SET (Protection) Route applications

Raynato · Post by **Raynato** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 4:14 pm

Saniii wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 25, 2018 1:32 pm
Hello just found out about this forum. I submitted my application on the 7th of November after completing 5 years along with my dependant who is my child. The only thing keeping me worried is that I had renewed my country of origins passport after a stupid case worker told me that it’s ok and as long as I don’t travel to my country of origin it’s fine. So I got it renewed and travelled to Dubai couple of times for a few days and as soon as I found out that I was not supposed to travel on my country of origins passport, I surrendered that to Home office and applied for a travel document, which I was given. Now it has been 2 and a half months since I submitted my application for ILR along with my son but I have been very anxious as to what would be the outcome of my application. I have been working, driving paying all my taxes and a law abiding citizen but still don’t know what my future would be. Plz help if anyone have anything relevant to share.

by getting your country passport you availed yourself to you country's protection and this is bad news!
1-can you prove that you have been given a wrong advice by ur case worker? i.e., emails, letters etc
2-can you prove that you have NOT been to your country of origin on your passport? i.e., do you have a tourist visa to UAE endorsed on your country of origin passport? if you have not this will indicate that you may have only used dubai as transit passanger
3-could you explain, not for us obviously, how you re-entered through UK borders on your way back from dubai? did you only have your refugee Residency card and was it ok to produce that with your country of origin passport? this is a very interesting case!

Saniii · Post by **Saniii** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 6:27 pm

Hi, I do not have anything to prove that I had been given a wrong advise as that case worker had convinced me only verbally. UAE don’t necessarily issue you visa on your passport but I do have visa copies both times. My passport did have the entry and exit stamps from Dubai and because I only went to dubai, it has only dubai’s Stamp. Both times when I came back I had to present my residence permit and I wasn’t even asked a single question at the Uk airport.if I had been stopped once I wouldn’t have done this again. I only realised my mistake when I was reading an article again I was issued the travel document without any questions. So now I’m confused. When I spoke to my lawyer who I hired for my ILR, he thinks my case is different as I was a victim of domestic violence and not political asylum

Saniii · Post by **Saniii** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 6:49 pm

Also entry stamp had been put on my passport both times when I entered UK.

Raynato · Post by **Raynato** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:18 pm

I think you have a case, and it is actually different. it seems to me that you dont need to worry much! if they get back to u questioning the matter i guess you should just explain this, and it definitely helps that you have dubai's entry and exit stamps which demonstrate that you have actually been there for the duration . best of luck

Saniii · Post by **Saniii** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 8:28 pm

Thank you and let’s see will keep you updated if they raise any questions. I just don’t understand why they never stopped me when I was entering in the UK back from Dubai both times, and after sending them my valid country of origin’s national passport, and apying for a travel document, that was issued to me straight away.

adncs38 · Post by **adncs38** » Sat Jan 27, 2018 7:27 pm

adncs38 wrote: ↑
Tue Jan 23, 2018 10:22 pm

Raynato wrote: ↑
Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:28 pm

adncs38 wrote: ↑
Tue Jan 23, 2018 7:26 pm

Beowulf wrote: ↑
Tue Jan 23, 2018 5:13 pm
Nope, just a sole application. No dependants at all.
You are very lucky I haven't seen many getting it under 5 months ..... well i wish you good luck ahead in life and enjoy your freedom.

I applied on 29.08.17 hopefully within next 2 weeks i will hear from HO my application is also single no dependants.
I have a feeling you'll get it on tuesday dated on friday 26 ...
That would be amazing ... however lets wait n see friday is not far

So far no joy.... I hope may be by the end of next week

Onesie2017 · Post by **Onesie2017** » Sat Jan 27, 2018 7:36 pm

adncs38 wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 27, 2018 7:27 pm

adncs38 wrote: ↑
Tue Jan 23, 2018 10:22 pm

Raynato wrote: ↑
Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:28 pm

adncs38 wrote: ↑
Tue Jan 23, 2018 7:26 pm

You are very lucky I haven't seen many getting it under 5 months ..... well i wish you good luck ahead in life and enjoy your freedom.

I applied on 29.08.17 hopefully within next 2 weeks i will hear from HO my application is also single no dependants.
I have a feeling you'll get it on tuesday dated on friday 26 ...
That would be amazing ... however lets wait n see friday is not far
So far no joy.... I hope may be by the end of next week

I am with you too, still waiting. I think the wait in this last few days are even harder lol.
Hopefully will share some good news next week. Can’t wait!!!

adncs38 · Post by **adncs38** » Sat Jan 27, 2018 8:58 pm

Onesie2017 wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 27, 2018 7:36 pm

adncs38 wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 27, 2018 7:27 pm

adncs38 wrote: ↑
Tue Jan 23, 2018 10:22 pm

Raynato wrote: ↑
Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:28 pm

I have a feeling you'll get it on tuesday dated on friday 26 ...
That would be amazing ... however lets wait n see friday is not far
So far no joy.... I hope may be by the end of next week
I am with you too, still waiting. I think the wait in this last few days are even harder lol.
Hopefully will share some good news next week. Can’t wait!!!

Fingers crossed .... however i think u will most probably get it in next week mine is 50/50, ideally i think i will get mines by 15th Feb.

sarla · Post by **sarla** » Sat Jan 27, 2018 10:53 pm

Hi, I have just found out about this forum and I need some legal advice. I have a refugee status with residence permit card for 5 years in the UK and still have my national passport. I did not know that I can not use my passport before, and I applied to get a Canadian visa on it which I was granted. I don't know what will happen to me if I used my passport only for one time with my family who are all in the same situation. I don't want to be to rescue my residence here but if it is OK to travel I will go ahead with the plan.

Saniii · Post by **Saniii** » Sun Jan 28, 2018 3:55 pm

Did you get your passport renewed or what? I was retuned my still valid national passport when I was granted refugee leave to remain, and after it expired i got it renewed after a case worker told me that I can and I should as long as I don’t travel to my country of origin. I not only got it renewed but travelled on it as well. The mysterious part is that nobody questioned me ever until I realised this mistake myself and retuned the passport to Home office. I would advice you to not to risk your residency in uk for the sake of a visit to Canada. Seek proper legal advice. As a refugee you should only travel on a travel document

Casa · Post by **Casa** » Sun Jan 28, 2018 4:35 pm

Note: 3.4 Triggers that lead to a review of refugee status
Return to country of origin or obtaining a passport
This will usually indicate voluntary re-availment and may lead to revocation under Paragraph
339A(i)-(vi).

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... _0_EXT.pdf

This is also mentioned in the recent Safe Return policy
https://ukimmigrationjusticewatch.com/2 ... evocation/

If someone who has been granted asylum applies for or travels with a passport issued by a country from which they have previously sought asylum, it could be considered that they are re-availing themselves of protection by that country.

This usually only comes to light when applying for ILR or British citizenship.

Hullu6 · Post by **Hullu6** » Sun Jan 28, 2018 4:38 pm

sarla wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 27, 2018 10:53 pm
Hi, I have just found out about this forum and I need some legal advice. I have a refugee status with residence permit card for 5 years in the UK and still have my national passport. I did not know that I can not use my passport before, and I applied to get a Canadian visa on it which I was granted. I don't know what will happen to me if I used my passport only for one time with my family who are all in the same situation. I don't want to be to rescue my residence here but if it is OK to travel I will go ahead with the plan.

Hey Sarla,

Read page 18 from the link below

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... pdf#page18

I think it is better to apply for travel document.

sarla · Post by **sarla** » Sun Jan 28, 2018 9:27 pm

Saniii wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 28, 2018 3:55 pm
Did you get your passport renewed or what? I was retuned my still valid national passport when I was granted refugee leave to remain, and after it expired i got it renewed after a case worker told me that I can and I should as long as I don’t travel to my country of origin. I not only got it renewed but travelled on it as well. The mysterious part is that nobody questioned me ever until I realised this mistake myself and retuned the passport to Home office. I would advice you to not to risk your residency in uk for the sake of a visit to Canada. Seek proper legal advice. As a refugee you should only travel on a travel document

Hi Saniii, yes I still have my national passport which is still valid. I didn't travel with it after I got the refugee status. Will the visa stamp on it affect my ILR application later on?

sarla · Post by **sarla** » Sun Jan 28, 2018 9:29 pm

Casa wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 28, 2018 4:35 pm
Note: 3.4 Triggers that lead to a review of refugee status
Return to country of origin or obtaining a passport
This will usually indicate voluntary re-availment and may lead to revocation under Paragraph
339A(i)-(vi).

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... _0_EXT.pdf

This is also mentioned in the recent Safe Return policy
https://ukimmigrationjusticewatch.com/2 ... evocation/

If someone who has been granted asylum applies for or travels with a passport issued by a country from which they have previously sought asylum, it could be considered that they are re-availing themselves of protection by that country.

This usually only comes to light when applying for ILR or British citizenship.

Hi Casa,
Do you think the visa stamp will end up in refusing my ILR after I finish the 5 year residency?
When I reach that stage my national passport will be expired

Casa · Post by **Casa** » Sun Jan 28, 2018 9:36 pm

What visa stamp

Showing you travelled outside of the UK with your national passport, after being granted Asylum?

sarla · Post by **sarla** » Sun Jan 28, 2018 10:19 pm

Casa wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 28, 2018 9:36 pm
What visa stamp Showing you travelled outside of the UK with your national passport, after being granted Asylum?

I mean a visa was issued on one page of my passport. As I mentioned before, I didn't know that I can't use my national passport and therefore I applied for a Canadian visa in London which I was granted on my national passport. I didn't travel with my passport.

1stGenMEBrit · Post by **1stGenMEBrit** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:15 pm

lio4u2 wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:41 pm
I'm a Syrian refugee , my leave to remain will expire on March 2018.

I have some questions I will be thankful if anyone can answer them.

1-When waiting for the outcome of the ILR application, do they give me anything that proves that I still
have the right to work & live in the UK until the outcome of my application ?

2- I am on benefits ( housing benefits, child benefits, ETC...) are those benefits going to stop while I'm waiting for my ILR ? What I have to do in this case so my payments won't stop !!!!

3- The new ILR card status and expiry date is going to be the same like my current one ( REFUGEE LIVE TO REMAIN 5 years validity )????

4- Am I going to be able to apply for UK naturalization after one year of receiving my new ILR !!!

Your help will be highly appreciated.
Best regards to everyone and good luck for you all

Hi I can try and help - please do your own research too

1- the letter / email you get from HO is one that you can work and live in the UK. Any employer should know this.

2- as per point 1 above , you status in the UK remains ‘as is’ until your application has been decided - so if you were allowed to work, then you will be able to continue to work until decision is made and same goes for HB CN etc

3- the key is in the name! Indefinite Leave To Remain ILR so has no limit but it has a date one it for a renewal mine had 10 years on it but then never needed it as applied for Natrulisaion shortly after ILR so it didn’t matter anymore

4- that usually the plan! After 1 year of the decision of your ILR you can apply for natrulisation and then become British - therefore ILR becomes irrelevant

Hope this helps

Raynato · Post by **Raynato** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 5:28 pm

any updates from late august, maybe early sept?

adncs38 · Post by **adncs38** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 5:38 pm

Raynato wrote: ↑
Tue Jan 30, 2018 5:28 pm
any updates from late august, maybe early sept?

Nothing so far ......

DRDT · Post by **DRDT** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 5:43 pm

I applied mid September, not expecting anything before end of February, if I am lucky!

Raynato · Post by **Raynato** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 5:55 pm

DRDT wrote: ↑
Tue Jan 30, 2018 5:43 pm
I applied mid September, not expecting anything before end of February, if I am lucky!

if i hear good news from u in 2-3 weeks I'd be happy... 5 months seems like the norm

Raynato · Post by **Raynato** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 5:56 pm

adncs38 wrote: ↑
Tue Jan 30, 2018 5:38 pm

Raynato wrote: ↑
Tue Jan 30, 2018 5:28 pm
any updates from late august, maybe early sept?
Nothing so far ......

thats not cool

Onesie2017 · Post by **Onesie2017** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 6:29 pm

Raynato wrote: ↑
Tue Jan 30, 2018 5:56 pm

adncs38 wrote: ↑
Tue Jan 30, 2018 5:38 pm

Raynato wrote: ↑
Tue Jan 30, 2018 5:28 pm
any updates from late august, maybe early sept?
Nothing so far ......
thats not cool

Still nothing yet. Applied on the 14th of August. I am starting to worry now

kassa · Post by **kassa** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 6:36 pm

Let keep it together and be strong to the last month, days, hours, .... of waiting. As for me another painful 2 months on the clock. It seems like an eternity for me

Saniii · Post by **Saniii** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 6:57 pm

What was the date you applied

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