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Re: My upcoming ILR Application

Post by benhuang » Sat Dec 19, 2020 8:20 pm

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Sat Dec 19, 2020 6:23 pm
Passport(s) covering period from when you entered UK since your first visa issue date on Tier 1. Calculate accordingly.

All previous passport(s) before the above stated are unnecessary.
Dear Cullinan,

I just want to double confirm the relevant passports i need to submit using the following information:

1.Date of first visa issue date: 5/1/2016
2.Date of first entry in UK: 7/1/2016
3.Immidiately preceding passport: 15/9/2015 (issue date) to 15/3/2021 (this passport has the visa sticker on it stated visa issue date 5/1/2016)
4.Current passport: 8/8/2020 (issue date) to 18/2/2026.

Based on the above actual scenario, i only need to submit passports as stated in #3 and #4 above. Correct ?
So the logic is HO need the relevant passports to verify the absence from the UK during the 5 year period since date of first visa issue date/ date of 1st entry in my case. Correct?
I thought HO needs all the previous passports to check whether we are illegal entered into the UK in the past say, 10 to 20years.

Thank you

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Re: My upcoming ILR Application

Post by CULLINAN » Sat Dec 19, 2020 9:01 pm

Correct to all above except as below:

No. HO has the records.
I thought HO needs all the previous passports to check whether we are illegal entered into the UK in the past say, 10 to 20years.
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Re: My upcoming ILR Application

Post by benhuang » Sat Dec 19, 2020 11:35 pm

CULLINAN wrote:
Sat Dec 19, 2020 9:01 pm
Correct to all above except as below:

No. HO has the records.
I thought HO needs all the previous passports to check whether we are illegal entered into the UK in the past say, 10 to 20years.
Dear Cullinan,

Noted your comment on the passports.

Regarding the dependant spouse upload of documents:

The Proof of identity/ travel history becomes the #1 Section. It states "The passport or travel document for Mr Ben from Malaysia" .So I uploaded my two relevant passports here (current passport+ the immediately preceding one).

The Proof of Application is the #10 section. So under this section, i only uploaded:
1.Consent-Part 1-signed by me,
2.Consent-Part 2-signed by main applicant,
3.Consent-Part 3-signed by main applicant,

So the upload of documents under the Main Applicant section is a bit different from the above.

Except for the above that i need to clarify, I am ready for "self submit" tomorrow.

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Re: My upcoming ILR Application

Post by CULLINAN » Sat Dec 19, 2020 11:36 pm

Yes it is normal. Dependents get the first section as proof of identity rather than proof of application. You did it right.
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Re: My upcoming ILR Application

Post by benhuang » Sat Dec 19, 2020 11:45 pm

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Sat Dec 19, 2020 11:36 pm
Yes it is normal. Dependents get the first section as proof of identity rather than proof of application. You did it right.
Dear Cullinan,

Noted of the above.

Regarding the marriage certificate, since this is part of the cohabitation documents, i uploaded under the dependant section rather than the main applicant section.

Please confirm again.


Just above the submit button, it says:

"Submit your uploaded documents to UKVI"
You now have the option to submit your uploaded documents before your appointment takes place. This action can only be performed once.

I thought you said in the previous message that I can submit, if i missed the documents, i can submit again before the appointment. But the above statement means "the action can only be performed once".
Can your clarify on this?

Thank you.

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Re: My upcoming ILR Application

Post by CULLINAN » Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:07 am

benhuang wrote:
Sat Dec 19, 2020 11:45 pm
CULLINAN wrote:
Sat Dec 19, 2020 11:36 pm
Yes it is normal. Dependents get the first section as proof of identity rather than proof of application. You did it right.
Dear Cullinan,

Noted of the above.

Regarding the marriage certificate, since this is part of the cohabitation documents, i uploaded under the dependant section rather than the main applicant section.

Please confirm again.

Correct


Just above the submit button, it says:

"Submit your uploaded documents to UKVI"
You now have the option to submit your uploaded documents before your appointment takes place. This action can only be performed once.

I thought you said in the previous message that I can submit, if i missed the documents, i can submit again before the appointment. But the above statement means "the action can only be performed once".
i.e. self-submit
Can your clarify on this?
You can SELF-submit once. You can always upload more before appointment and submit at appointment itself AGAIN.
Thank you.

Ben
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Re: My upcoming ILR Application

Post by benhuang » Mon Dec 21, 2020 12:45 am

Dear Cullinan,

Thank you for your clarifications on the "self submit". I have "self submitted" the main applicant documents on 20/12/2020.

The following are the document types by category for the 18+ Child and I have to upload correctly under each document type, please review:

18+ Child applicant
1.Proof of application:
1.1 Consent form signed by 18+ Child applicant- Part 1
1.2 Consent form signed by main applicant-Part 1
1.3 Consent form signed by main applicant-Part 2
1.4 Consent form signed by main applicant-Part 3
1.5 current passport of 18+ Child
1.6 Cover letter to HO by 18+ Child to inform HO that his mother has applied for ILR (with main applicant's name and UAN stated on the letter)

2.Others
Not Applicable

3.Residence in UK
3.1 BRP

4.Finances
Not applicable

5.Proof of business
Not applicable

6.Life events
all the cohabitation documents as follows:
6.1 One month bank stmt dated within one month of submission
6.2 College letter dated within one month of submission
6.3 Birth certificate (original language)
6.4 Birth certificate (translated)

7.Medical information
Not applicable

8.Sponsors/ Employment
Not applicable


9.Proof of identity/ travel history
9.1 Immediately preceding passport (with the date of first entry/ the initial visa granted date)

10.Educational
10.1 liuk certificate (Not applicable, as online liuk reference is given in the applicant form)
10.2 English test certificate (Not applicable, as online IELTS reference is given in the applicant form)



Please review and advise.

Thank you.

Regards

Ben

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Re: My upcoming ILR Application

Post by CULLINAN » Mon Dec 21, 2020 1:11 am

benhuang wrote:
Mon Dec 21, 2020 12:45 am
Dear Cullinan,

Thank you for your clarifications on the "self submit". I have "self submitted" the main applicant documents on 20/12/2020.

The following are the document types by category for the 18+ Child and I have to upload correctly under each document type, please review:

18+ Child applicant
1.Proof of application:
1.1 Consent form signed by 18+ Child applicant- Part 1
1.2 Consent form signed by main applicant-Part 1 Not needed. Applicant signs Part 1
1.3 Consent form signed by main applicant-Part 2
1.4 Consent form signed by main applicant-Part 3
1.5 current passport of 18+ Child
1.6 Cover letter to HO by 18+ Child to inform HO that his mother has applied for ILR (with main applicant's name and UAN stated on the letter)

2.Others
Not Applicable

3.Residence in UK
3.1 BRP

4.Finances
Not applicable

5.Proof of business
Not applicable

6.Life events
all the cohabitation documents as follows:
6.1 One month bank stmt dated within one month of submission
6.2 College letter dated within one month of submission
6.3 Birth certificate (original language)
6.4 Birth certificate (translated)

7.Medical information
Not applicable

8.Sponsors/ Employment
Not applicable


9.Proof of identity/ travel history
3.1 BRP
9.1 Immediately preceding passport (with the date of first entry/ the initial visa granted date)

10.Educational
10.1 liuk certificate (Not applicable, as online liuk reference is given in the applicant form)
10.2 English test certificate (Not applicable, as online IELTS reference is given in the applicant form)



Please review and advise.

Thank you.

Regards

Ben
Upload BRP in proof of identity also. Rest all looks good
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Re: My upcoming ILR Application

Post by benhuang » Mon Dec 21, 2020 1:00 pm

CULLINAN wrote:
Mon Dec 21, 2020 1:11 am
benhuang wrote:
Mon Dec 21, 2020 12:45 am
Dear Cullinan,

Thank you for your clarifications on the "self submit". I have "self submitted" the main applicant documents on 20/12/2020.

The following are the document types by category for the 18+ Child and I have to upload correctly under each document type, please review:

18+ Child applicant
1.Proof of application:
1.1 Consent form signed by 18+ Child applicant- Part 1
1.2 Consent form signed by main applicant-Part 1 Not needed. Applicant signs Part 1
1.3 Consent form signed by main applicant-Part 2
1.4 Consent form signed by main applicant-Part 3
1.5 current passport of 18+ Child
1.6 Cover letter to HO by 18+ Child to inform HO that his mother has applied for ILR (with main applicant's name and UAN stated on the letter)

2.Others
Not Applicable

3.Residence in UK
3.1 BRP

4.Finances
Not applicable

5.Proof of business
Not applicable

6.Life events
all the cohabitation documents as follows:
6.1 One month bank stmt dated within one month of submission
6.2 College letter dated within one month of submission
6.3 Birth certificate (original language)
6.4 Birth certificate (translated)

7.Medical information
Not applicable

8.Sponsors/ Employment
Not applicable


9.Proof of identity/ travel history
3.1 BRP
9.1 Immediately preceding passport (with the date of first entry/ the initial visa granted date)

10.Educational
10.1 liuk certificate (Not applicable, as online liuk reference is given in the applicant form)
10.2 English test certificate (Not applicable, as online IELTS reference is given in the applicant form)



Please review and advise.

Thank you.

Regards

Ben
Upload BRP in proof of identity also. Rest all looks good
Dear Cullinan,

Thank you for your comments above.

I have self submitted both Children's documents today (21/12/2020).

Regards

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Re: My upcoming ILR Application

Post by CULLINAN » Mon Dec 21, 2020 1:03 pm

Dear Ben,

You did really well. All your documents files will say “submitted” now.

Good luck. I hope you all get an approval right after biometrics submission. Keep us posted.

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Re: My upcoming ILR Application

Post by benhuang » Mon Dec 21, 2020 10:53 pm

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Mon Dec 21, 2020 1:03 pm
Dear Ben,

You did really well. All your documents files will say “submitted” now.

Good luck. I hope you all get an approval right after biometrics submission. Keep us posted.

Kind Regards,
Cullinan
Dear Cullinan,

Yes, I logged on and checked the status. The files marked "submitted" indeed.

I have another question. We are planning of moving to PLACE A and due to this my sons have applied universities using a friend's house address (PLACE B) as this address will be more permanent. I wonder the change of address of main applicant to PLACE A and the dependants to PLACE B due to the above reasons before the leave is granted will jeopardise our ILR application? It is a silly question but it somehow borders me ?

Please confirm.

Thank you.

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Re: My upcoming ILR Application

Post by CULLINAN » Mon Dec 21, 2020 10:56 pm

What is your children’s current address? I though you said they live with you and go to university already?
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Re: My upcoming ILR Application

Post by benhuang » Mon Dec 21, 2020 11:06 pm

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Mon Dec 21, 2020 10:56 pm
What is your children’s current address? I though you said they live with you and go to university already?
Dear Cullinan,

Sorry for the confusion!

Yes, we all live together in the same address since the first entry in uk. We have been here in this address for 5 years now.

Now we have submitted the applications, I am saying we are considering to shift house (but haven't decided yet). As my sons are applying Universities currently, so i told them, they may use my friend's house address as correspondence address. They have not submitted the University application pending confirmation from me. Everything is under planning stage, we are still live in the same address as my wife said better stay put until we got the leave approved.

So my question is whether the change of address of the main applicant to PLACE A and the dependants to PLACE B in the near future (before the leave is granted) will affect the HO decision or not ??

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Re: My upcoming ILR Application

Post by CULLINAN » Mon Dec 21, 2020 11:24 pm

Keep all your addresses same for now. However, your children may use a second address for university correspondence no issues.
However note, if you plan to change address, change for ALL address to the new address. You will have to notify HO about the address change via the “address update gov service.”

Very important:

Do you know what your new address is? You could have put the new address as a correspondence address in the online form (obviously not if you do not know yet). If you know before biometrics, highly recommend to add a cover letter for change address to the new one for all and upload with the documents. Also update it via the online official service.

Note: HO does NOT update the address at numerous occasions even when you write or update using the gov service. These days usually due to corona, the approvals are sent via email but BRP’s are sent to home address. If you change address but HO does not update (very likely), your BRP’s will be sent to old address. You should stay in contact with someone at your old address and get your BRP’s in that case.

If address update messes up, you will see delays getting your BRP or getting a replacement.
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Re: My upcoming ILR Application

Post by benhuang » Mon Dec 21, 2020 11:32 pm

CULLINAN wrote:
Mon Dec 21, 2020 11:24 pm
Keep all your addresses same for now. However, your children may use a second address for university correspondence no issues.
However note, if you plan to change address, change for ALL address to the new address. You will have to notify HO about the address change via the “address update gov service.”

Very important:

Do you know what your new address is? You could have put the new address as a correspondence address in the online form (obviously not if you do not know yet). If you know before biometrics, highly recommend to add a cover letter for change address to the new one for all and upload with the documents. Also update it via the online official service.

Note: HO does NOT update the address at numerous occasions even when you write or update using the gov service. These days usually due to corona, the approvals are sent via email but BRP’s are sent to home address. If you change address but HO does not update (very likely), your BRP’s will be sent to old address. You should stay in contact with someone at your old address and get your BRP’s in that case.

If address update messes up, you will see delays getting your BRP or getting a replacement.
Dear Cullinan,

Thank you for your advice.

For simplicity sake, we will stayput in this original address until we got the BRP.

Ben

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Re: My upcoming ILR Application

Post by CULLINAN » Mon Dec 21, 2020 11:34 pm

Tier 1 Entrepreneur surprisingly is getting approved very quick. 2 recent cases approved within 1 week after biometrics. I am hoping you will get a response very soon after biometrics.
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Re: My upcoming ILR Application

Post by benhuang » Mon Dec 21, 2020 11:45 pm

CULLINAN wrote:
Mon Dec 21, 2020 11:34 pm
Tier 1 Entrepreneur surprisingly is getting approved very quick. 2 recent cases approved within 1 week after biometrics. I am hoping you will get a response very soon after biometrics.

Dear Cullinan,

Thank you for your updates.

Yes, I look forward to the quick approval.

Regards

Ben

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Re: My upcoming ILR Application

Post by benhuang » Tue Jan 12, 2021 12:44 pm

benhuang wrote:
Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:10 pm
CULLINAN wrote:
Tue Dec 15, 2020 1:24 am
My tip for you

You must book an UKVCAS appointment now to complete your application process and submit biometrics. IDV is the past except T4.

You can book an appointment anytime before the deadline i.e. 45 working days after submission.

Better to keep checking before Saturday randomly through out the day/different locations so you may end up securing an earlier one if there are any cancellations.

However, you can always upload your documents and SELF-submit so your documents are sent to UKVI even before biometrics (optional) OR you can upload anytime before biometrics appointment itself. Self-submission option can be availed only once and up to 48hrs before appointment only. In case you want to add anymore documents after self-submission (e.g. you missed any documents), you can still upload and submit at the appointment itself. Self-submission is recommended so you can save time even before biometrics.

See at top @ UKVCAS account. You will see “document upload”
You can upload your documents there on the UKVCAS portal and then follow self-submission if you wish.

Also see the new UKVCAS flash updates regularly:

https://www.ukvcas.co.uk/flash-message- ... geId=74833
Do NOT buy any documents checking service its a waste and your documents will be blocked and not sent to UKVI till appointment date then.
Dear Cullinan,

I am very grateful to your help in clarifying on a lot of matters so that I could plan ahead.

I have good news for you. I checked on UKVCAS once yesterday night. Most centres are either full or need to pay fees at a minimum £139 per time slot. So I logged out without booking. Early in the morning, I logged back on and check the status, the centre, which is acceptable to me, has sufficient FREE slots and I booked immediately as follows:

3 Appointments booked on 11 January 2020:
1.One time slot for the dependant 18+child at 3.30pm
2.One time slot for the Main applicant + the dependant spouse at 4pm
3.One time slot for the dependant 18+child at 4.30pm

Thank you for everything.

Regards

Ben
Dear Cullinan,

We went to the Service Point yesterday (11/1/2021) to have the biometrics taken. We reached there 1 hour before the scheduled appointment 3.30PM. Even though we have different time slots for our appointments, we waited for only 15 minutes outside the building, then we were asked to go in together as a family and the process started almost concurrently without even have to queue. The whole process is completed at 3.45PM.

I look forward to hearing a favourable reply from HO.

Thank you.

Regards

Ben

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Re: My upcoming ILR Application

Post by CULLINAN » Tue Jan 12, 2021 1:37 pm

Keep a check on your email/junk folder. Good luck. Keep us posted :)
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Re: My upcoming ILR Application

Post by benhuang » Tue Jan 12, 2021 5:43 pm

Dear Cullinan,

I received an email from HO this afternoon requesting for further information as follows. It says:

Please provide the following evidence to demonstrate your business is actively trading (excluding periods of furlough or covid related periods where the business was unable to trade):

1.Business bank statements showing expenditure for business and incoming payments from clients
Ben:
My bank statements will be able to show.....Payment for website renewal/ professional indemnity insurance/Anti Money Laundry license renewal, purchase of laptop, subscriptions of payroll software, Norton anti-virus subscription, etc …..

For incoming payments: The bank statement would be able to show either the direct transfer with name of client or cash banked in with name of client stated on the bank statement and these incoming payment matched with the sale invoices.

2.Evidence of clients including invoices, correspondence, agreements and contracts for services provided
Ben:
I would be able to furnish sales invoices, email correspondences with clients and engagement contract


3.Evidence of purchases for the business
Ben: I would furnish the invoices for the purchase as mentioned in (1) above.

4.Evidence of advertising for your business
Ben:
We printed the leaflets and distributed / leaflets on shop window advertisements (we have photo of the shopfront) / we pay and set up booth at a festival to advertise biz (we have photo or video clip as evidence) / Website / name cards.

5.Website address of your business – if you do not have a website please give reasons why.

Ben:
We will furnish the website address


6.Snapshots of other social media advertising your business
Ben:
Will take photo of facebook page

7.Evidence showing examples of work undertaken by your business
Ben:
7.1 we will furnish client's management accounts in excel format,
7.2 Client CT600 (with main applicants name stated and declared that all information disclosed are correct and signed off as Consultant),
7.3 client SA100 with main applicants name stated on it as tax advisers and main applicant's biz address also stated.
7.4 Quarterly VAT submission computations and workings
7.5 PAYE submission summary (work and submission done by us but main applicant's name not stated on the PAYE submission summary)

8.Evidence showing examples of work undertaken by employees

Ben:
8.1 sorting invoices before data keying in. This one I cannot be proven. Please comment

8.2 Salary schedule, fixed assets schedule, VAT workings, etc The staff keyed in their initial and date the working papers. Please comment.


9.Evidence of advertising
I think it is the same as (4) above.

10.Address of where you work from
Ben: My house address also the biz address

11.Photos of the work space.
Ben: Will take photo of the work space which shows 3 tables, 3 laptops, a printers and some clients files.

12.Address where your employees work from.
Ben: Same as 10 above

13.Evidence showing work related correspondence with employees.
Ben:
Due to the nature of work is mainly invoice sorting and data keying in, we never give email instructions as the work is done in my house. At the end of every month, we only emailed the monthly payslips to them. That's all. I dont think i can furnish good evidence in this respect. Please comment

Please also comment on a overall basis.

Thank you.

Kind regards

Ben

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Re: My upcoming ILR Application

Post by CULLINAN » Tue Jan 12, 2021 6:56 pm

Will get back later around 10pm tonight.
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Re: My upcoming ILR Application

Post by CULLINAN » Tue Jan 12, 2021 7:21 pm

Basically you got this request due to your business address as your home address.

You had a smooth sail at your extension stage but it flagged up at ILR stage.

HO seems to scrutinise all business who run from home address for genuineness. Basically the request is due to the genuineness entrepreneur test which every applicant has to pass.

May I know what type of business you have? I think you answered previously but what is the nature of the business? Where do the employees work from?? What are their job titles? Are you £200k or £50k category?

The questionnaire you got is a pretty standard questionnaire. I ran my company from my home address also. Had a 4 hour interview at my home address back in 2017 but had a smooth sail at ILR stage. Pretty much the same questions.
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Re: My upcoming ILR Application

Post by benhuang » Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:03 pm

CULLINAN wrote:
Tue Jan 12, 2021 7:21 pm
Basically you got this request due to your business address as your home address.

HO seems to scrutinise all business who run from home address for genuineness. Basically the request is due to the genuineness entrepreneur test which every applicant has to pass.

May I know what type of business you have? I think you answered previously but what is the nature of the business? Where do the employees work from?? What are their job titles? Are you £200k or £50k category?

The questionnaire you got is a pretty standard questionnaire. I ran my company from my home address also. Had a 4 hour interview at my home address back in 2017 but had a smooth sail at ILR stage. Pretty much the same questions.
Dear Cullinan,

My answer to your questions are as follows:

HO seems to scrutinise all business who run from home address for genuineness. Basically the request is due to the genuineness entrepreneur test which every applicant has to pass. Ben: Noted

May I know what type of business you have? (Ben: It is a Book keeping and consultancy biz) I think you answered previously but what is the nature of the business? (Ben: the provision of book keeping service, submission services such as PAYE, VAT submission, CT600 and SA100 submission) Where do the employees work from?? (Ben: they come to my house as they mainly deal with sorting of invoices/ documents and data keying in) the What are their job titles? (Ben: Job title is Admin and Book Keeping Assistant for both) Are you £200k or £50k category? (Ben: £200k category)

The questionnaire you got is a pretty standard questionnaire. I ran my company from my home address also. Had a 4 hour interview at my home address back in 2017 but had a smooth sail at ILR stage. Pretty much the same questions. (Ben: It looks like they might be asking for an interview as well)

Thank you.

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Re: My upcoming ILR Application

Post by CULLINAN » Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:22 pm

8.Evidence showing examples of work undertaken by employees

Ben:
8.1 sorting invoices before data keying in. This one I cannot be proven. Please comment

8.2 Salary schedule, fixed assets schedule, VAT workings, etc The staff keyed in their initial and date the working papers. Please comment.
To be honest, you are the best person to answer this on your own as you know how you handle your things. You need to show them what work your employees do and how. How do they report you? How do you check their work etc. If they work from your own house, you can simply state the basics i.e. how work is carried out, how work is checked, how much time is spent etc. It has to be realistic with the work load you have obviously.

13.Evidence showing work related correspondence with employees.
Ben:
Due to the nature of work is mainly invoice sorting and data keying in, we never give email instructions as the work is done in my house. At the end of every month, we only emailed the monthly payslips to them. That's all. I dont think i can furnish good evidence in this respect. Please comment
Do you have any telephonic records to show how you contact them? How do you correspond with them when they are not at work? You can simply state about the work they do at home and how you correspond with them. Again, you are the best person to answer this on your own.

I would suggest stick to the point when you answer. Answer should not be too less or too much. Providing unnecessary information sometimes makes CW go into more depth. Explain truthfully how you operate your business and handle your employees. As long your business is genuine you have nothing to worry.
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Re: My upcoming ILR Application

Post by benhuang » Tue Jan 12, 2021 11:16 pm

CULLINAN wrote:
Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:22 pm
8.Evidence showing examples of work undertaken by employees

Ben:
8.1 sorting invoices before data keying in. This one I cannot be proven. Please comment

8.2 Salary schedule, fixed assets schedule, VAT workings, etc The staff keyed in their initial and date the working papers. Please comment.
To be honest, you are the best person to answer this on your own as you know how you handle your things. You need to show them what work your employees do and how. How do they report you? How do you check their work etc. If they work from your own house, you can simply state the basics i.e. how work is carried out, how work is checked, how much time is spent etc. It has to be realistic with the work load you have obviously.

Ben: We only have few clients and hence, there is really no much work to do. The 2 employees have a lot of spare time after sorting of invoices/ receipt, so they also help up with some data keying it, that's all. As we are dealing with piles of loose documents mainly invoices/ receipts, the sorting of those documents has to be done in my house to minimize the documents being misplaced. That's the only reason. The accounting software is installed in my laptop and hence, the data keying in process has to be done in my house anyway. I am dealing with all the submissions to relevant authorities.

13.Evidence showing work related correspondence with employees.
Ben:
Due to the nature of work is mainly invoice sorting and data keying in, we never give email instructions as the work is done in my house. At the end of every month, we only emailed the monthly payslips to them. That's all. I dont think i can furnish good evidence in this respect. Please comment


Do you have any telephonic records to show how you contact them? (Ben: Yes, it is mainly the phone calls and wechat and is non work related) How do you correspond with them when they are not at work? (Ben: we did not call them to discuss work due to the nature of work they carried out. We can only brief them on the spot where the loose invoices are). You can simply state about the work they do at home and how you correspond with them. Again, you are the best person to answer this on your own. (Ben: They did not bring work home because there is no such need, they already got nothing to do when they are in my house)

I would suggest stick to the point when you answer. Answer should not be too less or too much. Providing unnecessary information sometimes makes CW go into more depth. Explain truthfully how you operate your business and handle your employees. As long your business is genuine you have nothing to worry. (Ben: Noted your points)


In line with the answer I have furnished for the rest of the questions and the one regarding the 2 employees, i really do not know what else HO want me to prove?

I would like to hear your overall comment on my scenario taking into consideration that would be the explanation how I handled the 2 employees. It is just a very small business and also a simple way of handling employees as we ourselves do not have mush things for them to do.


Thank you.

Ben

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