Bippin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 2:27 pm
Because I saw some posters here quite while ago ( but I couldn't remember their username) brought their parents here with UK visitor visa then successfully on Irish residences card here and now they brought their parents back to UK . So I posted just incase that person who brought their parents this way might see my question and could answer this how they did it. But it didn't matter now as my friend already in the process of appealing.Thanks.
Here are the big issues you will face, as many others have recently.
1. To get a UK visitor visa, they have to prove they have strong ties to home country and are relatively independent. They have to prove their income, propety, family and social ties etc for example. As she has tried the settlement visa already and failed, her mom no longer qualifies for a visitor visa as her intention to settle and remain in the UK is now known.
2. They still need a visa to enter Ireland. Entering through Northern Ireland land border will mean they have no status in Republic of Ireland. Assuming the mom can get a UK visitor visa, which she won't.
3. To get the RC in Ireland, you have to prove they are dependent on the British citizen. Which they clearly aren't if they proved the opposite for a UK visitor visa, if she can get a visitor visa.
4. The UK and Irish authorities share immigration information. So you can be sure that the Irish authorities will know when RC is applied for, that the parent proved the opposite of dependence to get a UK visitor visa, if she got one. The Irish authorities will also know that the mother applied for and failed to get an adult dependent relative visa for the UK.
There are many RC for parents or extended family on the forum who have tried this and failed and stuck in limbo. Years of process and still nothing. Without the RC in Ireland, almost impossible to return to the UK as the parents won't have legal status in Ireland to apply for a family permit back to the UK. And of course the UK will see what you have tried to do, ie circumvent the UK immigration rules, which is evident as your friend has already tried and failed to apply for a settlement visa for parents and with a refused settlement visa, the parent is unlikely to get a visitor visa for the UK again anyway, that door has been shut now.
The UK and Ireland are very aware of the large scale abuse of this route by mostly newly naturalised British citizens to bring many extended and direct family from home country to the UK by visitor visa and to Ireland and then back to the UK via surinder Singh route. It certainly is substantially harder than it was a number of years ago and of course now there is brexit, which means your friend likely doesn't have enough time for this entire process to prove he has moved his centre of life to Ireland for a number of months or years, in order to move back to the UK under the EEA/EU rules with dependent family.
This whole scenario, if she tries and fails, will still keep the door shut for any future UK visitor visas for her parents, a) due to what she is trying and b) because of the failed settlement application already made.
