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Post by rajesh_kumar01 » Thu Jun 23, 2011 6:17 pm

[quote="geekhatri"][quote="rajesh_kumar01"][quote="dba_kkk"]Hi All,

I have gone through the entire thread
Reading some post gave me mixed suggestions and for the people who contacted HO got various answers

I am due in oct to apply for settlement

I came to UK in oct 2006 – then my visa is called (Highly Skilled migrant)
Had and extension in oct 2008 – now visa is called Tier1 (highly skilled migrant)

Reading the latest form SETO /section3/B

Has got 2 options which are relevant to me (after reading the thread)

Tier 1 (General) Migrant applying under the terms of the HSMP Forum Judicial Review Policy Document

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... cialreview

Highly skilled migrant under the terms of HSMP ILR judicial review policy document

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... -09-policy


As some the members suggested to select the second option and some first ï

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Post by geekhatri » Thu Jun 23, 2011 9:01 pm

I guess even without these letters one should be fine . As I know few of my friends have got ILR in same category as of mine(HSMp JR) in the same week without these letters.

cheers[/quote]

thanks a lot, wat a relief??

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Question need to be answered

Post by San_798 » Fri Jun 24, 2011 2:27 pm

Hi Memebers,

Can anyone confirm do i need to fill section 9 Point scorring as I will be applying under HSMP JR pre nov 2006?

Also which one i need to tick 10G or 10H?

Thanks/regards
Sanuel

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Re: Question need to be answered

Post by rajesh_kumar01 » Fri Jun 24, 2011 2:39 pm

San_798 wrote:Hi Memebers,

Can anyone confirm do i need to fill section 9 Point scorring as I will be applying under HSMP JR pre nov 2006?

Also which one i need to tick 10G or 10H?

Thanks/regards
Sanuel
If you read msg above ur , you will find the answer

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Post by San_798 » Fri Jun 24, 2011 4:23 pm

Thanks Rajesh , I got n answere.

Just a last question on SET (0) form, there are two payment details pages(CESC Appl and SET (0)) is there which one i need to fill?

Thanks
Sanuel

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Post by rajesh_kumar01 » Fri Jun 24, 2011 4:46 pm

San_798 wrote:Thanks Rajesh , I got n answere.

Just a last question on SET (0) form, there are two payment details pages(CESC Appl and SET (0)) is there which one i need to fill?

Thanks
Sanuel
its depend on your nationality.

ready both pages at the top..

Council of Europe Social Charter (CESC), ie Croatia, FYR Macedonia and Turkey, but only if they are applying in any of the following categories or routes: work permit holder, highly skilled migrant (of either kind), Tier 1 (General) migrant, Tier 1 (Entrepreneur) migrant and Tier 2 migrant. The fees for such applications are £875 for applications made by post or courier, or £1215 for premium service applications at our PEOs.

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Post by HSMPgafla » Mon Jun 27, 2011 1:13 pm

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... iew=Binary
Please check page 16.
Does it mean that you can apply for ILR after 4 years if you have made your initial application ON or before 3rd April.
Before it was saying considering application made BEFORE 3rd April, but now i guess they will consider yr application if made ON and BEFORE 3rd April.

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My experience at PEO,Croydon - ILR Success (HSMP/tier 1)

Post by geekhatri » Mon Jun 27, 2011 8:25 pm

[quote="rajesh_kumar01"][quote="geekhatri"][quote="rajesh_kumar01"][quote="dba_kkk"]Hi All,

I have gone through the entire thread
Reading some post gave me mixed suggestions and for the people who contacted HO got various answers

I am due in oct to apply for settlement

I came to UK in oct 2006 – then my visa is called (Highly Skilled migrant)
Had and extension in oct 2008 – now visa is called Tier1 (highly skilled migrant)

Reading the latest form SETO /section3/B

Has got 2 options which are relevant to me (after reading the thread)

Tier 1 (General) Migrant applying under the terms of the HSMP Forum Judicial Review Policy Document

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... cialreview

Highly skilled migrant under the terms of HSMP ILR judicial review policy document

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... -09-policy


As some the members suggested to select the second option and some first ï

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why 2 years for spouse?

Post by fora » Mon Jun 27, 2011 9:10 pm

Hi,Guys.
You wrote that the PEO asked you to prove that your wife lived with you for 2 years while you applied under HSMP JR policy. But it is stated that " the immigration status of dependants of migrants of the categories covered by this policy will follow that of the principal applicant." As I understand it is irrespective of the period of living together.My husband lives with me only one year.I am applying(HSMP pre Nov 2006) for ILR in October 2011(I include him). Does this mean that it can be a problem for my husband -only 1 year living together? Who knows?
Thank you

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Re: why 2 years for spouse?

Post by geekhatri » Tue Jun 28, 2011 7:44 pm

fora wrote:Hi,Guys.
You wrote that the PEO asked you to prove that your wife lived with you for 2 years while you applied under HSMP JR policy. But it is stated that " the immigration status of dependants of migrants of the categories covered by this policy will follow that of the principal applicant." As I understand it is irrespective of the period of living together.My husband lives with me only one year.I am applying(HSMP pre Nov 2006) for ILR in October 2011(I include him). Does this mean that it can be a problem for my husband -only 1 year living together? Who knows?
Thank you
Wat i think that, there should not be any problem for you to get ILR but they might extend 1 yr visa for ur husband to make it for 2 yrs and they migt ask that ur husband has to apply for ILR once he completed 2 yrs...
---but this is my opinion!!!
y dont u give call to HO to confirm that...

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Post by fora » Wed Jun 29, 2011 2:39 pm

I called now to PEO 0870 606 7766.He told me that my husband does not need to wait for 2 years (covered by HSMP JR policy).He will get ILR straight with me irrespective of the length of living together.Hope this info will be useful to other people.

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Post by Son_of_Soil » Wed Jun 29, 2011 2:51 pm

Hello Fora
Its strange , coz i called them yesterday and they told me my wife will have to stay 2 years with me

its was the 5th call i made to HO on the same number in 4 weeks time..and they all told me to wait for years for my wife ILR.

Its creating nothing but load of confusion.
fora wrote:I called now to PEO 0870 606 7766.He told me that my husband does not need to wait for 2 years (covered by HSMP JR policy).He will get ILR straight with me irrespective of the length of living together.Hope this info will be useful to other people.

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Post by fora » Wed Jun 29, 2011 9:21 pm

It concerns only those who apply under HSMP JR(no 2 years for cohabition)

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Post by fora » Wed Jun 29, 2011 9:55 pm

Hi,Son_of_Soil.Are u covered by HSMP JR policy?

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Post by mk357 » Wed Jun 29, 2011 9:58 pm

fora wrote:It concerns only those who apply under HSMP JR(no 2 years for cohabition)
Even for HSMP (JR) it is required, please check the Set(O) form which is applicable to HSMP applicants. But my guess would be it would depend on the caseworker that deals with the case.

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Cohabitation

Post by mbamis99 » Wed Jun 29, 2011 10:00 pm

Could anyone please explian what type of docs to include as evidence of cohabitation?

Does caseworker varify spouse 2 year cohabitation/presence in the UK from the passport entry/exit stamps? I mean spouse could be outside the UK but joint UK docs can still be shown e.g. joint bank statement, joint utiltity bills etc. i came to this point as there is no section in Set(O) which requires to list down spouse's absenses during 2 years cohabitataion period.

Any views on it would be highly appreciated.

Thanks,

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Re: Cohabitation

Post by mk357 » Thu Jun 30, 2011 12:02 am

mbamis99 wrote:Could anyone please explian what type of docs to include as evidence of cohabitation?

Does caseworker varify spouse 2 year cohabitation/presence in the UK from the passport entry/exit stamps? I mean spouse could be outside the UK but joint UK docs can still be shown e.g. joint bank statement, joint utiltity bills etc. i came to this point as there is no section in Set(O) which requires to list down spouse's absenses during 2 years cohabitataion period.

Any views on it would be highly appreciated.

Thanks,
Thats a good question, but I would say cohabitation could only be supported with officials documents if the peson is here so I would say passport stamps would be a must supported byt official documents.

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Post by rajesh_kumar01 » Thu Jun 30, 2011 5:05 am

Son_of_Soil wrote:Hello Fora
Its strange , coz i called them yesterday and they told me my wife will have to stay 2 years with me

its was the 5th call i made to HO on the same number in 4 weeks time..and they all told me to wait for years for my wife ILR.

Its creating nothing but load of confusion.
fora wrote:I called now to PEO 0870 606 7766.He told me that my husband does not need to wait for 2 years (covered by HSMP JR policy).He will get ILR straight with me irrespective of the length of living together.Hope this info will be useful to other people.
Believe me , these caseworkers are not smarter than person selling fries on mcdy. Specially call center one .

If you are covered under HSMP JR. Your dependents status would be same as yours . No need to provide cohabitancy documents for 2 years. My have got ILR in same category and I know atleast 50-60 other who have got ILR and their dependent had spent less than 2 years in UK.

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Re: Cohabitation

Post by rajesh_kumar01 » Thu Jun 30, 2011 5:13 am

mbamis99 wrote:Could anyone please explian what type of docs to include as evidence of cohabitation?

Does caseworker varify spouse 2 year cohabitation/presence in the UK from the passport entry/exit stamps? I mean spouse could be outside the UK but joint UK docs can still be shown e.g. joint bank statement, joint utiltity bills etc. i came to this point as there is no section in Set(O) which requires to list down spouse's absenses during 2 years cohabitataion period.

Any views on it would be highly appreciated.

Thanks,
I don't know what word should be used for your intelligence . Do you think they don't have any system to track your and your dependents movement ? Just order information they hold against you. They have all your details in their system.
I guess think forum is not on how do you do fraud to get ILR . Authority will love to know about these kind of forum .

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Post by rajesh_kumar01 » Thu Jun 30, 2011 5:18 am

mk357 wrote:
fora wrote:It concerns only those who apply under HSMP JR(no 2 years for cohabition)
Even for HSMP (JR) it is required, please check the Set(O) form which is applicable to HSMP applicants. But my guess would be it would depend on the caseworker that deals with the case.
If you don't know better don't give wrong information. Person comes to forum when (s)he can't get clear view from the forum . If you start citing form here then its waste of space and time.

HSMP JR covered applicant does,'t need to proof 2 years cohabitancy.

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Post by Son_of_Soil » Thu Jun 30, 2011 9:09 am

Hello Fora
Yes i am covered by HSMP JR pre november 2006 application.

fora wrote:Hi,Son_of_Soil.Are u covered by HSMP JR policy?

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Post by Son_of_Soil » Thu Jun 30, 2011 9:36 am

Can i request all members not to provide wrong info if they are not sure about the answer. HSMP JR policy document states at the end that dependents will follow the status of main application. Now the pronlem is HO dnt understand the meaning of this statement. It was my 6th call to HO (in 4 weeks) yesterday and i spoke to MRs Brown, she told me my wife will have to spend 2 years even if i am covered by JR.According the them it seems l they look at your recent leave (in my case it TIER1, after i exteneded my HSMP under old 65 point rule) and then look at the guidelines, and in guidelines the follow the TIER1 not HSMP.
i went through throu the Set O form and JR policy document with her,and then she went to her Manager to confirm this, she came back with the same answer that she will have to spend 2 years). when i defended that, she told me she has given me the correct info and if i still want to apply ILR for my wife , it will be at my own risk..

So all the managers and staff are not fully aware of the JR and what it covers. After 6 calls to HO, i am still confused.

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Post by mk357 » Thu Jun 30, 2011 2:06 pm

rajesh_kumar01 wrote:
mk357 wrote:
fora wrote:It concerns only those who apply under HSMP JR(no 2 years for cohabition)
Even for HSMP (JR) it is required, please check the Set(O) form which is applicable to HSMP applicants. But my guess would be it would depend on the caseworker that deals with the case.
If you don't know better don't give wrong information. Person comes to forum when (s)he can't get clear view from the forum . If you start citing form here then its waste of space and time.

HSMP JR covered applicant does,'t need to proof 2 years cohabitancy.
Its right that people come here for information and that is why I referred to SET(O) form. I think you also haven't read it. Let me just state what it says in 10A:
"All applicants must provide the relevant documents specified in 10A. You must also provide the relevant documents specified in 10B to 10V for the category in which you are applying.
Please note that in some cases, we may have to ask for other documents in addition to those specified in this form."
And then in the same Section 10A it says:
"If you have a spouse or civil partner listed in section 2 of this application form who is applying at the same time as you, please provide documentary evidence of cohabitation since you were last granted leave (up to a maximum of two years). Evidence provided should cover the whole period and be in the form of official letters or documents, addressed to yourself and your spouse."

Now I leave it to you to interpret may be my language is not good enough.

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Post by Son_of_Soil » Thu Jun 30, 2011 2:28 pm

Hi Mk357

So according to you even for main applicants under HSMP JR their dependents need to spend 2 years? if yes, then what does the statement given in JR policy documents where it says dependent follows main applicatnt?

Thank
mk357 wrote:
rajesh_kumar01 wrote:
mk357 wrote:
fora wrote:It concerns only those who apply under HSMP JR(no 2 years for cohabition)
Even for HSMP (JR) it is required, please check the Set(O) form which is applicable to HSMP applicants. But my guess would be it would depend on the caseworker that deals with the case.
If you don't know better don't give wrong information. Person comes to forum when (s)he can't get clear view from the forum . If you start citing form here then its waste of space and time.

HSMP JR covered applicant does,'t need to proof 2 years cohabitancy.
Its right that people come here for information and that is why I referred to SET(O) form. I think you also haven't read it. Let me just state what it says in 10A:
"All applicants must provide the relevant documents specified in 10A. You must also provide the relevant documents specified in 10B to 10V for the category in which you are applying.
Please note that in some cases, we may have to ask for other documents in addition to those specified in this form."
And then in the same Section 10A it says:
"If you have a spouse or civil partner listed in section 2 of this application form who is applying at the same time as you, please provide documentary evidence of cohabitation since you were last granted leave (up to a maximum of two years). Evidence provided should cover the whole period and be in the form of official letters or documents, addressed to yourself and your spouse."

Now I leave it to you to interpret may be my language is not good enough.

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Post by mk357 » Thu Jun 30, 2011 2:41 pm

Son_of_Soil wrote:Hi Mk357

So according to you even for main applicants under HSMP JR their dependents need to spend 2 years? if yes, then what does the statement given in JR policy documents where it says dependent follows main applicatnt?

Thank
mk357 wrote:
rajesh_kumar01 wrote:
mk357 wrote:
Even for HSMP (JR) it is required, please check the Set(O) form which is applicable to HSMP applicants. But my guess would be it would depend on the caseworker that deals with the case.
If you don't know better don't give wrong information. Person comes to forum when (s)he can't get clear view from the forum . If you start citing form here then its waste of space and time.

HSMP JR covered applicant does,'t need to proof 2 years cohabitancy.
Its right that people come here for information and that is why I referred to SET(O) form. I think you also haven't read it. Let me just state what it says in 10A:
"All applicants must provide the relevant documents specified in 10A. You must also provide the relevant documents specified in 10B to 10V for the category in which you are applying.
Please note that in some cases, we may have to ask for other documents in addition to those specified in this form."
And then in the same Section 10A it says:
"If you have a spouse or civil partner listed in section 2 of this application form who is applying at the same time as you, please provide documentary evidence of cohabitation since you were last granted leave (up to a maximum of two years). Evidence provided should cover the whole period and be in the form of official letters or documents, addressed to yourself and your spouse."

Now I leave it to you to interpret may be my language is not good enough.
Please don't quote me wrong. Its not according to me but the SET(O) Form which I have reproduced. Dependants also include children and this section does not apply on children but spouse only. Or may be it is in cases where the spouse has not previously been granted a dependant visa. But there is a condition about spouse living together for 2 years on the UK BIA website. I need to find that out. By the way I would also be affected by this as I fall under the HSMP JR.

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