1 Nov 2012
6 Months wait period completed on 31th February 2013; 7 Months wait period completed on 31th March 2013

My Concerns:
1. Applications made after mine have received a decision while my application has not been allocated to a case worker. UKBA promises that they process applications in the order they are received and this clearly has not happened in my case.

2. UKBA has seriously delayed my application processing beyond their published service standards. This is due to maladministration at UKBA and no fault of my own. This lack of transparency has caused me tremendous mental stress and has prevented me from visiting my partner, my grandmother, and applying for jobs.

3. I was also surprised to see how many other government departments are being affected by the lack of competency of the UKBA. MPs should be focused on solving their constituencies’ and the country’s bigger problems and not having to deal on a daily basis with the failures of this department. Allocating the responsibility to other departments such as Enforcement does not solve the problem but only embeds the issues deeper. To see the UKBA workers laughing about this on the undercover video was quite upsetting.

4. Although dividing cases into a range of difficulty is a good idea, I believe it is too late. I think there needs to be a major government intervention to process the 50,000+ backlog cases and a fundamental transformation of the department is needed. The fact that the show highlighted that nothing has actually changed since the Easter deadline was disturbing.

Please can you provide me with a clear timeline for the processing of my application and clarity about my other concerns? These 50,000+ cases are PEOPLE; people who have paid approximately £1000 for the UKBA to uphold their responsibility. In any other industry, when a deadline is set, you do what is necessary to meet it. That may mean sleepless nights and long weekends but lawyers, doctors, bankers, stockbrokers, sales associates, and students all have to meet their deadlines and thus should the UKBA!

Sleepless in Richmond,

NAME

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:)

Post by andie_83 » Fri Apr 19, 2013 9:26 pm

Dear All,

I received my biometrics card yesterday, just a day after receiving my passport back.
I didn't know the residence permit will come with a 10 years expiry date but well..it's ok. So now I can rest in peace until next year that I apply for citizenship.

Also, the biometrics had written April 16th as approval date so I am sure my documents got reviewed after I wrote the e-mail to Theresa May and the rest. I would suggest everyone who has been waiting for around 8 months does this, but I would discourage anyone who has been waiting just 6 or 7 months otherwise their mailboxes would become as cluttered as UKBA and perhaps even create a backlog there lol.... so let's use them wisely!

I will be checking now and then this forum. If anyone think I can be of help please send me a private message and I will try to help if possible.

All I can say is it felt great to see my biometrics saying I am a permanent resident. I came to this country penniless and very young. I remember I used to work at a small coffee place and when sitting I was asked what I wanted to do. I said I wanted to study at a good university and do something for myself in research. Everyone laughed at me (even a member of my family) and told me "impossible" the fees are too high and that I dream too much.

All I can say is that young girl worked hard and not only managed to pay the high overseas fees in one of their top universities but now is about to teach at one.....and seeing my biometrics made me remember all my journey.

To everyone, keep complaining, keep working hard, your permits will come.

Best of lucks.

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Post by DRcfox » Fri Apr 19, 2013 10:47 pm

Thanks Andie_83

Funny that we have a very similar story...minus mine was a retail shop and not a coffee shop. Best of luck to you!

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Re: :)

Post by dreamfriend » Sat Apr 20, 2013 1:22 am

andie_83 wrote:Dear All,

I received my biometrics card yesterday, just a day after receiving my passport back.
I didn't know the residence permit will come with a 10 years expiry date but well..it's ok. So now I can rest in peace until next year that I apply for citizenship.

Also, the biometrics had written April 16th as approval date so I am sure my documents got reviewed after I wrote the e-mail to Theresa May and the rest. I would suggest everyone who has been waiting for around 8 months does this, but I would discourage anyone who has been waiting just 6 or 7 months otherwise their mailboxes would become as cluttered as UKBA and perhaps even create a backlog there lol.... so let's use them wisely!

I will be checking now and then this forum. If anyone think I can be of help please send me a private message and I will try to help if possible.

All I can say is it felt great to see my biometrics saying I am a permanent resident. I came to this country penniless and very young. I remember I used to work at a small coffee place and when sitting I was asked what I wanted to do. I said I wanted to study at a good university and do something for myself in research. Everyone laughed at me (even a member of my family) and told me "impossible" the fees are too high and that I dream too much.

All I can say is that young girl worked hard and not only managed to pay the high overseas fees in one of their top universities but now is about to teach at one.....and seeing my biometrics made me remember all my journey.

To everyone, keep complaining, keep working hard, your permits will come.

Best of lucks.

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Re: :)

Post by digitalrev » Sat Apr 20, 2013 6:07 am

Congrats andie
andie_83 wrote:Dear All,

I received my biometrics card yesterday, just a day after receiving my passport back.
I didn't know the residence permit will come with a 10 years expiry date but well..it's ok. So now I can rest in peace until next year that I apply for citizenship.

Also, the biometrics had written April 16th as approval date so I am sure my documents got reviewed after I wrote the e-mail to Theresa May and the rest. I would suggest everyone who has been waiting for around 8 months does this, but I would discourage anyone who has been waiting just 6 or 7 months otherwise their mailboxes would become as cluttered as UKBA and perhaps even create a backlog there lol.... so let's use them wisely!

I will be checking now and then this forum. If anyone think I can be of help please send me a private message and I will try to help if possible.

All I can say is it felt great to see my biometrics saying I am a permanent resident. I came to this country penniless and very young. I remember I used to work at a small coffee place and when sitting I was asked what I wanted to do. I said I wanted to study at a good university and do something for myself in research. Everyone laughed at me (even a member of my family) and told me "impossible" the fees are too high and that I dream too much.

All I can say is that young girl worked hard and not only managed to pay the high overseas fees in one of their top universities but now is about to teach at one.....and seeing my biometrics made me remember all my journey.

To everyone, keep complaining, keep working hard, your permits will come.

Best of lucks.

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Re: Fax Number for complaints

Post by saanju9 » Sat Apr 20, 2013 9:54 am

zamiramin wrote:Hi All


I had a death in my family yesterday and I need to write to the UKBA to expedite my application. I have emailed the head of the UKBA as well as the Home Secretary



I applied on 15 September 2012 and provided biometrics on 29 November 2012 . I have now been in the queue for over 7 months. My MP has told me on Monday that my application has not been touched yet.

Does anyone know a number I can Fax to ask for my application to be expedited.

Thanks
Did u let your MP know. Give him evidence, for him to forward it to UKBA... Hopefully that should help...My MP said this to me, but the very next day I had my approval letter and BRP card... luckily Grandma is ok.. So I didn't travelled

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Re: Fax Number for complaints

Post by zamiramin » Sat Apr 20, 2013 10:10 am

saanju9 wrote:
zamiramin wrote:Hi All


I had a death in my family yesterday and I need to write to the UKBA to expedite my application. I have emailed the head of the UKBA as well as the Home Secretary



I applied on 15 September 2012 and provided biometrics on 29 November 2012 . I have now been in the queue for over 7 months. My MP has told me on Monday that my application has not been touched yet.

Does anyone know a number I can Fax to ask for my application to be expedited.

Thanks
Did u let your MP know. Give him evidence, for him to forward it to UKBA... Hopefully that should help...My MP said this to me, but the very next day I had my approval letter and BRP card... luckily Grandma is ok.. So I didn't travelled
Saanju , thank you for that . I emailed Rob Whiteman and his PA tried to get it expedited. Im not hopeful though as she sent the standard response but said i do qualify. I will update my MP as well.

Its pretty dire that despite having waited 7 months i still have to request expedition.

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SET - O (10 years) - FLR-m

Post by DB12 » Sat Apr 20, 2013 11:54 am

Hi All,
I received my biometric card & Passport etc on 15th April following 8 & half months of wait unfortunately my luck was a week behind as I had to post my wife's application (FLR-M) on 5th April. just to share with you here is my wife's application time line.

Application posted - 5th April 13
Acknowledgement - 15th April 13
Biometric letter - 19th April 13 (dated 16th April)
Biometrics submitted - 20th April 13
passport & DOCs received - Awaiting
Biometric CARD - Awaiting.

interesting fact is it took only two weeks for biometrics request where as in my case It took more that 3months.

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Re: SET - O (10 years) - FLR-m

Post by Rensal » Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:33 pm

DB12 wrote:Hi All,
I received my biometric card & Passport etc on 15th April following 8 & half months of wait unfortunately my luck was a week behind as I had to post my wife's application (FLR-M) on 5th April. just to share with you here is my wife's application time line.

Application posted - 5th April 13
Acknowledgement - 15th April 13
Biometric letter - 19th April 13 (dated 16th April)
Biometrics submitted - 20th April 13
passport & DOCs received - Awaiting
Biometric CARD - Awaiting.

interesting fact is it took only two weeks for biometrics request where as in my case It took more that 3months.



hi there,

did you send your originals back to UKBA for your wife's application?

thanks

R

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Post by pisces_kid » Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:44 pm

prettyzkj wrote:I have got reply from my MP today, she enlosed the feedback from UKBA:

“Thank you for your enquiry in respect of your constituent XX. Firstly I apologise that you have not had a response to your enquiry of 28 February 2013. I have however looked into the case of Mr XX and I can confirm the following:

Mr XX currently has leave to remain in the UK as a spouse until 17 October 2013. (my current VISA is going to expired on 13 May 2013 not 17 October 2013) .Applicant’s are advised that they should submit any further applications for leave to remain in the UK prior to the expiry of their current leave. Mr XX , however submitted his application on 22 August 2012. Applicants cannot have two forms of leave running concurrently i.e) as a spouse and also under the long residency rules.(i was successful got my T1(G) dependens visa when my PSW still vaild in 6 months)
Mr XX's application will therefore not be considered until closer to the date that his leave to remain expires. The reasons being that his circumstances now may be different to those prevalent at the time his current leave to remain expires.

I am out of word !!! so angry !! pls anyone can help me to feedback to UKBA to fight back.
It is not a further leave to remain application (FLR), it is a settlement application SET(0)
You have right to say this is tot
ally wrong.

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Distractions!!

Post by Savali » Sat Apr 20, 2013 2:49 pm

BOOM! I guess that gives it away! Funny thing is, last night I sent off the letter of complaint to Teresa May et al, wasn't really expecting much for at least a week, so when my doorbell went at 10am today I ignored it initially but when I eventually caught up with the postman halfway down the street, boy was I glad to see that A4 envelope! My letter is dated 18th, still waiting for BRP but for now I'm in dreamland, running around in the sunny garden, going to be a messy night!!

A word to those still waiting, try and have a distraction to stop you from dwelling on this thing. I'm from an IT background. I was made redundant in Dec so the past 4 months have been quite hard but I've kept busy studying and just pursuing other interests. Don't let the waiting be the focus of your life.

Thank you to every contributor to this forum, we all help to keep each other sane! Will update when my BRP checks in.

PS: My username, Savali, is old Polynesian for patience...above all else, be patient. It will come...

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finely got my ilr today

Post by zeni_iqb » Sat Apr 20, 2013 3:54 pm

hello every one

finely after 8 months of wait got my ilr approvel letter today cant explain how happy i am today over the moon
my time line is

application sent: 21 aug 2012
bio done: 19 nov 2012
ilr approved: 17th april 2013

still waiting for my brp card hopefully get it next week and all thoese waiting have faith u will get yours soon... good luck to every one

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Post by shazib1786 » Sat Apr 20, 2013 6:55 pm

Hi every With the Grace of Almighty God my ILR is approved :D A BIG MASSIVE RELIEF i was early August applicant it took more than 8 months once myself and once my Mp wrote the letter. any way i wish success for all of you from the depth of my heart i always use to pray for every one in my prayers.

guys can anyone advise is it possible to apply for Naturalization within 15 months of date of application of ILR . i Mean for example a person apply for ILR on August 2012 and get it approved on April 2013 after 8 months of process ( where delays has happened due to no fault of him but the UKBA )

Can he apply for naturalization on November 2013

OR

he can only apply after April 2014 ( after one years of ILR approval).

If yes please give the reference or link as i talked to solicitor he says there is no capacity on concession in rules within 15 months of application date only possible after one year of Granted ILR

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Post by Damanisshallo » Sat Apr 20, 2013 8:16 pm

shazib1786 wrote:If yes please give the reference or link as i talked to solicitor he says there is no capacity on concession in rules within 15 months of application date only possible after one year of Granted ILR
Paragraph 7.5g @ page 16 wrote: consideration of an application for indefinite leave to remain, made more than 15 months before the citizenship application, had been protracted through no fault of the applicant, providing ILR was eventually granted. This can include applications for asylum which have resulted in the grant of ILR (you should note that any asylum cases granted on or after the 30 August 2005 will not result in ILR, applicants will instead be given limited leave) ; or
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Re: SET - O (10 years) - FLR-m

Post by DB12 » Sat Apr 20, 2013 8:25 pm

Hi rensal. No I haven't return my passport, as I need to apply for my sons citizen registration. But couple of senior member on this forum suggested me that I don't need to send it as they would already aware of due to my wife's file is linked to my application.as now my wife has submitted biometric and her file will be allocated to a caseworker I will probably phone them to confirm if they still require my original passport and bio card
Rensal wrote:
DB12 wrote:Hi All,
I received my biometric card & Passport etc on 15th April following 8 & half months of wait unfortunately my luck was a week behind as I had to post my wife's application (FLR-M) on 5th April. just to share with you here is my wife's application time line.

Application posted - 5th April 13
Acknowledgement - 15th April 13
Biometric letter - 19th April 13 (dated 16th April)
Biometrics submitted - 20th April 13
passport & DOCs received - Awaiting
Biometric CARD - Awaiting.

interesting fact is it took only two weeks for biometrics request where as in my case It took more that 3months.



hi there,

did you send your originals back to UKBA for your wife's application?

thanks

R

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Re: SET - O (10 years) - FLR-m

Post by z18runway » Sat Apr 20, 2013 10:31 pm

DB12 wrote:Hi rensal. No I haven't return my passport, as I need to apply for my sons citizen registration. But couple of senior member on this forum suggested me that I don't need to send it as they would already aware of due to my wife's file is linked to my application.
The reason it was told that many members do send spouse flr(m) application along with set(o) because their spouse visa may be expiring along with their main applicant including me. so there is no chance of sending sponsors passport for flr(m) and giving reason that it is with UKBA and awaiting decision and later flr(m) visa will be awarded after the main applicant case considered.

but in your case i don't know that you have already received your passport and brp.

But anyway nothing wrong, just keep an eye on the post , best of luck. Please do call them or write to them whether they need your documents ?

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