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Re: Submitted date vs Appointment date?

Post by Andy12 » Thu Nov 15, 2018 9:16 pm

Jen1986 wrote:
Mon Nov 12, 2018 10:52 pm

Hi,
Was your applicaiton successful with your paper set o form? which premium service centre?
i booked the appointment on 23rd Oct and payment was taken on 24th Oct. The appointment is on 28th Nov.
and i just found out that after 1st Nov that everyone needs to apply online with the online set o form. I am now so worried and do not know what to do. Thanks

Hi Jen1986,

Yes my application was approved, and I did use the paper form - Set O. The full details of my experience is here in this forum - indefinite-leave-to-remain/information- ... y#p1702049

Good luck with yours.

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Re: Submitted date vs Appointment date?

Post by HarryN » Thu Nov 15, 2018 10:14 pm

Hi Mrunal,

Yes I applied under that category.

With the new online system, it is just about filling up the form, paying the amount first and then booking the appointment, uploading the list of documents (as per the checklist provided with your application form).
On the day of appointment, carry one set of hard copy of all the documents uploaded (and a photo if asked in checklist). The officer at the centre will basically check if all the documents uploaded are right, take biometrics and then you can leave.

So with the new system it is hassle free submission of documents, but no clarity on when the result will be provided. Will update as soon as I receive one.

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Re: Submitted date vs Appointment date?

Post by Mrunal » Thu Nov 15, 2018 11:11 pm

Hey Harry,

Thank for your response. Hope u get the good news soon!!
Just a few more queries. At which super premium centre did u apply? I am assuming that the 45 days rule no longer holds true after nov, my 28 days eligibility period starts from 11Jan '18. So, can i fill the form SET(O) online say on 7th or 8th Jan, then as it says to take an appt within 5 days of applying, i take an appt on or after 11th Jan =. The nearest core service centre to me is croydon & by Nov end other enhanced service centres will also open up, but i don know the difference between Core & enhanced service centres. Can i use super premium option at all the centres or only the Enhanced service centres?

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Re: Submitted date vs Appointment date?

Post by allyf » Thu Nov 15, 2018 11:50 pm

Mrunal wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 11:11 pm
Hey Harry,

Thank for your response. Hope u get the good news soon!!
Just a few more queries. At which super premium centre did u apply? I am assuming that the 45 days rule no longer holds true after nov, my 28 days eligibility period starts from 11Jan '18. So, can i fill the form SET(O) online say on 7th or 8th Jan, then as it says to take an appt within 5 days of applying, i take an appt on or after 11th Jan =. The nearest core service centre to me is croydon & by Nov end other enhanced service centres will also open up, but i don know the difference between Core & enhanced service centres. Can i use super premium option at all the centres or only the Enhanced service centres?
Hi Mrunal, I’m wondering the same thing as you...how soon can one apply? My 28 day qualifying period starts dec 18...but does that mean I need to apply ONLY as of dec 18..I have a feeling the answer is yes. As much as I want to upload documents earlier !! I’m applying SET M, and not really sure if core and enhanced centers offer scanning for us? Not entirely sure of the difference..hopefully Harry can shed some more light for us? Thank you both!

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Re: Submitted date vs Appointment date?

Post by mahmoudsayed86 » Thu Nov 22, 2018 1:05 pm

I am in the same situation: I have submitted my online application on 4 November 2018 but I am only qualified to apply for ILR on 5 December. My appointment has been already booked for 5 December and now I am unsure whether I applied prematurely or the date of appointment is considered the day of application.

I called the UKVI twice, two different individuals replied to me and both confirmed that the date of application s the date of appointment. Yet, of course, I cannot take that 'chat' for granted although they both confirmed they are sure!

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Re: Submitted date vs Appointment date?

Post by JulianaCG » Thu Nov 22, 2018 9:54 pm

sriaccount wrote:
Wed Nov 14, 2018 11:42 am
Date of Premium service appointment is your date of application. My ILR just approved today
I have submitted online application on 5th October but I am eligible from 6th November for ILR so I have booked my premium appointment on 14th November.

Many thanks for all your support from this Group
Hi, is this through the news system Sopra?

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Re: Submitted date vs Appointment date?

Post by mahmoudsayed86 » Thu Nov 22, 2018 10:38 pm

JulianaCG wrote:
Thu Nov 22, 2018 9:54 pm
sriaccount wrote:
Wed Nov 14, 2018 11:42 am
Date of Premium service appointment is your date of application. My ILR just approved today
I have submitted online application on 5th October but I am eligible from 6th November for ILR so I have booked my premium appointment on 14th November.

Many thanks for all your support from this Group
Hi, is this through the news system Sopra?
Thanks very much and congratulations! did you apply using the new system? with the new Sopra system and new visa centers?

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Re: Submitted date vs Appointment date?

Post by mahmoudsayed86 » Thu Nov 22, 2018 10:44 pm

JulianaCG wrote:
Thu Nov 22, 2018 9:54 pm
sriaccount wrote:
Wed Nov 14, 2018 11:42 am
Date of Premium service appointment is your date of application. My ILR just approved today
I have submitted online application on 5th October but I am eligible from 6th November for ILR so I have booked my premium appointment on 14th November.

Many thanks for all your support from this Group
Hi, is this through the news system Sopra?
I presume no because on 5th October the new system was not yet launched, we still need to ensure that this is still the case under the new system :(

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Re: Submitted date vs Appointment date?

Post by JulianaCG » Sat Nov 24, 2018 4:31 pm

I presume no because on 5th October the new system was not yet launched, we still need to ensure that this is still the case under the new system :(
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What should we do to rectify our online application? do we cancel this and re-apply?

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Re: Submitted date vs Appointment date?

Post by mahmoudsayed86 » Sun Nov 25, 2018 12:35 pm

JulianaCG wrote:
Sat Nov 24, 2018 4:31 pm
I presume no because on 5th October the new system was not yet launched, we still need to ensure that this is still the case under the new system :(
What should we do to rectify our online application? do we cancel this and re-apply?
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I called the UKVI 3 times asking about this and they confirmed that no way to change any details in the application once submitted. If you cancel the application, you would lose the £3,018 you paid. They advised me to write a cover letter to the caseworker explaining the situation and submit it within the supporting documents but they said they cannot be sure about the outcome.

But this was their response to another mistake I did in the online application. However, they confirmed that the date of application is the date of appointment but I am still unsure about that

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Re: Submitted date vs Appointment date?

Post by naveediiqbal » Sun Nov 25, 2018 1:04 pm

mahmoudsayed86 wrote:
Sun Nov 25, 2018 12:35 pm
JulianaCG wrote:
Sat Nov 24, 2018 4:31 pm
I presume no because on 5th October the new system was not yet launched, we still need to ensure that this is still the case under the new system :(
What should we do to rectify our online application? do we cancel this and re-apply?
I called the UKVI 3 times asking about this and they confirmed that no way to change any details in the application once submitted. If you cancel the application, you would lose the £3,018 you paid. They advised me to write a cover letter to the caseworker explaining the situation and submit it within the supporting documents but they said they cannot be sure about the outcome.

But this was their response to another mistake I did in the online application. However, they confirmed that the date of application is the date of appointment but I am still unsure about that
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I am unsure why they say the date of appointment is the date of application whereas on the PBS guidance July 18 page 9 clearly says for online application (which is the only option under the new system) is when the application is submitted (as you can not amend any information post that date) and the fee is submitted.

Date of application
43. The date of your application will be taken to be the following:
For applications made in the United Kingdom:
• where the application form is sent by post, the date of posting; or
• where the application form is sent by courier, the date on which it is delivered to the Home
Office;
• where the application form is submitted online, the date when you submit your application
form and pay your application fee online.

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Re: Submitted date vs Appointment date?

Post by oldmankensey » Sun Nov 25, 2018 1:11 pm

my only hope is that the HO will be seeing a spate of these slightly early applications this and next month as online becomes the only application method and they choose to be a little flexible as long as the appointment comes in the valid window.

the HO being flexible. Yeah right...

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Re: Submitted date vs Appointment date?

Post by naveediiqbal » Sun Nov 25, 2018 1:15 pm

naveediiqbal wrote:
Sun Nov 25, 2018 1:04 pm
mahmoudsayed86 wrote:
Sun Nov 25, 2018 12:35 pm
JulianaCG wrote:
Sat Nov 24, 2018 4:31 pm
I presume no because on 5th October the new system was not yet launched, we still need to ensure that this is still the case under the new system :(
What should we do to rectify our online application? do we cancel this and re-apply?
I called the UKVI 3 times asking about this and they confirmed that no way to change any details in the application once submitted. If you cancel the application, you would lose the £3,018 you paid. They advised me to write a cover letter to the caseworker explaining the situation and submit it within the supporting documents but they said they cannot be sure about the outcome.

But this was their response to another mistake I did in the online application. However, they confirmed that the date of application is the date of appointment but I am still unsure about that
I understand that for;

The main applicant its date of appointment (Applications for leave to remain; page 18)

The date of application for online applications is the date it is submitted via the online
process.
This date of application applies even where the applicant subsequently chooses to or is asked to, attend an in-person appointment.

and

For dependents is the date of application whereas on the PBS guidance July 18 page 9 clearly says for online application (which is the only option under the new system) is when the application is submitted (as you can not amend any information post that date) and the fee is submitted.

Date of application
43. The date of your application will be taken to be the following:
For applications made in the United Kingdom:
• where the application form is sent by post, the date of posting; or
• where the application form is sent by courier, the date on which it is delivered to the Home
Office;
• where the application form is submitted online, the date when you submit your application
form and pay your application fee online.

[/quote]

Hope that helps, I hope you will be good

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Re: Submitted date vs Appointment date?

Post by naveediiqbal » Sun Nov 25, 2018 1:58 pm

The date of application for online applications is the date it is submitted via the online
process. This date of application applies even where the applicant subsequently chooses to,
or is asked to, attend an in-person appointment.

When applying online, an applicant can choose to make an appointment at a premium service centre to submit their proof of identity, passport photos and supporting evidence in person. An applicant may also be requested by the Home Office to attend an appointment. Any appointment must be usually made and
attended within 45 business days of submission of the application online. The date with a premium appointment is when its submitted in person.

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Re: Submitted date vs Appointment date?

Post by mahmoudsayed86 » Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:05 pm

Hi all

I finally got my BRP!!!!!!!!!!!! I am so relieved because now I can travel for xmas

,My time line is as follows:

I applied on 5 November 2018

I was entitled to apply starting 4th December

My appointment in Mark Lane was 5 December

I have not received any letters or emails, BRP just received today dated 6 December

My route is Set(O) Tier 2 General

I would also like to assure those who question whether applying (i.e. submitting online application) before you are entitled is a problem, I did that and there was no problem at all.

ANy questions please ask and I would be so happy to answer

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Re: Submitted date vs Appointment date?

Post by lifeRockss1 » Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:24 pm

Congrats mahmoudsayed86,

Did you go for premium service? if so were you told about your decision on same day?
Considering you received your BRP next day I assume the answer is yes and yes but just want to confirm.
Also, was 4th December
A) Your Visa Start date - 28 days or
B) Your first entry to UK - 28 days?

Cheers
-LR

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Re: Submitted date vs Appointment date?

Post by JulianaCG » Tue Dec 18, 2018 11:49 am

Just to update you all the I got my ILR BRP today!!!

I applied online Nov 19, i was eligible to apply on Nov 22 (28 days before my 5 year anniversary) My appointment is Dec 12th.

I explained on my cover letter that I applied too early online (few days) and that the day of my appointment is within the 28 days period.

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Re: Submitted date vs Appointment date?

Post by mahmoudsayed86 » Tue Dec 18, 2018 12:01 pm

lifeRockss1 wrote:
Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:24 pm
Congrats mahmoudsayed86,

Did you go for premium service? if so were you told about your decision on same day?
Considering you received your BRP next day I assume the answer is yes and yes but just want to confirm.
Also, was 4th December
A) Your Visa Start date - 28 days or
B) Your first entry to UK - 28 days?

Cheers
-LR
Thanks
I went for Sopra Steria new service in London premium lounge

The decision was communicated 5 days after my appointment but the date of the ILR was next day after my appointment.

My appointment was 5 December which is within 28 days of the fifth anniversary of my visa start date

I entered the UK 609 days after the start date of my entry clearance visa

I hope this helps

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Re: Submitted date vs Appointment date?

Post by mahmoudsayed86 » Tue Dec 18, 2018 12:02 pm

mahmoudsayed86 wrote:
Tue Dec 18, 2018 12:01 pm
lifeRockss1 wrote:
Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:24 pm
Congrats mahmoudsayed86,

Did you go for premium service? if so were you told about your decision on same day?
Considering you received your BRP next day I assume the answer is yes and yes but just want to confirm.
Also, was 4th December
A) Your Visa Start date - 28 days or
B) Your first entry to UK - 28 days?

Cheers
-LR
Thanks
I went for Sopra Steria new service in London premium lounge

The decision was communicated 5 days after my appointment but the date of the ILR was next day after my appointment.

My appointment was 5 December which is within 28 days of the fifth anniversary of my visa start date

I entered the UK 609 days after the start date of my entry clearance visa

I hope this helps
sorry there was a type: i entered the UK 60 days after the start date of my visa , obviously not 609!!!

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Re: Submitted date vs Appointment date?

Post by lifeRockss1 » Tue Dec 18, 2018 4:01 pm

thanks for your reply mate appreciate it.

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