- FAQ
- Login
- Register
- Call Workpermit.com for a paid service +44 (0)344-991-9222
ESC
Welcome to immigrationboards.com!
Moderators: Casa, archigabe, CR001, push, JAJ, ca.funke, Amber, zimba, vinny, Obie, EUsmileWEallsmile, batleykhan, meself2, geriatrix, John, ChetanOjha
Another way of looking at it is that ILR fees have more than doubled in three years, from £1093 on 6th April 2014 to £2297 on 6th April 2017, an increase of about 110%.paradoxical wrote:So the new ILR fee has been increased from £1875 to £2297
sm12 wrote:Surprising that they gave absolutely no notice like they used to.
secret.simon wrote:I believe that I was wrong earlier when I advised that there is a 40 day notice period. The Immigration Act 2014 got rid of any requirements subjecting the fees orders and regulations to Parliamentary scrutiny and hence also of the 40 days notice to Parliament requirement.
However, the government has made an Order that lay out the maximum fees for specific applications. But from time to time, it can modify those fees by Regulations (without notice) as long as they are below the maximum amount specified in the Order.
So, it is not impossible that the fees could be increased by Regulations issued on 5th April itself.
chenzz wrote:paradoxical wrote:Following that link, here is the relevant part:
As I mentioned, the immigration fees regulations, which are due to be laid in Parliament in mid-March and will come into force in April, will remain completely within the parameters agreed by Parliament and in line with the impact assessment published with the 2016 order.
This is from https://hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2 ... )Order2017
So expect a fee rise soon...I wish they get a bit easy on ILRs...it is crazy amount now!
I think it will be £2250.00 this year, based on the calculation as
2016-17 1875
2017-18 1875*1.2=2250
2018-19 2250*1.2=2700
2019-20 2700*1.2=3240
proposed maximum in 2019-2020 is £3250
No point in blaming the UKBA. They were disbanded in March 2013 due to being 'unfit for purpose' and replaced by the UKVIchenzz wrote:chenzz wrote:paradoxical wrote:Following that link, here is the relevant part:
As I mentioned, the immigration fees regulations, which are due to be laid in Parliament in mid-March and will come into force in April, will remain completely within the parameters agreed by Parliament and in line with the impact assessment published with the 2016 order.
This is from https://hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2 ... )Order2017
So expect a fee rise soon...I wish they get a bit easy on ILRs...it is crazy amount now!
I think it will be £2250.00 this year, based on the calculation as
2016-17 1875
2017-18 1875*1.2=2250
2018-19 2250*1.2=2700
2019-20 2700*1.2=3240
proposed maximum in 2019-2020 is £3250
Apparently I underestimated the cruelty of UKBA.
Totally my fault.
Casa wrote:No point in blaming the UKBA. They were disbanded in March 2013 due to being 'unfit for purpose' and replaced by the UKVIchenzz wrote:chenzz wrote:paradoxical wrote:Following that link, here is the relevant part:
As I mentioned, the immigration fees regulations, which are due to be laid in Parliament in mid-March and will come into force in April, will remain completely within the parameters agreed by Parliament and in line with the impact assessment published with the 2016 order.
This is from https://hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2 ... )Order2017
So expect a fee rise soon...I wish they get a bit easy on ILRs...it is crazy amount now!
I think it will be £2250.00 this year, based on the calculation as
2016-17 1875
2017-18 1875*1.2=2250
2018-19 2250*1.2=2700
2019-20 2700*1.2=3240
proposed maximum in 2019-2020 is £3250
Apparently I underestimated the cruelty of UKBA.
Totally my fault.
The actual fees were £2297. You were almost spot-on!!! At least your calculations give us a rule-of-thumb to guess at the potential ILR fees in the coming few years.chenzz wrote:I think it will be £2250.00 this year, based on the calculation as
2016-17 1875
2017-18 1875*1.2=2250
2018-19 2250*1.2=2700
2019-20 2700*1.2=3240
secret.simon wrote:The actual fees were £2297. You were almost spot-on!!! At least your calculations give us a rule-of-thumb to guess at the potential ILR fees in the coming few years.chenzz wrote:I think it will be £2250.00 this year, based on the calculation as
2016-17 1875
2017-18 1875*1.2=2250
2018-19 2250*1.2=2700
2019-20 2700*1.2=3240
Poteito potato...same thoughts..UKBA, UKVI, poteito, potato
whatever
same evil!
Ceremony fee has always been a separate listed amount. So still an increase and not a decrease. £1236 includes the ceremony fee.WRS wrote:Handy Table below.
On a side note Nationality Fee has been reduced from £1236 to £1202, but £80 ceremony fee has now been included in the application fee making it £1282.
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... pr2017.pdf
I know it sounds like the mods are making a fuss about nothing, but it helps if people are precise when posting on public forums.paradoxical wrote:Poteito potato...same thoughts..
I generally advice members not to follow advice on the internet posted under UKBA, as this is likely to be well out-of-date.secret.simon wrote:I know it sounds like the mods are making a fuss about nothing, but it helps if people are precise when posting on public forums.paradoxical wrote:Poteito potato...same thoughts..
For instance, on these forums, people occasionally call ILR "PR", not realising that both of them are under different rules and have slightly different effects. Similarly, "applying for a British passport" is not the same as applying for naturalisation.
Calling concepts and bodies by their correct name aids in allowing others to provide the correct advice.
Well-reasoned.Casa wrote:I generally advice members not to follow advice on the internet posted under UKBA, as this is likely to be well out-of-date.
We *know* that the ILR fees will be going up to £3240 by April 2019. We *know* the direction of travel. We can guess the rate of increase per year.Business2business wrote:i am not opposed that uKVI will increase fee but £422 is killing.
I think it would be best for us to be realistic and plan accordingly.chenzz wrote: I think it will be £2250.00 this year, based on the calculation as
2016-17 1875
2017-18 1875*1.2=2250
2018-19 2250*1.2=2700
2019-20 2700*1.2=3240
secret.simon wrote:Calling concepts and bodies by their correct name aids in allowing others to provide the correct advice.
Thanks for pointing this out, very valid pointCasa wrote:I generally advice members not to follow advice on the internet posted under UKBA, as this is likely to be well out-of-date
secret.simon wrote:Another way of looking at it is that ILR fees have more than doubled in three years, from £1093 on 6th April 2014 to £2297 on 6th April 2017, an increase of about 110%.
The fee increase is brutal! In this world, many people/systems/organisations would act in a manner which can best be described as exploitation. A simple model to explain that would be: You have a subject who is desperate for a service/product and doesn't have alternative viable options, an actor who can provide the required service/product and also understands the desperation of the subject. The actor therefore has the luxury to either exploit this situation and charge exorbitant fees or not exploit and stay within reason (where within reason would be in line to making reasonable profits,not 5 or 6 times the cost! ). This model can explain lots of behaviours around the world and I will leave that to the reader's imagination to fit this model to various situations.Business2business wrote:here we come, uk now want to use immigration is tool to generate funds for their respected department.
i am not opposed that uKVI will increase fee but £422 is killing.
This would explain a lot. In a normal situation, one would keep the price of a product/service fixed or reasonable and increase the number of sales in order to boost income. In an exploitative model such as this one, they want to reduce the number of sales (number of ILRs granted), but still want to make as much profit as possible hence the exponential growth of the ILR fee..Ali272 wrote:ILR grants are down more than 50% since 2012. So they need to double the fees, just to make the same amount.
And the source of your statement above???Ali272 wrote:ILR grants are down more than 50% since 2012. So they need to double the fees, just to make the same amount.
HO know there is 'demand' for their service/visas and as long as there is demand and people will pay (regardless of how everyone moans), they will increase the fees because they know people will pay to come here or stay.paradoxical wrote:This would explain a lot. In a normal situation, one would keep the price of a product/service fixed or reasonable and increase the number of sales in order to boost income. In an exploitative model such as this one, they want to reduce the number of sales (number of ILRs granted), but still want to make as much profit as possible hence the exponential growth of the ILR fee..
I agree with you and this scenario can very perfectly be explained by an exploitative model that I mentioned earlier. And that model can also perfectly explain a lot of other evil things that happen around the globe.CR001 wrote:HO know there is 'demand' for their service/visas and as long as there is demand and people will pay (regardless of how everyone moans), they will increase the fees because they know people will pay to come here or stay.
Does this take into account refusals? They keep the fees following refusals too. Moreover, if people who are refused reapply, then this effectively doubles the fees.Ali272 wrote:ILR grants are down more than 50% since 2012. So they need to double the fees, just to make the same amount.