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ILR submission without pay slips ?

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Re: ILR submission without pay slips ?

Post by Malik44 » Mon Apr 25, 2016 7:14 pm

Fraud ? Where is fraud op work for that company and his company paying his salary on his bank and he also has employment contract. It would be fraud if op don't work for that company and make false payslips that is the definition of fraud .

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Re: ILR submission without pay slips ?

Post by Malik44 » Mon Apr 25, 2016 7:17 pm

If one go into bank for getting second bank statement is that would be considered fraud?

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Re: ILR submission without pay slips ?

Post by Wanderer » Mon Apr 25, 2016 7:19 pm

Malik44 wrote:If one go into bank for getting second bank statement is that would be considered fraud?
Not the same thing at all. It would be if I printed my own version on my HP Inkjet. Geddit? Fraud. But not an official copy from the bank. Geddit? Not fraud.
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Re: ILR submission without pay slips ?

Post by geriatrix » Mon Apr 25, 2016 7:19 pm

Looks like you don't even understand what you are yourself writing!!
Explain to us all ignorant souls here what you mean by the statement highlighted in blue below:
Malik44 wrote:OP just need to considered these points
FIRST STEP : He should try to get his all payslips and p-60 from employer if employer refused to give him payslips and p-60 he should seek advice from accountant.
he has already contract of employment and Net Amount in his bank account and PAYE reference on 2014-15 p-60. what his accountant do just simple run accountancy software and generate new payslips and p-60 and handed over to OP.
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Re: ILR submission without pay slips ?

Post by Wanderer » Mon Apr 25, 2016 7:22 pm

Malik44 wrote:Fraud ? Where is fraud op work for that company and his company paying his salary on his bank and he also has employment contract. It would be fraud if op don't work for that company and make false payslips that is the definition of fraud .
So by your definition it's ok for me to print my own money if I don't get paid on time.
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Re: ILR submission without pay slips ?

Post by Malik44 » Mon Apr 25, 2016 7:23 pm

Gereatrix you take it my advice in wrong way if you feel I am wrong I apologise and request you to please delete my messages.
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Re: ILR submission without pay slips ?

Post by Ajay009 » Mon Apr 25, 2016 7:27 pm

I'm going to wait for reply from my employer till tomorrow, If they can't pay tax to hmrc & refuse to provide pay-slips to me, whom shall I contact for to take immediate actions on employer in legal procedure. UKBA or Employee tribunal ?

So far i'm trying to go in legal way to get pay slips & P60 by discussing the situation with my employer and what they made so far & it's going on.

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Re: ILR submission without pay slips ?

Post by Casa » Tue Apr 26, 2016 6:55 am

It may be wise to read this thread:
http://www.immigrationboards.com/indefi ... 07970.html
(Casa, not CR001)
Please don't send me PMs asking for immigration advice on posts that are on the open forum. If I haven't responded there, it's because I don't have the answer. I'm a moderator, not a legal professional.

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Re: ILR submission without pay slips ?

Post by HarryJones » Tue Apr 26, 2016 7:44 am

Almost 50 responses now.
We always claim that we are not tax experts here on this forum and hence cannot comment on tax related issues.
are we fair to others?

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Re: ILR submission without pay slips ?

Post by noajthan » Tue Apr 26, 2016 8:15 am

HarryJones wrote:Almost 50 responses now.
We always claim that we are not tax experts here on this forum and hence cannot comment on tax related issues.
are we fair to others?
There is precious little tax-related advice in the above. Lot of argy bargy though. Could be time to wrap it up.
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Re: ILR submission without pay slips ?

Post by Ajay009 » Mon May 09, 2016 10:30 am

Hi all,

I had a meeting with my HR last week regarding my payslips & P60, they said that they were discussing with HMRC & they need sometime to provide my payslips.

My visa expires on may 31st, exactly 3 weeks left. I heard from someone that still i have 28 days after my visa expire which I can submit my application to HO, Is that true ?

If not how many days do I have to submit my application once my visa expires ? or my deadline is by may 30th to submit my application ? Can anyone suggest me please.

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Re: ILR submission without pay slips ?

Post by kautya » Mon May 09, 2016 10:40 am

Ajay009 wrote:Hi all,

I had a meeting with my HR last week regarding my payslips & P60, they said that they were discussing with HMRC & they need sometime to provide my payslips.

My visa expires on may 31st, exactly 3 weeks left. I heard from someone that still i have 28 days after my visa expire which I can submit my application to HO, Is that true ?

If not how many days do I have to submit my application once my visa expires ? or my deadline is by may 30th to submit my application ? Can anyone suggest me please.
You get upto 28 days grace period but you will have to explain why you are overstaying (I think). I would recommend getting evidence from both your employer and their conversations with HMRC to attach to your application, if you can't get the payslips in time.
Most employers usually process P60s by end of may so you dont always get the latest P60 but the last payslip holds the same information for the financial year ending 5th April (i.e the payslip for march) including the year gross income and the amount of tax paid.

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Re: ILR submission without pay slips ?

Post by Ajay009 » Mon May 09, 2016 10:58 am

kautya wrote:
You get upto 28 days grace period but you will have to explain why you are overstaying (I think). I would recommend getting evidence from both your employer and their conversations with HMRC to attach to your application, if you can't get the payslips in time.
Most employers usually process P60s by end of may so you dont always get the latest P60 but the last payslip holds the same information for the financial year ending 5th April (i.e the payslip for march) including the year gross income and the amount of tax paid.
Thanks Kautya for you reply.

I have the evidence from my end the conversation between me & my HR, i'm not sure that my employer can give the evidence to me that their conversations with HMRC but i'll request to them.

As a said in begining, that I don't have payslips from June 2015 onwards, so I can't show the proof of my earning for the financial year ending 5th April-16.

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Re: ILR submission without pay slips ?

Post by geriatrix » Mon May 09, 2016 11:55 am

Ajay009,

1. What (two) evidences (from 2 sources) are you intending to provide as evidence of income to apply for settlement as a Tier 1 (General) migrant? I guess one will be the bank statements, but what is the other one - in absence of payslips?

2. What is the 12 months period are you considering using within the 15 months window to score points for income?

3. Have you checked your tax figures for the past years - specially the ones in which you applied for Tier 1 G initially and then extension(s)? Are their any discrepancies?
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Re: ILR submission without pay slips ?

Post by Ajay009 » Mon May 09, 2016 2:46 pm

geriatrix wrote:Ajay009,

1. What (two) evidences (from 2 sources) are you intending to provide as evidence of income to apply for settlement as a Tier 1 (General) migrant? I guess one will be the bank statements, but what is the other one - in absence of payslips?

2. What is the 12 months period are you considering using within the 15 months window to score points for income?

3. Have you checked your tax figures for the past years - specially the ones in which you applied for Tier 1 G initially and then extension(s)? Are their any discrepancies?
Hi geriatrix,

Thanks for your reply.

1. Evidence-1 is bank statements which they paid into my account with their ref(Company name) name.
Evidence-2 is latest employment status letter to HO name with details including yearly salary income(i.e 32K) & still working status. And I have latest meetings email conversation details and investigation details on my payslips which I can submit these for delay of my application submission.

2. Apr-2015 to mar-2016 months i'm going to show.

3. I have checked all years (specially for T-1 G extension period), I have filed SA on time and paid all taxes on time as-well, no discrepancies at all.

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Re: ILR submission without pay slips ?

Post by Ajay009 » Thu May 12, 2016 1:19 pm

Hi all,

While working with an employer and we can do(show) as a Self employed which we can show for ILR, Can anyone send me a link with these requirements showing above details which are legal please.

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Re: ILR submission without pay slips ?

Post by Ajay009 » Tue Jun 14, 2016 11:13 am

Hi all,
Just to let you all know, with the help of Solicitor this issue was resolved in May.

Thanks for your responses.

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Re: ILR submission without pay slips ?

Post by kautya » Tue Jun 14, 2016 12:06 pm

Ajay009 wrote:Hi all,
Just to let you all know, with the help of Solicitor this issue was resolved in May.

Thanks for your responses.
Can you please list what steps were followed so that it might be helpful to others in similar situation ? What evidence did you provide instead of the payslips?

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Re: ILR submission without pay slips ?

Post by Ajay009 » Thu Jun 30, 2016 11:26 am

kautya wrote:
Ajay009 wrote:Hi all,
Just to let you all know, with the help of Solicitor this issue was resolved in May.

Thanks for your responses.
Can you please list what steps were followed so that it might be helpful to others in similar situation ? What evidence did you provide instead of the payslips?
Hi Kautya,
Through solicitor, I have raised Grievance on my employer then they reacted and paid all taxes to HMRC and then they provided payslips & P60, which it took 3 weeks.

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