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A child on Visit visa to Indefinite leave to remain?

Post by Batou1956 » Wed Sep 22, 2021 5:32 am

Hello all,
Please I need your help; in fact, I am a settle parent in UK my daughter visited me on visitor visa and refused to go back home hence she is with me here right now and is 16 years old.
I am looking to switch her visa from visitor to settle person. Is this possible?
I was reading online and noticed that a child can only be given the same type of visa on which the parent hold, this means because I have indefinite leave to remain my daughter is eligible to be my dependent and can only apply for indefinite leave to remain. Is this correct? If not, what will be the correct application to make for her? Please i am waiting for any suggestion from you guys.
Thanks all for reading my concerns and your support, may the almighty bless you all

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Re: A child on Visit visa to Indefinite leave to remain?

Post by CR001 » Wed Sep 22, 2021 6:11 am

A person cannot usually switch from a visitor visa to another immigration category in the UK.

You were also already advised on the process when you asked last year and the same will apply,you have to prove sole responsibility if you wish your daughter to live in the UK.

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Re: A child on Visit visa to Indefinite leave to remain?

Post by secret.simon » Wed Sep 22, 2021 6:13 am

One can't switch from a visit visa to any form of residence visa from within the UK.

Your daughter will have to return to her home country and make a child dependent visa application.

What is your UK immigration status? Are you on ILR or are you on Settled Status under the UK Immigration Rules?

Also,what is the UK Immigration status of the other parent? Or do you have sole responsibility (ideally, a court order of custody) for the child?

Keep in mind that the child will get the UK immigration status of the less-privileged parent, unless you can prove sole responsibility.
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Re: A child on Visit visa to Indefinite leave to remain?

Post by Batou1956 » Wed Sep 22, 2021 6:16 am

CR001 wrote:
Wed Sep 22, 2021 6:11 am
Where is the other parent and what is their immigration status?
Thanks for the question CR001,

I have a sold responsibility on my daughter, she was living with my mother, the other parent is not in UK.

Thanks

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Re: A child on Visit visa to Indefinite leave to remain?

Post by secret.simon » Wed Sep 22, 2021 6:18 am

Batou1956 wrote:
Wed Sep 22, 2021 6:16 am
I have a sold responsibility on my daughter
Would you be able to demonstrate it with a court order or an agreement made with the other parent, for instance?
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Re: A child on Visit visa to Indefinite leave to remain?

Post by Batou1956 » Wed Sep 22, 2021 6:21 am

secret.simon wrote:
Wed Sep 22, 2021 6:13 am
One can't switch from a visit visa to any form of residence visa from within the UK.

Your daughter will have to return to her home country and make a child dependent visa application.

What is your UK immigration status? Are you on ILR or are you on Settled Status under the UK Immigration Rules?

Also,what is the UK Immigration status of the other parent? Or do you have sole responsibility (ideally, a court order of custody) for the child?

Keep in mind that the child will get the UK immigration status of the less-privileged parent, unless you can prove sole responsibility.
Thanks Dear,
I am a settle person in UK and have sole responsibility on my daughter, my daughter can not go back and I dont really want her to go back we are family here.
Any suggestion?

Thanks

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Re: A child on Visit visa to Indefinite leave to remain?

Post by Batou1956 » Wed Sep 22, 2021 6:23 am

secret.simon wrote:
Wed Sep 22, 2021 6:18 am
Batou1956 wrote:
Wed Sep 22, 2021 6:16 am
I have a sold responsibility on my daughter
Would you be able to demonstrate it with a court order or an agreement made with the other parent, for instance?
Yes I can demonstrate that with all documents
Thanks

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Re: A child on Visit visa to Indefinite leave to remain?

Post by secret.simon » Wed Sep 22, 2021 6:26 am

Batou1956 wrote:
Wed Sep 22, 2021 6:21 am
I am a settle person in UK
Again, under the Appendix EU or under a different part of the Immigration Rules?
Batou1956 wrote:
Wed Sep 22, 2021 6:21 am
my daughter can not go back
Why can she not go back?

I do not see any way other than her leaving the UK and moving to a country where she has residence rights (such as the country of her citizenship(s)) and making a child dependent application from there.
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Re: A child on Visit visa to Indefinite leave to remain?

Post by Batou1956 » Wed Sep 22, 2021 6:38 am

secret.simon wrote:
Wed Sep 22, 2021 6:26 am
Batou1956 wrote:
Wed Sep 22, 2021 6:21 am
I am a settle person in UK
Again, under the Appendix EU or under a different part of the Immigration Rules?
Batou1956 wrote:
Wed Sep 22, 2021 6:21 am
my daughter can not go back
Why can she not go back?

I do not see any way other than her leaving the UK and moving to a country where she has residence rights (such as the country of her citizenship(s)) and making a child dependent application from there.
I got my indefinite leave to remain under familiy and private life 5 years route (Father of a Brtish child).

I dont want her to go back as my mother who was looking after her back home is not well, her health has deteriorated and my daughter feel home here with her brother and sister.

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Re: A child on Visit visa to Indefinite leave to remain?

Post by secret.simon » Wed Sep 22, 2021 6:45 am

Batou1956 wrote:
Wed Sep 22, 2021 6:38 am
feel home here with her brother and sister.
"Feels at home" is neither here nor there. The Home Office does not make decisions on feelings.

Your daughter is 16 years old. Surely she can stay on her own for a while in her home country while her child dependent visa is being considered.

Cases like these, where people arrive on visit visas and then do not leave because it "feels like home" makes it harder for other people to get their families here for genuine short visits.

EDIT: Being realistic, your daughter will likely feel the full force of the "hostile environment" if she continues to reside in the UK. She will not be eligible to either study or work in the UK on a visit visa.

She will almost certainly not be given ILR as she has not arrived here on a child dependent visa. She may be given Leave Outside The Rules with a 10 year path to ILR.

Even assuming that she gets ILR (highly improbable), if she were to go to university in England, she will be charged Overseas student fees with no access to student finance as she has not resided for three years in the UK.
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Re: A child on Visit visa to Indefinite leave to remain?

Post by AmazonianX » Wed Sep 22, 2021 7:58 am

Batou1956 wrote:
Wed Sep 22, 2021 6:21 am
secret.simon wrote:
Wed Sep 22, 2021 6:13 am
One can't switch from a visit visa to any form of residence visa from within the UK.

Your daughter will have to return to her home country and make a child dependent visa application.

What is your UK immigration status? Are you on ILR or are you on Settled Status under the UK Immigration Rules?

Also,what is the UK Immigration status of the other parent? Or do you have sole responsibility (ideally, a court order of custody) for the child?

Keep in mind that the child will get the UK immigration status of the less-privileged parent, unless you can prove sole responsibility.
Thanks Dear,
I am a settle person in UK and have sole responsibility on my daughter, my daughter can not go back and I dont really want her to go back we are family here.
Any suggestion?

Thanks
It is not really a function of you not wanting her to go back.
Instead of the visitor visa you got for her to come into UK, was there a reason why you didn't go directly for the appropriate route that will make her stay and be with you as family?
As other stated, look forward to hassles.

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Re: A child on Visit visa to Indefinite leave to remain?

Post by Batou1956 » Sat Sep 25, 2021 8:29 pm

Good evening all,

Please cab someone share with me the link for the fee waiver application?

Thanks and God bless you all

Cheers

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Re: A child on Visit visa to Indefinite leave to remain?

Post by secret.simon » Sun Sep 26, 2021 2:33 am

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Re: A child on Visit visa to Indefinite leave to remain?

Post by vinny » Sun Sep 26, 2021 4:29 am

See also visit visa.
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Re: A child on Visit visa to Indefinite leave to remain?

Post by Batou1956 » Mon Oct 25, 2021 4:01 am

vinny wrote:
Sun Sep 26, 2021 4:29 am
See also visit visa.
Good morning Dears,

Please does anyone has an idea on how long the fee waiver application take after documents have been uploaded in the system?

Thanks for your understanding and cooperation

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Re: A child on Visit visa to Indefinite leave to remain?

Post by JB007 » Mon Oct 25, 2021 6:31 pm

Batou1956 wrote:
Sat Sep 25, 2021 8:29 pm


Please cab someone share with me the link for the fee waiver application?
If you can't afford the fees, then how will you be able to afford to pay for any medical care your daughter might want?

It's changed a lot since you were an overstayer as the UK has brought in laws to make a "hostile environment" to make it hard for overstayers: secret.simon spoke of this above.
e.g.
The Immigration Act 2014
The NHS changes in April 2015
The Immigration Act 2016
The NHS England changes in October 2017.

In additions to what secret.simon said, it also means not being allowed to rent, or be in a rented property, or rent a room/s with the landlord in the property (tenancy agreement holder can be evicted if they allow illegal immigrants and landlords get fined or prison).

No NHS for free unless that service is free for visitors; no driving; no bank accounts. NHS England must refuse treatment if not paid in full in advance. Human Rights means only life saving treatment must be given without payment in advicne to allow the visitor to return home for treatment and that is still billed and the bill cannot be waived. NHS debts can be collected from your employer before your salary is paid, or from your benefits/state pension, or your goods sold to pay towards the debt (via debt collectors). NHS debts can effect further visas to enter or remain in the country.

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