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British Irish Council & The Schengen Agreement

Post by limey » Mon Jul 16, 2007 11:53 pm

So sign up to Schengen…

The most interesting point to emerge from today’s optically orientated 9th meeting of the British Irish Council wasn’t the quibbling about the financial package - it ain’t going to change significantly - it was the mention of gaps in security, which Dermot Ahern stated was referring to the Schengen Agreement.. and Gordon Brown agrees. The Alliance Party have previously made mention of this Agreement but the focus appears to be on different proposals than those presented by that party. [It actually seems to be a reference to the Prüm Convention [Schengen III] - Ed]. Bertie Ahern is in agreement.. although no-one seems to have acknowledged other gaps.. But why not just fully implement the Schengen Agreement and the subsequent protocols? The Wikipedia entry suggests two reasons why that would not be acceptable to either of the polities concerned.

The United Kingdom and Republic of Ireland are the only two EU members not to fully implement the Schengen Agreement; Ireland and the UK share a Common Travel Area with no border controls between the two. Ireland is thus unable to join the Schengen Agreement without dissolving this agreement with the UK - and therefore Northern Ireland. However the UK remains reluctant to surrender its own border controls and work permit system. Therefore United Kingdom and Republic of Ireland are signatories of the Council Decision (covering police co-operation) but not the Council Regulations (covering asylum, visas and border controls).
Pete Baker


See here. It is a forum if u want to post a response...
http://sluggerotoole.com/index.php/webl ... -schengen/

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Re: British Irish Council & The Schengen Agreement

Post by JAJ » Tue Jul 17, 2007 3:43 am

limey wrote:But why not just fully implement the Schengen Agreement and the subsequent protocols?
Because the United Kingdom would then be defenceless against illegal migration from continental Europe.

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Post by limey » Tue Jul 17, 2007 10:54 am

JAJ: I did not write this article.

But posted it here to let people know that it is being discussed by the British Irish Council.

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Post by Dawie » Wed Jul 18, 2007 4:32 pm

However the UK remains reluctant to surrender its own border controls and work permit system.
This is incorrect. The Schengen agreement does not cover work permits which still remain the responsibility of each individual government. The Schengen agreement only governs tourist and business visit visas.
In a few years time we'll look back on immigration control like we look back on American prohibition in the thirties - futile and counter-productive.

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