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Re: Query about docs required

Post by aman90 » Fri Jan 11, 2019 3:28 pm

Globe Trotter wrote:
Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:21 am
Many thanks aman90 and tier11417 for your valuable inputs.

The FPS that I submitted during my first extension did have the IR / PAYE reference number on them. And also some other details that related its submission to HMRC.

But my current FPS are just plain summaries and hence I am a bit skeptical about them.

Can you please explain what is a "PAYE reference letter"?

Kindest regards.
I specifically asked my accountant for my RTI FPS and he handed me the employers summary of each month instead. I’m not familiar with sagepay.

The initial letter you or your payroll agent received pertaining to unique employer registration and reference numbers.
PAYE reference number and Accounts office reference number for payments

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Re: Query about docs required

Post by aman90 » Fri Jan 11, 2019 3:35 pm

tier11417 wrote:
Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:46 am
aman90 wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:41 pm
I’ve put away my file in the deep recesses of a pit but I’m sure I saw the PAYE ref on the FPS somewhere..
My FPS does not have PAYE ref num. Although my employee wage slips have it
I sent in the FPS report as well.. that contained both PAYE ref n Accounts office ref amongst other info found on payslip..it may or may not be important..but one evidence relates to the other.

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Re: Query about docs required

Post by Meesha » Fri Jan 11, 2019 4:43 pm

My RTI FPS does not show payee reference.
And its not so easy to regenerate all one year and so FPSs in money soft provided you need to include pensions, correct tax codes, NI codes etc too. I spent half day this time to generate 2. And strangely once u do one FPS, software will not take data for 2nd claiming you did not submit last one. And obviously you can not hit submit. So each time u generate one, u will then uninstall software, reinstall and regenerate second and so on.
After my recent mistake, i would advise you to stick with accountant's provided FPSs.
However i would suggest one thing if you are unsure about format; ask your accountant to write a letter addressing to you with enclosed FPS clearly saying he is providing you RTI FPS copies enclosed which he had submitted to HMRC and submit FPSs with letter to UKVI.

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Re: Query about docs required

Post by CULLINAN » Fri Jan 11, 2019 6:25 pm

i personally think the info your document has is similar to FPS other format anyways. The other member tierlah also confirmed.
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Re: Query about docs required

Post by Globe Trotter » Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:53 am

Many thanks dear all for sharing your valuable knowledge and also for your kind suggestions.

Now I am at ease as I know what is to be done.

aman90 has posted that [I sent in the FPS report "as well"]. Does it mean that RTI and FPS are two different documents?

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Re: Query about docs required

Post by aman90 » Sun Jan 13, 2019 2:24 am

Globe Trotter wrote:
Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:53 am
Many thanks dear all for sharing your valuable knowledge and also for your kind suggestions.

Now I am at ease as I know what is to be done.

aman90 has posted that [I sent in the FPS report "as well"]. Does it mean that RTI and FPS are two different documents?
RTI FPS
Real Time Information Full Payment Submission.

Don’t worry abt it..I don’t think it’s important.
The FPS report just states the tax year, PAYE n account office reference as well as start or leaving dates of employees, salary and tax paid to date.

The RTI FPS is just that particular month or week’s info.. it contains total pay, tax n NI deductions,net pay, employers NI contributions and total due to HMRC.

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Re: Query about docs required

Post by CULLINAN » Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:02 am

aman90 wrote:
Sun Jan 13, 2019 2:24 am
Globe Trotter wrote:
Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:53 am
Many thanks dear all for sharing your valuable knowledge and also for your kind suggestions.

Now I am at ease as I know what is to be done.

aman90 has posted that [I sent in the FPS report "as well"]. Does it mean that RTI and FPS are two different documents?
RTI FPS
Real Time Information Full Payment Submission.

Don’t worry abt it..I don’t think it’s important.
The FPS report just states the tax year, PAYE n account office reference as well as start or leaving dates of employees, salary and tax paid to date.

The RTI FPS is just that particular month or week’s info.. it contains total pay, tax n NI deductions,net pay, employers NI contributions and total due to HMRC.
I thought its the same.

My monthly RTI FPS shows the tax year, the month and all other info as you mentioned above but does not show the PAY E ref num.

and
my payslips show the PAYE ref number and also the year to date salary and tax paid in addition to the monthly salary and tax deductions.

I guess different softwares generate different versions.
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Re: Query about docs required

Post by Globe Trotter » Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:47 am

Thanks for your kind help and support.

One more thing I have noticed is that the processing date on my salary slip is of the month end i.e. 30-11-2018.

But the HMRC submission confirmation that was given to me by my accountant is dated 27-11-2018. (HMRC has received the HMRC-PAYE-RTI-FPS document ref: xxx/xxxxxxx at 1.20 on 27/11/2018)

It has happened every month with all the reports.

Is it normal that the submission to HMRC has been done 4 days prior to the processing of the salary slips.

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Re: Query about docs required

Post by CULLINAN » Mon Jan 14, 2019 2:08 am

Globe Trotter wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:47 am
Thanks for your kind help and support.

One more thing I have noticed is that the processing date on my salary slip is of the month end i.e. 30-11-2018.

But the HMRC submission confirmation that was given to me by my accountant is dated 27-11-2018. (HMRC has received the HMRC-PAYE-RTI-FPS document ref: xxx/xxxxxxx at 1.20 on 27/11/2018)

It has happened every month with all the reports.

Is it normal that the submission to HMRC has been done 4 days prior to the processing of the salary slips.
Ofcourse that is normal. The accountant submits the RTI FPS a couple days before the “pay date”. He then sends you the required monthly RTI FPS so you can pay your employees on the pay date.
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Re: Query about docs required

Post by Globe Trotter » Tue Jan 15, 2019 1:23 am

Many thanks tier11417 for sharing your knowledge as it has lifted a great burden off my chest.

One more concern is that my RTI/ FPS reports does not have the words 'RTI or FPS' anywhere on them. It only reflects the word 'Payment Summary'.
Will it create a confusion for the case worker and can these documents be passed off as summaries as they will think that FPS and RTI is missing.

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Globe Trotter

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Re: Query about docs required

Post by CULLINAN » Tue Jan 15, 2019 2:18 am

Globe Trotter wrote:
Tue Jan 15, 2019 1:23 am
Many thanks tier11417 for sharing your knowledge as it has lifted a great burden off my chest.

One more concern is that my RTI/ FPS reports does not have the words 'RTI or FPS' anywhere on them. It only reflects the word 'Payment Summary'.
Will it create a confusion for the case worker and can these documents be passed off as summaries as they will think that FPS and RTI is missing.

Kindest regards,
Globe Trotter
I am sorry I am not sure of that as I am not aware of different softwares. As I said, apparently it looks like it has all the info that RTI FPS has but to be sure of it I hope senior members like Marcnath and Zimba can also comment on this.
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Re: Query about docs required

Post by Globe Trotter » Tue Jan 15, 2019 2:40 am

Can any senior please revert on my query:

"My RTI/ FPS reports does not have the words 'RTI or FPS' anywhere on them. It only reflects the word 'Payment Summary'.
Will it create a confusion for the case worker and can these documents be passed off as summaries as they will think that FPS and RTI is missing from my docs".

Regards.

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Re: Query about docs required

Post by Meesha » Wed Jan 16, 2019 11:01 am

well i dont think anyone can advise you about CW's mind. We all have seen cw behave unexpectedly and differently to the same situation. I dont think there is any other way to know this before going through personal experience.
Why dont u contact HMRC to know what RTI FPS they hold for u?
You are confused about it for so long, you could have done it by urself by now.

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Re: Query about docs required

Post by Basel_AH » Wed Jan 16, 2019 4:51 pm

Hello everyone,

I'm also in the same boat and unsure about the correct RTI document. When I asked my accountant for them he provided me with:
- Submissions log
- History report by date
- History report by employee
- Employee pay details
- Employer's RTI schedule (only covers 2018)

My solicitor is saying that these documents hold the needed information but not quite what the guidance is specifying here:

(a) printouts of Real Time Full Payment Submissions showing that the applicant complied with Pay As You Earn (PAYE) reporting requirements to HM Revenue & Customs in respect of each relevant settled worker as legally required, and has done so for the full period of employment used to claim points. These must show every payment made to each settled worker as well as any deductions

Any advise on this would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: Query about docs required

Post by CULLINAN » Wed Jan 16, 2019 5:03 pm

Basel_AH wrote:
Wed Jan 16, 2019 4:51 pm
Hello everyone,

I'm also in the same boat and unsure about the correct RTI document. When I asked my accountant for them he provided me with:
- Submissions log
- History report by date
- History report by employee
- Employee pay details
- Employer's RTI schedule (only covers 2018)

My solicitor is saying that these documents hold the needed information but not quite what the guidance is specifying here:

(a) printouts of Real Time Full Payment Submissions showing that the applicant complied with Pay As You Earn (PAYE) reporting requirements to HM Revenue & Customs in respect of each relevant settled worker as legally required, and has done so for the full period of employment used to claim points. These must show every payment made to each settled worker as well as any deductions

Any advise on this would be greatly appreciated.
Please continue in your own thread as this creates confusion for the OP.
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Re: Query about docs required

Post by Globe Trotter » Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:33 am

Hi,
My entry clearance was refused due to a missing signature, but the decision was overturned in AR and entry clearance was granted.

Do I have to answer "Yes" to the following question:
Travel history (UK)
Have you ever been:
  • refused a visa for the UK
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Post by Meesha » Mon Jan 21, 2019 11:28 am

I would declare it. They also ask reasons in the next column. You can state that it was overturned.

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Re: Query about docs required

Post by Globe Trotter » Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:37 am

Thanks Meesha for your advice. I shall abide by it.

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Re: Query about docs required

Post by Globe Trotter » Wed Jan 23, 2019 2:20 am

Dear Moderators,
Can you please delete my 3 posts mentioned below as it contains sensitive information:
Mon Jan 07, 2019 12:44 am
Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:00 pm
Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:33 am

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Globe Trotter

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Re: Query about docs required

Post by CR001 » Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:32 pm

Globe Trotter wrote:
Wed Jan 23, 2019 2:20 am
Dear Moderators,
Can you please delete my 3 posts mentioned below as it contains sensitive information:
Mon Jan 07, 2019 12:44 am
Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:00 pm
Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:33 am

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I have removed the attachments for both posts of 7th January.

I am unable to see what is 'sensitive information' in the post from 19th January at 4.33am!!
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Re: Query about docs required

Post by Globe Trotter » Thu Jan 24, 2019 12:56 am

Thanks CR001 for your prompt action. It is much appreciated.

The post dated Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:33 am has the reason for my refusal and could be linked to my case as it is a one-off case with such a reason.

Maybe I am overthinking but then again I do not want to take any chance.

If you would be kind enough to delete that post or at-least delete the reason for refusal mentioned in that post.

Kindest regards,
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Re: Query about docs required

Post by Globe Trotter » Sat Jan 26, 2019 7:03 am

Hi,
For my ILR application, do I again need to sit for an IELTS exam?

Or am I exempt from that as I have already been awarded points for that in my last successful application of Extension?

Many thanks.

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Re: Query about docs required

Post by CULLINAN » Sat Jan 26, 2019 2:07 pm

Globe Trotter wrote:
Sat Jan 26, 2019 7:03 am
Hi,
For my ILR application, do I again need to sit for an IELTS exam?

Or am I exempt from that as I have already been awarded points for that in my last successful application of Extension?

Many thanks.
The online form asks for the english requirement although the guidance says otherwise. Not clear. So I would not take the risk and sit again. Make sure you take the trinity Level B1 SELT that is on the approved list. Saving just £150 VS the application fees and stress is not worth it.
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Re: Query about docs required

Post by Globe Trotter » Sun Jan 27, 2019 12:48 am

Many thanks for the revert tier11417.

I have been through the guidelines but have missed the English requirement criteria.

Can you please share the link where it mentions about the English requirement.

Kind regards,

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Re: Query about docs required

Post by CULLINAN » Sun Jan 27, 2019 3:49 am

Globe Trotter wrote:
Sun Jan 27, 2019 12:48 am
Many thanks for the revert tier11417.

I have been through the guidelines but have missed the English requirement criteria.

Can you please share the link where it mentions about the English requirement.

Kind regards,
Tier 1 guidance page 23

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... .01.19.pdf

“Previous demonstration of acceptable English”
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