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ILR Fees 2017-2018

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Re: ILR Fees 2017-2018

Post by sm12 » Tue Apr 04, 2017 4:56 am

Thank you for sharing the announcement here, Vinny. Surprising that they gave absolutely no notice like they used to.

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Re: ILR Fees 2017-2018

Post by paradoxical » Tue Apr 04, 2017 8:18 am

Thanks Vinny.

So the new ILR fee has been increased from £1875 to £2297
And if someone wants to apply in person, then I believe it is an extra (£490 + £100) £590 (Correct me if I am wrong on this part, I have added the entries from Table 17 (17.1.2 and 17.2.1)).
This means that the total cost of an ILR application in person will now be:
£2297 + £590 = £2887

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Re: ILR Fees 2017-2018

Post by RRSB2012 » Tue Apr 04, 2017 8:35 am

Sorry if this is the wrong place for this comment.....

Am I reading incorrectly or is it correct that fee for naturalisation had been reduced from £1236 to £1202 ........ seems like I am reading something wrong.

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Re: ILR Fees 2017-2018

Post by secret.simon » Tue Apr 04, 2017 9:58 am

paradoxical wrote:So the new ILR fee has been increased from £1875 to £2297
Another way of looking at it is that ILR fees have more than doubled in three years, from £1093 on 6th April 2014 to £2297 on 6th April 2017, an increase of about 110%.

The rate of increase in ILR fees
2012 - £991
2013 - £1051
2014 - £1093
2015 - £1500
2016 - £1875
2017 - £2297
sm12 wrote:Surprising that they gave absolutely no notice like they used to.
secret.simon wrote:I believe that I was wrong earlier when I advised that there is a 40 day notice period. The Immigration Act 2014 got rid of any requirements subjecting the fees orders and regulations to Parliamentary scrutiny and hence also of the 40 days notice to Parliament requirement.

However, the government has made an Order that lay out the maximum fees for specific applications. But from time to time, it can modify those fees by Regulations (without notice) as long as they are below the maximum amount specified in the Order.

So, it is not impossible that the fees could be increased by Regulations issued on 5th April itself.
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Re: ILR Fees 2017-2018

Post by mql1985 » Tue Apr 04, 2017 10:30 am

Hi, I think I read somewhere if you book an appointment for in-person application, you pay the current fee (2016 level, £2375)? Is it true?

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Re: ILR Fees 2017-2018

Post by chenzz » Tue Apr 04, 2017 2:52 pm

chenzz wrote:
paradoxical wrote:Following that link, here is the relevant part:

As I mentioned, the immigration fees regulations, which are due to be laid in Parliament in mid-March and will come into force in April, will remain completely within the parameters agreed by Parliament and in line with the impact assessment published with the 2016 order.


This is from https://hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2 ... )Order2017

So expect a fee rise soon...I wish they get a bit easy on ILRs...it is crazy amount now!

I think it will be £2250.00 this year, based on the calculation as

2016-17 1875
2017-18 1875*1.2=2250
2018-19 2250*1.2=2700
2019-20 2700*1.2=3240

proposed maximum in 2019-2020 is £3250

Apparently I underestimated the cruelty of UKBA.
Totally my fault.

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Re: ILR Fees 2017-2018

Post by Casa » Tue Apr 04, 2017 2:55 pm

chenzz wrote:
chenzz wrote:
paradoxical wrote:Following that link, here is the relevant part:

As I mentioned, the immigration fees regulations, which are due to be laid in Parliament in mid-March and will come into force in April, will remain completely within the parameters agreed by Parliament and in line with the impact assessment published with the 2016 order.


This is from https://hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2 ... )Order2017

So expect a fee rise soon...I wish they get a bit easy on ILRs...it is crazy amount now!

I think it will be £2250.00 this year, based on the calculation as

2016-17 1875
2017-18 1875*1.2=2250
2018-19 2250*1.2=2700
2019-20 2700*1.2=3240

proposed maximum in 2019-2020 is £3250

Apparently I underestimated the cruelty of UKBA.
Totally my fault.
No point in blaming the UKBA. They were disbanded in March 2013 due to being 'unfit for purpose' and replaced by the UKVI :idea:
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Re: ILR Fees 2017-2018

Post by chenzz » Tue Apr 04, 2017 2:57 pm

Casa wrote:
chenzz wrote:
chenzz wrote:
paradoxical wrote:Following that link, here is the relevant part:

As I mentioned, the immigration fees regulations, which are due to be laid in Parliament in mid-March and will come into force in April, will remain completely within the parameters agreed by Parliament and in line with the impact assessment published with the 2016 order.


This is from https://hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2 ... )Order2017

So expect a fee rise soon...I wish they get a bit easy on ILRs...it is crazy amount now!

I think it will be £2250.00 this year, based on the calculation as

2016-17 1875
2017-18 1875*1.2=2250
2018-19 2250*1.2=2700
2019-20 2700*1.2=3240

proposed maximum in 2019-2020 is £3250

Apparently I underestimated the cruelty of UKBA.
Totally my fault.
No point in blaming the UKBA. They were disbanded in March 2013 due to being 'unfit for purpose' and replaced by the UKVI :idea:

UKBA, UKVI, poteito, potato
whatever
same evil!

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Re: ILR Fees 2017-2018

Post by secret.simon » Tue Apr 04, 2017 2:59 pm

chenzz wrote:I think it will be £2250.00 this year, based on the calculation as

2016-17 1875
2017-18 1875*1.2=2250
2018-19 2250*1.2=2700
2019-20 2700*1.2=3240
The actual fees were £2297. You were almost spot-on!!! At least your calculations give us a rule-of-thumb to guess at the potential ILR fees in the coming few years.
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Re: ILR Fees 2017-2018

Post by chenzz » Tue Apr 04, 2017 3:02 pm

secret.simon wrote:
chenzz wrote:I think it will be £2250.00 this year, based on the calculation as

2016-17 1875
2017-18 1875*1.2=2250
2018-19 2250*1.2=2700
2019-20 2700*1.2=3240
The actual fees were £2297. You were almost spot-on!!! At least your calculations give us a rule-of-thumb to guess at the potential ILR fees in the coming few years.

LOL. I guess deep down, I wished I was wrong. :(

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Re: ILR Fees 2017-2018

Post by paradoxical » Tue Apr 04, 2017 3:10 pm

UKBA, UKVI, poteito, potato
whatever
same evil!
Poteito potato...same thoughts..
there has been restructuring and renaming exercises but essentially it is the same evil body in the end :)
And your calculations were quite close..

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Re: ILR Fees 2017-2018

Post by WRS » Tue Apr 04, 2017 3:37 pm

Handy Table below.

On a side note Nationality Fee has been reduced from £1236 to £1202, but £80 ceremony fee has now been included in the application fee making it £1282.

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... pr2017.pdf

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Re: ILR Fees 2017-2018

Post by CR001 » Tue Apr 04, 2017 3:40 pm

WRS wrote:Handy Table below.

On a side note Nationality Fee has been reduced from £1236 to £1202, but £80 ceremony fee has now been included in the application fee making it £1282.

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... pr2017.pdf
Ceremony fee has always been a separate listed amount. So still an increase and not a decrease. £1236 includes the ceremony fee.
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Re: ILR Fees 2017-2018

Post by secret.simon » Tue Apr 04, 2017 3:44 pm

paradoxical wrote:Poteito potato...same thoughts..
I know it sounds like the mods are making a fuss about nothing, but it helps if people are precise when posting on public forums.

For instance, on these forums, people occasionally call ILR "PR", not realising that both of them are under different rules and have slightly different effects. Similarly, "applying for a British passport" is not the same as applying for naturalisation.

Calling concepts and bodies by their correct name aids in allowing others to provide the correct advice.
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Re: ILR Fees 2017-2018

Post by Casa » Tue Apr 04, 2017 3:52 pm

secret.simon wrote:
paradoxical wrote:Poteito potato...same thoughts..
I know it sounds like the mods are making a fuss about nothing, but it helps if people are precise when posting on public forums.

For instance, on these forums, people occasionally call ILR "PR", not realising that both of them are under different rules and have slightly different effects. Similarly, "applying for a British passport" is not the same as applying for naturalisation.

Calling concepts and bodies by their correct name aids in allowing others to provide the correct advice.
I generally advice members not to follow advice on the internet posted under UKBA, as this is likely to be well out-of-date. :idea:
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Re: ILR Fees 2017-2018

Post by secret.simon » Tue Apr 04, 2017 4:10 pm

Casa wrote:I generally advice members not to follow advice on the internet posted under UKBA, as this is likely to be well out-of-date.
Well-reasoned.
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Re: ILR Fees 2017-2018

Post by Mrchaany » Tue Apr 04, 2017 5:06 pm

Indefinite leave to remain £1,875 £2,297 £422


here we come, uk now want to use immigration is tool to generate funds for their respected department.

i am not opposed that uKVI will increase fee but £422 is killing.

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Re: ILR Fees 2017-2018

Post by secret.simon » Tue Apr 04, 2017 5:23 pm

Business2business wrote:i am not opposed that uKVI will increase fee but £422 is killing.
We *know* that the ILR fees will be going up to £3240 by April 2019. We *know* the direction of travel. We can guess the rate of increase per year.
chenzz wrote: I think it will be £2250.00 this year, based on the calculation as

2016-17 1875
2017-18 1875*1.2=2250
2018-19 2250*1.2=2700
2019-20 2700*1.2=3240
I think it would be best for us to be realistic and plan accordingly.
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Re: ILR Fees 2017-2018

Post by paradoxical » Tue Apr 04, 2017 7:18 pm

secret.simon wrote:Calling concepts and bodies by their correct name aids in allowing others to provide the correct advice.
Casa wrote:I generally advice members not to follow advice on the internet posted under UKBA, as this is likely to be well out-of-date
Thanks for pointing this out, very valid point
secret.simon wrote:Another way of looking at it is that ILR fees have more than doubled in three years, from £1093 on 6th April 2014 to £2297 on 6th April 2017, an increase of about 110%.
Business2business wrote:here we come, uk now want to use immigration is tool to generate funds for their respected department.
i am not opposed that uKVI will increase fee but £422 is killing.
The fee increase is brutal! In this world, many people/systems/organisations would act in a manner which can best be described as exploitation. A simple model to explain that would be: You have a subject who is desperate for a service/product and doesn't have alternative viable options, an actor who can provide the required service/product and also understands the desperation of the subject. The actor therefore has the luxury to either exploit this situation and charge exorbitant fees or not exploit and stay within reason (where within reason would be in line to making reasonable profits,not 5 or 6 times the cost! ). This model can explain lots of behaviours around the world and I will leave that to the reader's imagination to fit this model to various situations.

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Re: ILR Fees 2017-2018

Post by Zimba » Tue Apr 04, 2017 7:32 pm

So the cost of a ILR application is increasing exponentially but we still have to wait 6 months or more to hear back for a decision, particularly for a route like Tier 1E that has no premium option :x
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