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I'm preparing to make an application under this category later this year.aman5 wrote:Boonbin
Agree with you....let me also make a passing reference to userid Wanderer's post on this thread....there is a saying in the army 'rather then creating problems, try to offer solutions'....what this person is doing is indulging in:
1. Shoot and scoot policy.
2. Perhaps even trying to discourage a positive, constructive dialogue on this thread on this issue by his negative, discouraging remarks.
Please also check his 'smart alec' remark to my post on Article 8 on General Immigration forum.... let's all just ignore such posts and concentrate, instead, in finding a solution to this ongoing problem....
Well, yes and noâ€¦.comparing 10 year ILR with asylum applications is a bit like comparing â€˜apples and orangesâ€™â€¦.in fact a few pages back we were discussing why 10 year ILR shouldnâ€™t be clubbed with asylum application at HO....Making the 10 year application is a bit like making an asylum application because each case is unique and there are no standard requirements.
And who exactly is doing that?aman5 wrote:Thank God majority people posting on this thread are genuine posts so occasionally when concerted effort is made by a handful few who try to derail the thread by posting subtle messages which on the surface may look perfectly harmless....but on closer inspection, it is clear they are acting as a spokesperson of UKBA not only defending UKBA's decisions in their posts but at the same time taking subtle pot shots at 10 year ILR applicants in their posts....
Look at specifically 2 posts of today afternoon posted on this thread and it would be clear what was the real agenda of these mischievous posts (and to make it clear userid 'terriblefish' post was not one of them)....
Unless these spokesperson of UKBA think people on this thread are so gullible as they would not be able to see through their mischievous posts, let me state that such mischievous posts (which are made to derail the thread by either trying to deviate attention from the thread's core topic or their efforts to subtly try to defend UKBA in their posts), may I suggest these so called Gurus acting in cohesion try their Psy. Op. on some other place.
Who is this 'we' (you are talking about)? I can't speak for others but please exclude me from this 'we' as I don't share your sentiments (i.e. there is nothing that can be done)....there is pretty much nothing we can do
I am happy to be proven wrong. I will lend you my support if you need it - however it is very likely you will get your passport back before you manage to put together the logistics required for an assault on UKBA at the courts. The HSMP issue did not happen overnight and correct me if I am wrong, once you receive your passport with your ILR, would you still go on battling for others who may not have been so lucky? I thought not.aman5 wrote:Who is this 'we' (you are talking about)? I can't speak for others but please exclude me from this 'we' as I don't share your sentiments (i.e. there is nothing that can be done)....there is pretty much nothing we can do
HSMP court case has shown the way that it may be possible to stem the rot by legal intervention....so there is nothing 'fait accompli' or 'inevitable' that everyone should simply resign to the fact that 'nothing can be done' and simply accept it as a result of their bad karma....
Short of crystal ball analysis, I would be very interested in knowing how you came to such a startling conclusion? And even more puzzling, you first raise a query (â€˜would you still go on battling for othersâ€™?) and then also proceed to answer it on my behalf (â€˜I thought notâ€™). Wowâ€¦.in fact a double wow.would you still go on battling for others who may not have been so lucky? I thought not.
In this thread, I am at least trying to get people together to, hopefully, launch a joint concerted action in the Court of lawâ€¦.all you have done, so far, is (1) moan and groan and spread pessimism by your recent posts e.g. â€˜there is pretty much nothing we can doâ€™ etc. as well as (2) mostly indulged just in arm chair analysis and pass judgments on actions of othersâ€¦.so foxy my friend â€˜ just plain talk and nothing else is even easierâ€™ especially when done by just watching the action sitting on the sidelinesâ€¦.at least majority of us are trying to offer solutions and try to make things happen to get all of us out of this current imbroglioâ€¦.sadly, the same cannot be said for the other minor few on this thread.Pep talk is very easy, but we have to be realistic in this.
So unless a solution as dictated by you i.e. unless 'I can get a judge to push their buttons in a matter of weeksâ€™ (solutions in a jiffy perhaps with a magic wand, eh?) is not followed by others right down to the last â€˜Tâ€™, according to you â€˜it's time to stop harping about action like empty barrelsâ€™ (logical argument wise my friend foxy, I am afraid, you are now scrapping right at the bottom of the barrel)â€¦.So yeah, if you think you can get a judge to push their buttons in a matter of weeks