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Correct - it is not retrospective for dependents, so she is not effected.raaji wrote: ↑Sun Mar 04, 2018 7:43 amHi
I got ILR Through Tier 1 G 31/03/2016 still i didnt get british passport.
my wife (PBS Dependant ) got visa 14/02/2014 and extended 31/03/2016 until 31/03/2019.
she will qualify for ILR 5 year route on 31/03/2019.
and she entered in to uk on 14/04/2014.
question is absences ( new rule 1th jan 2018)
14/02/2014 to 14/02/2015 - enterd uk 59 days later
14/02/2015 to 14/02/2016 - 0 days
14/02/2016 to 14/02/2017 - 30 days
14/02/2017 to 14/02/2018 - 9 days
14/02/2018 to 31/03/2019 - she is now in sri lanka after baby born in uk . she went 05/02/2018 and planning to stay 8 months until 30/09/2018.
is this problem for her ILR applying on 31/03/2019 under the new rule in place 11th jan 2018.
i seen if entry visa and extension given before 11/01/2018 and then 180days rule not applying wheather the absences more than 180 days fallen after 11/01/2018.
can you pls advice is this ok ? otherwise she will come back before 180 days.
It is not about when the ILR application is made but about when the dependant visa application was made.raaji wrote: ↑Mon Mar 05, 2018 8:13 amTHANK YOU ....
8 MONTHS ABSENCES AFTER 11TH JAN 2018 NOT A PROBLEM???
11TH JAN 2018 ABSENCES RULE APPLY
- NEW DEPENDANT ENTRY VISA
- EXTENSION DEPENDANT VISA
NOT FOR PEOPLE APPLYING ILR AFTER THIS DATE??
MORE THAN 180 DAY ABSENCES AFTER THIS DATE PROBLEM??
STILL CONFUSED.
This seem to be the same question you asked before, was answered, you clarified and was again answered.raaji wrote: ↑Wed Mar 07, 2018 12:08 pmIn the set(o) form version 01/2018
Please complete this section for all dependants who are applying.
Photocopy this page if necessary.
6.12 When did you (the dependant) first enter the UK? This refers to the date you entered the
UK at the beginning of the period of stay on which this application is based.
D D M M Y Y Y Y
6.13 Does the period of stay on which this application was based include any leave granted
since 11 January 2018? If yes, go to next question. If no, go to section 7.
6.14 Have you had any absences from the UK during any leave granted since 11 January 2018?
Yes No
If yes give the dates you left and returned to the UK and the reason for the absence in the
spaces below. List all absences however short and in date order. If you need more space,
continue on a separate sheet and enclose it with your application.
Date left UK Date returned to UK Reason for absence
so.. if initial and extension pbs dependant visa given before 11/01/2018 then 180days absences not counts for ILR . EVEN morethan 180 days absences after 11/01/2018????
If you answer NO to 6.13 and follow the instructions in the form, you will go to Section 7.raaji wrote: ↑Mon Mar 12, 2018 2:41 pmthank you
so any absences after 11 jan 2018 will be count for ILR (PBS Dependant) who got initial and extension before new rule 11 jan 2018.
"14/02/2014 to 14/02/2015 - enterd uk 59 days later
14/02/2015 to 14/02/2016 - 0 days
14/02/2016 to 14/02/2017 - 30 days
14/02/2017 to 14/02/2018 - 9 days
14/02/2018 to 31/03/2019 - she is now in sri lanka after baby born in uk . she went 05/02/2018 and planning to stay 8 months until 30/09/2018. "
this 8 month leave will affect ilr?
You should post in your own topic or start one rather than positing continuous questions about the set of form in this topic which is only about the rules changes. It is not a general advice topic.raaji wrote: ↑Fri Mar 16, 2018 8:07 amSET(O) FORM...
Section 6 - Immigration history
You are not required to complete this section if you are applying in the bereaved partner
categories.
6.1 When did you (the main applicant) first enter the UK? This refers to the date you entered the
UK at the beginning of the period of stay on which this application is based.
D D M M Y Y Y Y
6.2 Since then have you had any absences from the UK? If yes, give the dates you left and
returned to the UK and the reason for the absence in the spaces below. List all absences
however short and in date order. If you need more space, continue on a separate sheet and
enclose it with your application.
Yes No
Date left UK Date returned to UK Reason for absence
....................................................................
Please complete this section for all dependants who are applying.
Photocopy this page if necessary.
6.12 When did you (the dependant) first enter the UK? This refers to the date you entered the
UK at the beginning of the period of stay on which this application is based.
D D M M Y Y Y Y
6.13 Does the period of stay on which this application was based include any leave granted
since 11 January 2018? If yes, go to next question. If no, go to section 7.
6.14 Have you had any absences from the UK during any leave granted since 11 January 2018?
Yes No
If yes give the dates you left and returned to the UK and the reason for the absence in the
spaces below. List all absences however short and in date order. If you need more space,
continue on a separate sheet and enclose it with your application.
Date left UK Date returned to UK Reason for absence
I got ILR my wife (tier 1g pbs dependant) as a main applicant.
section 6 how can i fill the form
can i leave blan section 6.1 and fill section 6.12??
vinny wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2018 10:32 amBig changes to continuous residence rule for ILR applicants > HC309, in effect from 11 January 2018.
6A.3 wrote:In paragraph 245AAA(a), for:
“(a) “continuous period of 5 years lawfully in the UK” means, subject to paragraphs 245CD, 245GF and 245HF, residence in the United Kingdom for an unbroken period with valid leave, and for these purposes a period shall not be considered to have been broken where:
(i) the applicant has been absent from the UK for a period of 180 days or less in any of the five consecutive 12 month periods preceding the date of the application for leave to remain, except that any absence from the UK for the purpose of assisting with the Ebola crisis which began in West Africa in 2014 shall not count towards the 180 days, if the applicant provides evidence that this was the purpose of the absence(s) and that his Sponsor agreed to the absence(s);”,
substitute:
“(a) References to a “continuous period” “lawfully in the UK” means, subject to paragraph (e), residence in the UK for an unbroken period with valid leave, and for these purposes a period shall be considered unbroken where:
(i) the applicant has not been absent from the UK for more than 180 days during any 12 month period in the continuous period, except that any absence from the UK for the purpose of assisting with a national or international humanitarian or environmental crisis overseas shall not count towards the 180 days, if the applicant provides evidence that this was the purpose of the absence(s) and that their Sponsor, if there was one, agreed to the absence(s) for that purpose;”.Changes to continuous residence rule for ILR applicants wrote:....
The difference is subtle but significant. It will mean that an application for ILR could be refused if at any point over the five years the 180-day limit is exceeded in any 12-month period. Absences are calculated on a rolling basis, instead of in fixed blocks.
To go back to the example above, if the applicant had spent seven months outside of the UK between October 2014 and April 2015, under the current rules their continual residence would not be broken: by applying on 10 January 2018 they could divide the absences across two different 12-month blocks. Under the new rules, the application is likely to be refused as the applicant was absent for over 180 days over a-12 month period.
...
Unlike the high profile changes to the absence criteria for ILR dependants announced at the same time, this new formula for calculating continuous residence will, in effect, be retrospective. Anyone applying for ILR on or after 11 January will be caught by it.Big changes to continuous residence rule for ILR applicants wrote: In the explanatory memorandum, the Home Office refers to this as a “minor change”. Quite the contrary. It will have massive ramifications for anyone who travels frequently out of the UK and has been carefully planning their trips abroad over the last few years to keep within the current rules.
....See also Exceptional cases.National Law Review wrote:The 180 days’ absence from the UK will now be calculated on a 12-month rolling basis (under the current rules absences are calculated in 12-month periods counting back from the date of the ILR application).
Please click on the above link for more information on dependants.
Wait? If you are under Tier 2, the maximum is 6 years (except you earn huge salary, which has no time limit). So if you have two over 180 days leave in any two 12-months periods, you screwed....marcnath wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2018 1:00 pmYes, subtle but not minor for someone effected.
Previously, if you had more than 6 months in a 12 month period, you can plan when to apply for ILR to ensure that the period gets split over two years. Now you can't, you will have to wait longer before you apply.
narsing_ch wrote: ↑Mon Apr 02, 2018 5:13 pmHello,
I have a query please and apologies if this has been answered above(was unable to find any)
My wife is on ILR Dependent Visa on me currently and her visa expires in October 2020 when she will be eligible for ILR herself.
I have few queries please on the below statement
"No more than 180 days’ absences are allowed in a consecutive 12 month period."
1)My wife has left UK on 20th February 2018. Does this mean that she need to return back no later than 180 days?
What if she returns 20th July 2018 which would accumulate about 150 days and leave UK for another leave, does this mean she cannot take leave of more than 30 days?
2) Also how does consecutive 12 months period work?
In above example where she has taken her 1st leave on 20th Feb 2018 on bulk holidays, when does the next 12 month period start, would this be 20th Feb 2019?
3) 180 rule, does this apply to ILR Dependent visas as well?
4) She is on leave because of Maternity leave and planning to overstay due to medical issues for mother and baby, would this be acceptable for overstaying for more than 180 days?
Best
Narsing
If your wife is on a dependent visa and it was issued BEFORE 11th January 2018, then she is NOT subject to the 180 days absence. It has nothing to do with 'calendar years' though.Vinsanchez0115 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 1:30 pmHi,
Just to have a clarification on the said changes. My wife who is tier 2 general visa,currently on her maternity leave and we decided to come home to the philippines to spend New year. We left December 28, 2017 and we agreed that she can stay for another 5mos which is till May 25, 2018. Is there something to be worry about if we left 2017 and comes back 2018 which is new calendar years? Or shall I rebooked them soon just to be safe? Thank you very much.
Regards
Arvin
