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Re: ilr timeline

Post by oluwa112 » Sun Nov 22, 2009 4:05 pm

rajj wrote:applied july 10th
for ilr under long residence category
home office 10 days ago said application being considered.
last week they said application not completed yet.
does anyone know the difference between these two statements. does it mean that a decision is due soon.

thanks
I was just about to update my status! Applied 10th August SET 0 10 years Lawful Residence. ( i applied exactly a month after you)

I will be waiting 15 weeks on Monday 23rd November. So I called in on Friday as 14wks has elapsed.
The agent told me that the status of my Application was Not Completed. I was so ill and exhausted I really could didnt have the strength to think and get out the question I should have really asked, what does that mean. From reading in the forum, it appear people get the response Being considered or still in progress. When I called I was exepecting one of the Above responses. But to my surprise i was told Application Not Completed!!

Now I am thinking to call on Monday and find out what that means cos i really dont want to get myself too excited with regards to a decision being made!!
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Post by hetch16 » Sun Nov 22, 2009 4:28 pm

no long absence ,straight forward 5 years wp application with the same company ?!!!!

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Post by rathp » Mon Nov 23, 2009 1:11 am

WP + Tier 1 - 5 years, no dependants

Application Sent: Sept 11 09
Card charged: Sept 15 09
Passport with ILR received: 21 Nov 09

The ILR stamp has a date of 21 Oct 09, so assume they were holding on to the passport for some reason.

Rath

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Post by goody09 » Mon Nov 23, 2009 12:47 pm

ILR timeline

Applied 29th Sep

Recieved 30th sep

payment 6th Oct

Aknow 8th oct

Still waiting, hope this week some good news will come

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Post by oluwa112 » Mon Nov 23, 2009 1:07 pm

rathp wrote:WP + Tier 1 - 5 years, no dependants

Application Sent: Sept 11 09
Card charged: Sept 15 09
Passport with ILR received: 21 Nov 09

The ILR stamp has a date of 21 Oct 09, so assume they were holding on to the passport for some reason.

Rath
How odd that they held your passport an additional months, did they ever as u for more information
At any stage in between?

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Re: ilr timeline

Post by oluwa112 » Mon Nov 23, 2009 2:54 pm

oluwa112 wrote:
rajj wrote:applied july 10th
for ilr under long residence category
home office 10 days ago said application being considered.
last week they said application not completed yet.
does anyone know the difference between these two statements. does it mean that a decision is due soon.

thanks
I was just about to update my status! Applied 10th August SET 0 10 years Lawful Residence. ( i applied exactly a month after you)

I will be waiting 15 weeks on Monday 23rd November. So I called in on Friday as 14wks has elapsed.
The agent told me that the status of my Application was Not Completed. I was so ill and exhausted I really could didnt have the strength to think and get out the question I should have really asked, what does that mean. From reading in the forum, it appear people get the response Being considered or still in progress. When I called I was exepecting one of the Above responses. But to my surprise i was told Application Not Completed!!

Now I am thinking to call on Monday and find out what that means cos i really dont want to get myself too excited with regards to a decision being made!!

So i decided to call back again today to clarify NOT COMPLETED YET. Fortunately the call only lasted 9.45mins including hold and conversation *cos i have been on hold 45mins of a 50min call, but that is another story*

Anyways I called again and spoke to somebody else and again the term Not completed yet was used. This time I asked what was meant by that but she didnt give me a direct answer she just told me that my Application is in process and they have received letters from me, so right now my application is not completed yet and i should just seat and wait for UKBA to contact me.

I asked again does it mean that i have been given a case worker she, replied with the above answer again.

So really I am stuck. I dont know if this is a new response rather than the standard in process or being considered response they had before. Or it really does mean that they are close to making a decision hence the Term not Completed yet!! *SIGH*

I guess I will just have to wait and see, give it another 2wks or something before calling again! But if anyone here knows what it means and can shed some light please do get us out of the dark... thank you!

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Post by haha » Mon Nov 23, 2009 4:04 pm

Oluwa112, sorry to know you were ill. I hope you are fully recovered now.
I totally understand how you feel. What they told you is the standard answer which contains no information. If you call 10 times, you will get the same answer for 10 times.

Glad to know Rajj, who stands in the same shoes as us. I think Rajj, you and I are the 3 ppl applied ILR based on 10yrs long residence around the same time slot.

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Post by rathp » Mon Nov 23, 2009 6:58 pm

oluwa112 wrote:
rathp wrote:WP + Tier 1 - 5 years, no dependants

Application Sent: Sept 11 09
Card charged: Sept 15 09
Passport with ILR received: 21 Nov 09

The ILR stamp has a date of 21 Oct 09, so assume they were holding on to the passport for some reason.

Rath
How odd that they held your passport an additional months, did they ever as u for more information
At any stage in between?
yes rather odd going by the dates posted here, but there was no request for more information at any stage.

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Post by oluwa112 » Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:52 am

@ haha.. Thank You, I am slightly improved now.

You are right that is seems that there are only 3 of us applying the 10yr long residence route, the other long resisdece discussions are those that have overstayed and applying the 14yrs + route and the other Workpermit/HSMP.

Its just such as same that they treat us with the same yard stick as the 14+ yrs route (Nothing against the 14yr route applicants though). Those of US that do the 10yr route only need to Submit our Passports over the 10yr period, Life in the UK Test, Application Form, Passport Photographs and Application Fee. 10 yrs Prior to that we successfully Met all the Immigration Criteria, it really should not take them his much time to decide our cases at all.

As for the Not Completed Yet response from when i called UKBA, I never heard it before till I called and Rajj in the same situation as us posted his feeback. I only ever read and Hear In progress and Being considered. Even when you posted the Feedback of your call, you didnt use the exact same phrase. And when Rajj called 2wks before they told him that his application was being considered.

Maybe its me being slightly optimistic (as well as trying to maintain my sanity), but I just cant help but feel the the response Not Completed Yet is some kind of Progression and us getting closer to a decision from UKBA.

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the way HO works

Post by taylondon » Tue Nov 24, 2009 1:34 pm

The way HO works:
1) all applications are received in a center room and got diverted to initial consideration unit.
2) If the caseworker at ICU makes the decision at this stage than you get your documants back within 2 weeks normally
3) if the caseworker cannot make the decision at this stage he/she forward the case to further consideration unit or the case management unit.
4) now the main waiting period starts at this point. Here at the FCU or CMU the junior case worker first looks at the case and he/she consults his/her possible decision with the senior caseworker or the team leader. Especially if the decision is refusal then they have to consult it to their team leader before post it back to applicant.
5) the case might wait in a queue on the team leader desk for a while
6) after the decision is made and consulted with the team leader the case goes to implemented queue in the post room where the paperwork is getting ready for post
7) a case might also wait in the post room for a while, that is why we see the visa date 1 month before the date we received the passport. because it got stucked in a queue in the post room.

when we call the home office the telephone agents are instructed to say one of the 3 things if we enquiry about the progress of our application:
1) the case is still not completed or still in process ( it might be anywhere between 1 to 5 above)
2) the case is in the queue waiting to be seen ( it might be anywhere between 1 to 5 above)
3) we have posted to you something this date ( the decision is made but they do not tell u the decision on the phone)

the telephone agents do not say antyhing else apart from this 3 template sentence, they keep repeat them like robots lol, the telephone enquiry is just wasting the time unless u are calling them to ask for your passport to be sent back

u might however wish to contact your MP and ask him/her to contact HO

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timeline

Post by taylondon » Tue Nov 24, 2009 3:05 pm

from this court decision:
http://www.ait.gov.uk/Public/Unreported/IA015102009.doc

we can see that:
the morroccon guy applied for ILR on the basis of 10 years long residence
Applied: 22 August 2008
Refused: 6 January 2009
Appealed heart on: 28 September 2009
Appealed allowed: 5 October 2009

It took HO approximately 5 months before reached the refusal decision.

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Re: timeline

Post by oluwa112 » Tue Nov 24, 2009 3:19 pm

taylondon wrote:from this court decision:
http://www.ait.gov.uk/Public/Unreported/IA015102009.doc

we can see that:
the morroccon guy applied for ILR on the basis of 10 years long residence
Applied: 22 August 2008
Refused: 6 January 2009
Appealed heart on: 28 September 2009
Appealed allowed: 5 October 2009

It took HO approximately 5 months before reached the refusal decision.
Oh wow!

that is just absolute Cruelty!! 5months??? The most straight forward of all the applications and they just leave us to hand dry! That is 20 wks. Going by that estimate I have another 5wk of hell to go thru! *SIGHS* Guess I will be home alone this Christmas then.... My Family have already booked to go away and I really didnt think it wld take this long for them to Process the application and make a decision

I think a User called Paulsomething had to wait 19wks for a decission too, but he was SET M


By the way Thanx for put that up.... Those of us applying the Long residence route have really hadnt had much of a guide to go by. Though its looking like a long wait, I guess it is a guide still. 20wks Just falls within the 6 months Target... *SIGHS*
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Post by goody09 » Tue Nov 24, 2009 3:45 pm

how about straightforward WP 5 years application and swill continue working with the same University for another extra year, all the holidays outside Uk in total are 3,4 month , now it is 8 weeks and no reply, hope will hear some good news soon

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Re: ilr timeline

Post by oluwa112 » Tue Nov 24, 2009 3:57 pm

rajj wrote:applied july 10th
for ilr under long residence category
home office 10 days ago said application being considered.
last week they said application not completed yet.
does anyone know the difference between these two statements. does it mean that a decision is due soon.

thanks
Hey Rajj, reading Taylondon's post looks like you might be a step closer to ending your misery. 20wks was how long it took them to make a decision. From your date you might hopefully hear back soon cos you are already in week 20, and 20 is much closer to 24wks, which is their target. But i am hoping this is not the case about waiting the full hog of 24wks!

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Post by oluwa112 » Tue Nov 24, 2009 4:03 pm

So It looks like this for ILR based on 10yrs Continuous Residence:

Rajj - 10th July 2009
Haha - 25 July 2009
Oluwa112 - 10 August 2009
Taylondon - 11th September

We are more or less 2wks apart with regards to application, So hopefully if say Rajj gets 1st we should hopefully use that as a Timeline to hear back from UKBA. But if either of us 3 Haha or oluwa112 or Taylondon, well that is a spanner in the works and UKBA plyaing games with us! lol * i am laffing but really I am crying* lol
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waiting

Post by taylondon » Tue Nov 24, 2009 4:07 pm

Oluwa please do not forget that 24 weeks is not quarante. It is a target however there is still %5 of all 10 years applications were processed more than 6 months last year.

I hope we all get the positive decision as soon as possible

Mine has been 10.5 weeks now. I posted on the 11th of September, the money was debited on the 14th of September and I received the acknowledgment within the same week

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Post by oluwa112 » Tue Nov 24, 2009 4:14 pm

@ Taylondon... Thanx for your response.

Didnt realise that you are also waiting on the 10yr Long Residence Decision. ( I have updated u on the list... LoL)

I know the 6months is not set in stone, will all the darkness, I wld just like to hold on to the Torch of light *not quite sunshine bright* but I am trynna stay positive and that helps. I have passed the 4wks, 14wks, and the next is 6 months, though they keep moving the Goal post. So far at least its a Goal post that can be seen.

Heaven Forbid that the 6months Target is not met, I will deal with not having a Goal post at that time! For now I will keep my sanity... lol

But I will say your post really shed some light! Not many of us 10yrs applicatnts in the Forum, so not much to work with!

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Post by oluwa112 » Tue Nov 24, 2009 4:14 pm

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ilr

Post by rajj » Tue Nov 24, 2009 7:51 pm

still havent heard anything. didnt bother calling the home office again as i keep getting the same message.
last called them last week.

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ilr long residence

Post by rajj » Tue Nov 24, 2009 10:17 pm

i think the statements mean different things.i think that because, when i first called them 4 weeks ago, they told me that my application has not been considered yet.
then 3 weeks ago they said that my application is being considered. since last week they are saying that it is not completed yet.
however there is one possibility. it is that after a certain period has elapsed since the application the standard answer changes as they may not want us to panic if they say it hasnt been processed yet.
its all guess work isnt it. who knows what the truth is.

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Post by haha » Wed Nov 25, 2009 10:31 am

Hi All (especially to Oluwa112 and Rajj and taylondon),

I received my passports this morning and I saw the ILR visa on my passport which was issued 19-Nov-09. I didn't have time to read the paper work in the package (Hopefully everything is okay) this morning. I will do tonight and try to give you a proper update tomorrow.

What I found strange is: the ILR was issued on 19Nov09 however when I called the UKBA on 20Nov09 the answer was still "hasn't been decided".

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Post by goody09 » Wed Nov 25, 2009 10:44 am

Hi Haha

Could you please let me know what was your timelines?

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Post by oluwa112 » Wed Nov 25, 2009 11:40 am

oh Wow!! Congratulations Haha! LoL

I guess there goes my Order Theory *each case is individual* ! I am so pleased for you though.


After 17.5 long weeks you can now move on to the next stage with worrying about immigration rules as much till you naturalise *if you do decide to do so*.

Its been 15.5wks for me, I guess i can move for now i can move my Goal post slightly Forward another 2wks :-).

Please when u get the chance, can you let where ur ILR was issued? I know mine for a Fact is being processed in Liverpool as that is where i was told to send any additional information to when i called UKBA for an update.

Congratulations once again.

So the 10 yr Long Residence ILR now looks like this.

Rajj - Applied 10th July - still waiting
Haha - Applied 24th July. ILR Issued 19 Nov, Passport Received 25th Nov... *Misery Over :-)*
Sheng - Applied 5th August - Still waiting
Oluwa112 - Applied 10th August - Still waiting
Croydon - Applied 17th August - Still waiting
CLS - Applied 26th August - still waiting
Taylondon - 11 Sept - Still waiting

So based on that Morrocan's Appeal and Haha's Timeline, it appears the Average is about 18.75wks (so about 19wks).
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Post by Sheng » Wed Nov 25, 2009 2:41 pm

I posted my application Set (o) under 10 years long residence on 5th August and now 16 weeks later am still waiting...

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Post by oluwa112 » Wed Nov 25, 2009 2:48 pm

Sheng wrote:I posted my application Set (o) under 10 years long residence on 5th August and now 16 weeks later am still waiting...
Hi Sheng! I guess I will update you on the List too. There is not many of us as you can see. Seems like we applied really closely us on the Long residence Route.

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