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PEO Appointments and HMRC checks

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PEO Appointments and HMRC checks

Post by Kevin24 » Sun Mar 03, 2013 7:19 pm

I happened to meet a good friend of mine today,who works at HMRC.He told me that for every PEO appointments ,for Tier 1 and Tier 2 applicants ,the CW checks with HMRC for your Employment summary. This always happens every time. If a delay in this EH being transmitted from HMRC to PEO,CW requests the 5 year P60s .

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Post by Gagan1986 » Sun Mar 03, 2013 7:51 pm

Very interesting

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Post by Kevin24 » Sun Mar 03, 2013 7:59 pm

We are so happy that CW did not ask for the 5 year.P 60s. Actually CW is checking the same information before approving the ILR application. Also your Immigration history and Criminality Checks from the Time you entered UK.

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Re: PEO Appointments and HMRC checks

Post by ryan2020 » Sun Mar 03, 2013 9:46 pm

Kevin24 wrote:I happened to meet a good friend of mine today,who works at HMRC.He told me that for every PEO appointments ,for Tier 1 and Tier 2 applicants ,the CW checks with HMRC for your Employment summary. This always happens every time. If a delay in this EH being transmitted from HMRC to PEO,CW requests the 5 year P60s .
i don't think so. Because i was in self-employment case worker did ask me that did i have paid TAX on the income i have declared.
But i did submitted 5 year P-60s.
If they have access to HMRC they should have quickly find out that TAX hasbeen paid or not.

Please stop passing incorrect info as it will miss guide innocent applicants.

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Post by Kevin24 » Sun Mar 03, 2013 10:18 pm

Mate! I only passed the information what I was told. If you have problems with that I can;t help it. I only wanted to help all members.Since you gave all the 5 year P 60s they were satisfied.Do you honestly believe that CW is going to approve an ILR application purely based on your documentation with out accessing /looking at Independent information.

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Post by Gagan1986 » Sun Mar 03, 2013 10:32 pm

Kevin24 wrote:Mate! I only passed the information what I was told. If you have problems with that I can;t help it. I only wanted to help all members.Since you gave all the 5 year P 60s they were satisfied.Do you honestly believe that CW is going to approve an ILR application purely based on your documentation with out accessing /looking at Independent information.
Very true. There is lot more to it than we actually see when we go for our PEO appointment. Why do they ask you to declare criminal convictions on the form plus they ask verbally as well though they will do their own criminal checks anyways? They definitely don't just judge or make a decision on an application just on the basis on independent info.

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Post by Kevin24 » Sun Mar 03, 2013 10:57 pm

Thanks Gagan,Nowadays Government Depts. are linked. So they share information. May that's why for e,g :PEO appointments ,they encourage for straightforward applications, where no further checks are necessary. It is always be prepared for any eventuality. Be truthful and Honest to the CW.These are my thoughts need not be necessary for every one to agree..

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Post by Digvijay » Mon Mar 04, 2013 10:52 am

I dont think so they check all .If your case is strightforward then its likely that they will do all checks .It depends on every case worker if they want they can get all information .

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Re: PEO Appointments and HMRC checks

Post by lxx » Mon Mar 04, 2013 11:19 am

Kevin24 wrote:I happened to meet a good friend of mine today,who works at HMRC.He told me that for every PEO appointments ,for Tier 1 and Tier 2 applicants ,the CW checks with HMRC for your Employment summary. This always happens every time. If a delay in this EH being transmitted from HMRC to PEO,CW requests the 5 year P60s .
Hi Kevin

Thanks for the information. Do you know what details they would ask for, just recent employment history or for the whole 5 years?

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Post by ilrapplicant2013 » Mon Mar 04, 2013 2:41 pm

So just an update from my end,

I was just speaking with HMRC regarding a query on my tax returns, and asked them if Home office would have direct access to my tax records and she said, they might not have access to do real time checks.

She was more certain, So I guess real time checks dont happen but of course Home office can get this details if they would like to verify.

Having said that I think it is useful for everyone to get the Employment History and be sure that what is on P60 is reflected on there. Just in case Home office do the checks.


It has higlighted a gap on my records.

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Re: PEO Appointments and HMRC checks

Post by Kevin24 » Mon Mar 04, 2013 5:17 pm

lxx wrote:
Kevin24 wrote:I happened to meet a good friend of mine today,who works at HMRC.He told me that for every PEO appointments ,for Tier 1 and Tier 2 applicants ,the CW checks with HMRC for your Employment summary. This always happens every time. If a delay in this EH being transmitted from HMRC to PEO,CW requests the 5 year P60s .
Hi Kevin

Thanks for the information. Do you know what details they would ask for, just recent employment history or for the whole 5 years?
They don't do real time checks. But they will request from HMRC ,your Employment History for 5 years ( same information as in P60s). To check for e.g A tier 2 applicant, whether you have been economically active for 5 years. Other checks will be on your Immigration history,your SAR file and criminality checks. Read some PEO experiences relevant to your Immigration category and see the documents they ask for from the applicant.That's how I learn t about these checks and documents. It is really worth while spending some time.,because you will be better prepared for any problems you may encounter..

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Post by Kevin24 » Mon Mar 04, 2013 5:52 pm

ilrapplicant2013 wrote:So just an update from my end,

I was just speaking with HMRC regarding a query on my tax returns, and asked them if Home office would have direct access to my tax records and she said, they might not have access to do real time checks.

She was more certain, So I guess real time checks dont happen but of course Home office can get this details if they would like to verify.

Having said that I think it is useful for everyone to get the Employment History and be sure that what is on P60 is reflected on there. Just in case Home office do the checks.


It has higlighted a gap on my records.
That's right, be prepared with all the relevant documents . Then there is no need for you to be stressed and worried.

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Re: PEO Appointments and HMRC checks

Post by aruni4470 » Mon Mar 04, 2013 5:56 pm

Kevin24 wrote:
lxx wrote:
Kevin24 wrote:I happened to meet a good friend of mine today,who works at HMRC.He told me that for every PEO appointments ,for Tier 1 and Tier 2 applicants ,the CW checks with HMRC for your Employment summary. This always happens every time. If a delay in this EH being transmitted from HMRC to PEO,CW requests the 5 year P60s .
Hi Kevin

Thanks for the information. Do you know what details they would ask for, just recent employment history or for the whole 5 years?
They don't do real time checks. But they will request from HMRC ,your Employment History for 5 years ( same information as in P60s). To check for e.g A tier 2 applicant, whether you have been economically active for 5 years. Other checks will be on your Immigration history,your SAR file and criminality checks. Read some PEO experiences relevant to your Immigration category and see the documents they ask for from the applicant.That's how I learn t about these checks and documents. It is really worth while spending some time.,because you will be better prepared for any problems you may encounter..
Kevin,
Could you please get some more information from your friend how these checks are done? Will they request the info from HMRC on the day of appointment and the HMRC replies immediately by sending info? Little more elaborate info would be appreciated...

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Re: PEO Appointments and HMRC checks

Post by lxx » Mon Mar 04, 2013 5:56 pm

Kevin24 wrote:
lxx wrote:
Kevin24 wrote:I happened to meet a good friend of mine today,who works at HMRC.He told me that for every PEO appointments ,for Tier 1 and Tier 2 applicants ,the CW checks with HMRC for your Employment summary. This always happens every time. If a delay in this EH being transmitted from HMRC to PEO,CW requests the 5 year P60s .
Hi Kevin

Thanks for the information. Do you know what details they would ask for, just recent employment history or for the whole 5 years?
They don't do real time checks. But they will request from HMRC ,your Employment History for 5 years ( same information as in P60s). To check for e.g A tier 2 applicant, whether you have been economically active for 5 years. Other checks will be on your Immigration history,your SAR file and criminality checks. Read some PEO experiences relevant to your Immigration category and see the documents they ask for from the applicant.That's how I learn t about these checks and documents. It is really worth while spending some time.,because you will be better prepared for any problems you may encounter..
Many thanks Kevin :)
I've got some other issues, sent you PM this morning. Would you please check?
Thanks again!

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Re: PEO Appointments and HMRC checks

Post by Kevin24 » Mon Mar 04, 2013 6:11 pm

aruni4470 wrote:
Kevin24 wrote:
lxx wrote:
Kevin24 wrote:I happened to meet a good friend of mine today,who works at HMRC.He told me that for every PEO appointments ,for Tier 1 and Tier 2 applicants ,the CW checks with HMRC for your Employment summary. This always happens every time. If a delay in this EH being transmitted from HMRC to PEO,CW requests the 5 year P60s .
Hi Kevin

Thanks for the information. Do you know what details they would ask for, just recent employment history or for the whole 5 years?
They don't do real time checks. But they will request from HMRC ,your Employment History for 5 years ( same information as in P60s). To check for e.g A tier 2 applicant, whether you have been economically active for 5 years. Other checks will be on your Immigration history,your SAR file and criminality checks. Read some PEO experiences relevant to your Immigration category and see the documents they ask for from the applicant.That's how I learn t about these checks and documents. It is really worth while spending some time.,because you will be better prepared for any problems you may encounter..
Kevin,
Could you please get some more information from your friend how these checks are done? Will they request the info from HMRC on the day of appointment and the HMRC replies immediately by sending info? Little more elaborate info would be appreciated...[/quote

CWs don't have direct access to your HMRC records. When you go in for a PEO appointment, CW will key in your Name, NI No,. DOB and Employer's Name( For Tier 2 Applicant) and will request your Employment History. In turn HMRC will check their record s and will send the information via a print out, with in a short time. CW will check this and then only will approve your ILR application in addition to other checks.

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Re: PEO Appointments and HMRC checks

Post by Kevin24 » Mon Mar 04, 2013 6:17 pm

lxx wrote:
Kevin24 wrote:
lxx wrote:
Kevin24 wrote:I happened to meet a good friend of mine today,who works at HMRC.He told me that for every PEO appointments ,for Tier 1 and Tier 2 applicants ,the CW checks with HMRC for your Employment summary. This always happens every time. If a delay in this EH being transmitted from HMRC to PEO,CW requests the 5 year P60s .
Hi Kevin

Thanks for the information. Do you know what details they would ask for, just recent employment history or for the whole 5 years?
They don't do real time checks. But they will request from HMRC ,your Employment History for 5 years ( same information as in P60s). To check for e.g A tier 2 applicant, whether you have been economically active for 5 years. Other checks will be on your Immigration history,your SAR file and criminality checks. Read some PEO experiences relevant to your Immigration category and see the documents they ask for from the applicant.That's how I learn t about these checks and documents. It is really worth while spending some time.,because you will be better prepared for any problems you may encounter..
Many thanks Kevin :)
I've got some other issues, sent you PM this morning. Would you please check?
Thanks again!
Mate! I have not received your PM. Just put your issues on this thread, I will try to help you to the best of my ability.Or some body who are more knowledgeable than me will help you.

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Post by Kevin24 » Mon Mar 04, 2013 6:21 pm

Digvijay wrote:I dont think so they check all .If your case is strightforward then its likely that they will do all checks .It depends on every case worker if they want they can get all information .
I remeber reading one of your post about you having information that CW checks with HMRC. As long as we are doing the right thing and be truthful and honest, we should not be worried about any checks CW does.Either they approve or refuse. Surely they are not interviewing us for MI5 jobs.

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Post by Digvijay » Mon Mar 04, 2013 9:16 pm

Hey Kevin
Just want to know what if some one does not have employment history with hmrc , but all p60 for 5 yrs given by company , how will that work then ...

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Post by Kevin24 » Mon Mar 04, 2013 9:26 pm

Digvijay wrote:Hey Kevin
Just want to know what if some one does not have employment history with hmrc , but all p60 for 5 yrs given by company , how will that work then ...
That;s impossible not to have an Employment History for you with HMRC... But it all depends on the CW. No further checks done.. .If your Employer's P60 are s acceptable ,then you are o.k.If you meet the other conditions as well. I remember you mentioned about this problem some time ago.

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Post by cs95tdg » Mon Mar 04, 2013 9:29 pm

Digvijay wrote:Just want to know what if some one does not have employment history with hmrc , but all p60 for 5 yrs given by company , how will that work then ...
Someone who has worked in the UK must have an employment history with HMRC. P60's are issued by the employer. Ultimately what HMRC provide as your employment history will take precedence over P60s, both sources should reflect the same annual income and deductions.

If they don't, then that clearly indicates a discrepency which would require investigation to get to the bottom of the problem.
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