10 years long residence applications

Damanisshallo wrote:

NeedAdvice62 wrote:Dear Damanisshallo

Thanks for your reply.Some points arose from your reply which are as follows:

You have suggested not to apply child home passport until the whole process is completed.How is it benefit to us ? What the reason behind it?

Only to save some £££'s for applying passport and some countries even charge you to surrender passport.

When I got ILR and applied MNI Application what will I write my child nationality in the form without his passport?

Whatever nationality is yours and there is a question where it asks you if you had any other previous passports? you might say no as this would be his first passport.

With respect to my wife application, Will I need to wait for the decision of MNI application before applying for my wife application?

No, you can apply for both simultaneously.


You also suggested using the SET(M) application but you also informed that one of your friend got ILR using the SET(O) instead SET(M).What form I need to use?

Yes, everyday is a learning curve and I learnt this last night. You can do the same to save both time and £££'s

Kind regards

members wrote:Dear Damanisshallo,

I am sure what you have advised above (marked in red) is right as you are talking from experience. But I am a bit confused, and at the same time concerned being a potential applicant, as to the inherent meaning of section 2.2 and 2.3 of FLR(M).

The categories, asked by section 2.2, deal with a scenario where the main applicant/sponsor is present and settled in the UK: there are no options for a PBS dependant's leave to enter/remain. Will it, still, be okay to answer NO in section 2.2 specially when the main applicant/sponsor has yet to be granted settlement?

This is because the application will not be considered until the main applicant gets his decision. Also, this is the first time ever she'd have applied using FLR (M).

There are other sections in the FLR(M) with similar uncertainties. Section 6.9, for example, asks whether the applicant has lived with the sponsor since the last granted leave as a partner. Although the applicant could be filing the FLR(M) for the first time, she has been living with her husband since 2010. Based on this, she will have to tick yes to section 6.9.

This is to check the relationship and not the kind of visa she was on.


Is it because of the paragraph above, any partner, who was granted leave as a partner of either a settled person or of a migrant, will be ticking no to section 2.2?

In a way, Yes.


Thanks in advance, and let me reiterate my position here: I just wanted to clear my confusions but NOT to say that you could possibly be wrong.

NeedAdvice62 wrote: Damanisshallo ,

Thanks again for your advice.And one last thing to ask about English Language Assessment for my wife.

My Wife have M.Com Degree from Pakistan(University of the Punjab).In order to meet the requirement Will I need the following document:
Am I right or not?

1-Original Award
2-Transcript
3-Letter from university that the Course was taught and assessed in English
4-Statement of Comparability from UK-NARIC
5-Statement of English Language Assessment from UK-NARIC

Do I need to apply for two statements from UK-NARIC or not?

Statement of Comparability from UK-NARIC should do. I'd have thought UK-NARIC wouldn't evaluate anything above Bachelor's Degree. Go with Bachelor's Degree if this was in English.

Further my wife did IELTS Academic with overall score 5.

4 from speaking
5.5 from listening
5 from writing
5 from reading .

But as validity of 2 years that expired.

Please advice me regarding to meet the English Language Requirement for my wife ILR application in 2015 after my ILR under Long residency.

Please also provide me a sample letter that My wife need from the University as the professor asked so that he will issue the same letter on University Letter Head.

This is to certify that <insert name> has followed a programme of study over a period of <insert duration> at <insert institution name> leading to a <insert qualification>. This course commenced in <insert month and year> and was complete by <insert month and year>. <Insert name again> attained his degree at the level of <insert result>.

Although this institution is based in <insert country>, this particular course was taught in English throughout, and also examined in that language.


I will be very thankful to you.
Kind regards.

Amin109 wrote:Hello,

I am planning on submitting my application for ILR very soon. I came to the UK as a student in Sep 2003, and changed my status to PSW in 2010 and now I am on Tier 2.

When I was a student, as part of my PhD course work, I spent a significant amount of time abroad collecting data for my PhD (about a year but I do remember coming back to the UK at one point during the year). I still had a valid student visa then and was a registered full-time student at my institution. However, I don't exactly remember when I left the UK to collect data and came back to the UK. I would go through my old passport if I still had it. However, my previous two passports got lost in transit from the Home Office to my residence when I applied for Tier 2 last year. The Royal Mail declared them missing at a later date.

My question is twofold. First, will my absence from the UK relating to my studies be considered to be a break in continuous residence?
Second, how should I fill in the section D3 if I don't remember exact dates I left the UK and came back? I imagine many of us don't remember all the trips made in last 10 years especially if you travel a lot for work or you have friends and family abroad which is the case for many of us here.

Any advice appreciated.

Thanks.

smileybee wrote:I am going to apply for ILR in December.

I entered UK on 2nd of Jan 2004. My visa was issued in September 2003, just wonder does the 10 years period start from September or from the date I first enter UK?

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/visas ... rmset(LR)/

your answer is under "Can I apply using this form?" - copy and past the above link

Also in Section 4 of form Set (LR), am I right to assume the documents are required if I have one or more missing passport? or do i require them to support my application?

It clearly states (under the third check box) "If you cannot provide them all"... here "all" referring to your passports... yes if you can't produce your previous passports...

Thirdly, everytime I leave UK there is no stamp from UK or the country I enter. I dont have boarding pass for the past 10 years. What should I do?

there should be a stamp from the country your entering however if you missed that... some of the above said docs might be relevant and an SAR might be in help (although not sure how it can help if none has recorded your out going)... could you be more explicit about your movements... try your flight tickets...emails, travel agents, or anything else just to get the dates and we can see what evidence we can provide to the HO


Thanks

MALIK_KHAN wrote:Hi Damanisshallo
Thankyou so much for your response yesterday regarding my questions and just have another query as

1. On SET(LR) B15 if i have lived on different address in last 5 years and they are more than 2 as the space avaiable to mention on form, will it be fine if i add extra MS WORD sheet and write couple of extra adress on that instead of attaching a same page twice in application with extra address details on it so shall i fill the extra plain MS WORD sheet ?? your advice needed plz

Yes, You can do so.

2. I am also sending 1 pay slip and couple of month bank statment with my 10 year ILR application although not required but just to show i am ecnomically active so whats your suggestion shall i submit them or dont send anything other than passports, life in uk test and photos.

It's completely your choice. I wouldn't or to be precise I didn't.

i would really appreciate your kind response.
Thanks in advance

saanju9 wrote:

Amin109 wrote:Hello,

I am planning on submitting my application for ILR very soon. I came to the UK as a student in Sep 2003, and changed my status to PSW in 2010 and now I am on Tier 2.

When I was a student, as part of my PhD course work, I spent a significant amount of time abroad collecting data for my PhD (about a year but I do remember coming back to the UK at one point during the year). I still had a valid student visa then and was a registered full-time student at my institution. However, I don't exactly remember when I left the UK to collect data and came back to the UK. I would go through my old passport if I still had it. However, my previous two passports got lost in transit from the Home Office to my residence when I applied for Tier 2 last year. The Royal Mail declared them missing at a later date.

My question is twofold. First, will my absence from the UK relating to my studies be considered to be a break in continuous residence?
Second, how should I fill in the section D3 if I don't remember exact dates I left the UK and came back? I imagine many of us don't remember all the trips made in last 10 years especially if you travel a lot for work or you have friends and family abroad which is the case for many of us here.

Any advice appreciated.

Thanks.

Apply for SAR... you will have all details...it takes a bit time so be aware

Goodluck...

Damanisshallo wrote:

NeedAdvice62 wrote: Damanisshallo ,

Thanks again for your advice.And one last thing to ask about English Language Assessment for my wife.

My Wife have M.Com Degree from Pakistan(University of the Punjab).In order to meet the requirement Will I need the following document:
Am I right or not?

1-Original Award
2-Transcript
3-Letter from university that the Course was taught and assessed in English
4-Statement of Comparability from UK-NARIC
5-Statement of English Language Assessment from UK-NARIC

Do I need to apply for two statements from UK-NARIC or not?

Statement of Comparability from UK-NARIC should do. I'd have thought UK-NARIC wouldn't evaluate anything above Bachelor's Degree. Go with Bachelor's Degree if this was in English.

Further my wife did IELTS Academic with overall score 5.

4 from speaking
5.5 from listening
5 from writing
5 from reading .

But as validity of 2 years that expired.

Please advice me regarding to meet the English Language Requirement for my wife ILR application in 2015 after my ILR under Long residency.

Please also provide me a sample letter that My wife need from the University as the professor asked so that he will issue the same letter on University Letter Head.

This is to certify that <insert name> has followed a programme of study over a period of <insert duration> at <insert institution name> leading to a <insert qualification>. This course commenced in <insert month and year> and was complete by <insert month and year>. <Insert name again> attained his degree at the level of <insert result>.

Although this institution is based in <insert country>, this particular course was taught in English throughout, and also examined in that language.


I will be very thankful to you.
Kind regards.

suzuka23 wrote:Well, this is the 3rd refusal this week. I received the reply yesterday and got refused. I really didn't expect this at all. Reason is I had a break in my continuous stay between the 31/03/2009 and 12/05/2013. They did not apply 3C at all where I clearly had an appeal valid until the 24/04/2013 (refusal of post study work visa) and decided to leave an apply through my job.

Good luck to all who are waiting

suzuka23 wrote:Well, this is the 3rd refusal this week. I received the reply yesterday and got refused. I really didn't expect this at all. Reason is I had a break in my continuous stay between the 31/03/2009 and 12/05/2013. They did not apply 3C at all where I clearly had an appeal valid until the 24/04/2013 (refusal of post study work visa) and decided to leave an apply through my job.

Good luck to all who are waiting

Temporary admission only qualifies as lawful residence if leave to enter or leave to remain is
later granted. For example, if an applicant is granted leave following a period of temporary
admission, the time on temporary admission counts as lawful residence.

R556 wrote:

suzuka23 wrote:Well, this is the 3rd refusal this week. I received the reply yesterday and got refused. I really didn't expect this at all. Reason is I had a break in my continuous stay between the 31/03/2009 and 12/05/2013. They did not apply 3C at all where I clearly had an appeal valid until the 24/04/2013 (refusal of post study work visa) and decided to leave an apply through my job.

Good luck to all who are waiting

Very upset news. It seems this is the season of refusals. Do you have appeal right?

john100v wrote:

suzuka23 wrote:Well, this is the 3rd refusal this week. I received the reply yesterday and got refused. I really didn't expect this at all. Reason is I had a break in my continuous stay between the 31/03/2009 and 12/05/2013. They did not apply 3C at all where I clearly had an appeal valid until the 24/04/2013 (refusal of post study work visa) and decided to leave an apply through my job.

Good luck to all who are waiting

Thats really sad suzuka... when you say (break between 31/03/2009 and 12/05/2013), I guess you didn't have a visa while applying for ILR. The temporary leave is considered and counted only when the visa is issued later on. Not sure in your case...seniors can explain.

Temporary admission only qualifies as lawful residence if leave to enter or leave to remain is
later granted. For example, if an applicant is granted leave following a period of temporary
admission, the time on temporary admission counts as lawful residence.

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... iew=Binary

NeedAdvice62 wrote:Dear Damanisshallo,

I have checked UK-Naric website but Statement of Comparability does not contain any information on the medium of instruction.It means I also need to apply English Language Assessment by UK-Naric.

Please check the question and answer that I found on the UK- Naric website as follows.

What is the difference between a Statement of Comparability and English Language Assessment?

The UK NARIC Statement of Comparability is an officially recognised document that confirms the recognition of an overseas qualification and its comparable level in the UK, irrespective of it being an academic, vocational or professional award. It does not contain any information on the medium of instruction.

The English Language Assessment assesses whether an individual's English language proficiency is equivalent to CEFR level C1, based on completion of an English language test or academic qualifications taught in English. This service comments only on English proficiency and does not include information on the comparable level of the award.



What you suggest now? Do I need to apply for both Statement of Comparability and English Language Assessment or not?

I'd say go for English Language Assessment as it clearly states.

UKNARIC wrote:UK NARIC's English Language Assessment provides an assessment and a statement:

• to confirm whether an individual's approved English language test meets the required level of English language proficiency (CEFR level C1)
  to confirm whether your degree has been taught in English and meets the required level of English language proficiency (CEFR level C1).

Secondly you also advised that instead of Master degree I should use the Bachelor degree, But to meet the English Language requirement the qualification must be at least equivalent to Uk Bachelor Degree.
As I assume that
Pakistan Bachelor degree is not equivalent to UK Bachelor Degree
Pakistan Master degree may be equivalent to atleast UK Bachelor Degree

Please Advice me what is the best for me to follow as statement of comparability can compare overseas Master degree to UK equivalent but Uk-Naric does not provide an English language assessment of overseas degrees which are comparable to UK Master's and research degrees.

Waiting for your reply.

UKNARIC wrote:UK NARIC will not be able to assess any tests, which are not included on the Home Office list of approved English language tests or provide an English language assessment of overseas degrees which are comparable to UK Master's and research degrees.

However, Sarara did managed to get her master's degree assessed.

Sorry it was all in 2009. So I have been in the UK continuous lawful stay for over 10 years now. I really didn't expect a refusal. Well I will apply again in June under 5 years work route

31/03/2009 and 12/05/2009. They did not apply 3C at all where I clearly had an appeal valid until the 24/04/2009

suzuka23 wrote:Well, this is the 3rd refusal this week. I received the reply yesterday and got refused. I really didn't expect this at all. Reason is I had a break in my continuous stay between the 31/03/2009 and 12/05/2013. They did not apply 3C at all where I clearly had an appeal valid until the 24/04/2013 (refusal of post study work visa) and decided to leave an apply through my job.

Good luck to all who are waiting

ppycrmt wrote:I applied for my ILR today based on 8 years student and 2 years PSW. Can someone please help me update the skydrive?

Sent 2 photos, previous passports, Life in the UK certificate, and my biometric card.

Thanks.

john100v wrote:@suzuka

Sorry it was all in 2009. So I have been in the UK continuous lawful stay for over 10 years now. I really didn't expect a refusal. Well I will apply again in June under 5 years work route

31/03/2009 and 12/05/2009. They did not apply 3C at all where I clearly had an appeal valid until the 24/04/2009

Have you appealed by then? If not appealed, on what date you applied for then new leave to remain?

suzuka23 wrote:

john100v wrote:@suzuka

Sorry it was all in 2009. So I have been in the UK continuous lawful stay for over 10 years now. I really didn't expect a refusal. Well I will apply again in June under 5 years work route

31/03/2009 and 12/05/2009. They did not apply 3C at all where I clearly had an appeal valid until the 24/04/2009

Have you appealed by then? If not appealed, on what date you applied for then new leave to remain?

No I didn't appeal because I got a job and they were willing to sponsor me so I went back to my country on the 07/04/09 and got my Tier 2 visa on the 12/05/09. So is this what they considered a break in lawful stay? despite having a right to appeal valid until the 24/04/09. I was hoping they would use discretionary case and study case by case but that is not the case

jony_dhaka wrote:Skydrive Job done . your documents are fine . Wish you all the best .

ppycrmt wrote:I applied for my ILR today based on 8 years student and 2 years PSW. Can someone please help me update the skydrive?

Sent 2 photos, previous passports, Life in the UK certificate, and my biometric card.

Thanks.

suzuka23 wrote:Well, this is the 3rd refusal this week. I received the reply yesterday and got refused. I really didn't expect this at all. Reason is I had a break in my continuous stay between the 31/03/2009 and 12/05/2009. They did not apply 3C at all where I clearly had an appeal valid until the 24/04/2009 (refusal of post study work visa) and decided to leave an apply through my job.

Good luck to all who are waiting