Children naturalization application

wec1979 · Post by **wec1979** » Tue Feb 09, 2021 1:02 pm

johnpromise01 wrote: ↑
Tue Feb 09, 2021 12:50 pm

Ali112 wrote: ↑
Tue Feb 09, 2021 12:36 pm
Any Update regarding Minor Applications ?

I am loosing a great opportunity somewhere else and JUST my son's application is causing delay and i may loose the opportunity too.

I have contacted them BUT as usual ! same copy past !!
I still didn't understand why the delay for minors application. Minors don't require garda checks etc. They really need to up their game and hire more staffs. Applications for minor should even be the fastest to get a decision.

The minor applications have been ignored.

Ali112 · Post by **Ali112** » Tue Feb 09, 2021 1:15 pm

wec1979 wrote: ↑
Tue Feb 09, 2021 1:02 pm

johnpromise01 wrote: ↑
Tue Feb 09, 2021 12:50 pm

Ali112 wrote: ↑
Tue Feb 09, 2021 12:36 pm
Any Update regarding Minor Applications ?

I am loosing a great opportunity somewhere else and JUST my son's application is causing delay and i may loose the opportunity too.

I have contacted them BUT as usual ! same copy past !!
I still didn't understand why the delay for minors application. Minors don't require garda checks etc. They really need to up their game and hire more staffs. Applications for minor should even be the fastest to get a decision.
The minor applications have been ignored.

That's Ridiculous !!! i mean my son was born here ! my ex is also naturalized Irish and myself ! they should have change the stone age law dealing with minors

phoenix49 · Post by **phoenix49** » Tue Feb 09, 2021 3:13 pm

I have applied for my child's citizenship application back in summer, but I can tell it could take a very long time until my son gets the certificate. Now me & my wife are both Irish citizens and I was wondering if I need to update the status for my son? Should I apply for EU Treaty Rights or it is not necessary? I suppose with that card, it'd be easier to travel out and back since he won't need a reentry visa.

Ali112 · Post by **Ali112** » Tue Feb 09, 2021 4:18 pm

phoenix49 wrote: ↑
Tue Feb 09, 2021 3:13 pm
I have applied for my child's citizenship application back in summer, but I can tell it could take a very long time until my son gets the certificate. Now me & my wife are both Irish citizens and I was wondering if I need to update the status for my son? Should I apply for EU Treaty Rights or it is not necessary? I suppose with that card, it'd be easier to travel out and back since he won't need a reentry visa.

well inform them that you are both got naturalization and i hope that may push the application a bit !! I mean these children applications are easy to deal with and honestly this bother many many families who are waiting for their kids !
My son has some sort of autism and here i can't get any assistance neither family support nor Health everything is now just COVID COVID COVID ! i got an opportunity which is hard to miss and my son would get better health treatment but ! as my own experience with the system here is to just punish everyone !! i am not sure if its me or many over here , that i feel that all those working in immigration just intentionally make soo much hurdle or difficulties for people who have lived here , worked here and been a contributor to the society !! they attitude is to refuse or make difficult as much as possible.
I don't see anyone who has been happy dealing with them from professionals to someone who brought good name to the state.

Syjem · Post by **Syjem** » Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:56 am

Was wondering if anyone has received their children certificate from those approved in Nov 2020?

iceice304 · Post by **iceice304** » Thu Feb 11, 2021 12:03 pm

I submitted fee and photographs in Nov and still awaiting. For the minors the delay in issuing the certificate is unimaginable and reveals the state of affairs in this department and efficiency of govt as a whole.

Ali112 · Post by **Ali112** » Thu Feb 11, 2021 12:54 pm

iceice304 wrote: ↑
Thu Feb 11, 2021 12:03 pm
I submitted fee and photographs in Nov and still awaiting. For the minors the delay in issuing the certificate is unimaginable and reveals the state of affairs in this department and efficiency of govt as a whole.

True !!
I have been asked to provide same thing for like 3 time NO IDEA if they are loosing the documents ? or SIMPLY THEY JUST DONT CARE at all !!
In my last comm in November 2020 , I have sent them almost 4 kg of documents from every single slips from the day my son was borned till 2020 including his Autism report !!! this is what they do with some one !!

Its been 17 months i have applied and it is well in advance stage but NO reply !!

TO ALL those are waiting i would recomend send an emaik directly to Minister who is herself going to become a mother soon and ALSO your local TD which i am going to do it again !! get them pressure and if we all do it i am sure this will be at least heard in the department.

cooljester · Post by **cooljester** » Sun Feb 14, 2021 6:54 am

Sheh1984 wrote: ↑
Tue Feb 02, 2021 10:29 am
Hi guys. I got both my minor kids naturalisation approval in first week of November 2020 I send them the required 200 euro each fees and other documents etc in order to receive naturalisation certificate. I haven't heard anything since. It normally takes 6 weeks but not sure May be taking to long due to covid?. I sent the fees draft etc through registered post. It says delivered in first week of Nov. Should I email them??. Thanks for the help

I am on the same boat withyou , got approval at late of october, and sending the bank draft+ childrens'photo in November 20

I emailed them after 6 weeks periods passed, got this reply few days ago, I am not sure the best action
whether to do constant follow up or leave them at peace for sometime

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Ali112 · Post by **Ali112** » Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:39 am

I have emailed the department last week after almost 15 Months applying my son's citizenship and this is what i got from them

" Your application on behalf of your child continues to be processed. Please
note that due to the current restrictions our office has a limited number
of staff and we are not working as efficiently as we would like to be to
produce naturalisation certificates. Your patience at this time is required

Regards

Citizenship Helpdesk
Team 4"

Any one any IDEA !!

I am burning with ANGER as i am loosing my patience ! need to get out from here ASAP as i am missing a great opportunity because i am STUCK here

wec1979 · Post by **wec1979** » Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:43 pm

Ali112 wrote: ↑
Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:39 am
I have emailed the department last week after almost 15 Months applying my son's citizenship and this is what i got from them

" Your application on behalf of your child continues to be processed. Please
note that due to the current restrictions our office has a limited number
of staff and we are not working as efficiently as we would like to be to
produce naturalisation certificates. Your patience at this time is required

Regards

Citizenship Helpdesk
Team 4"

Any one any IDEA !!

I am burning with ANGER as i am loosing my patience ! need to get out from here ASAP as i am missing a great opportunity because i am STUCK here

I think that it's not good news. I had been asked to provide letter from school again after I got replies "continue to processe. I got reply "being processed with a view to establishing" after I submitted the documents.

Ali112 · Post by **Ali112** » Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:29 pm

wec1979 wrote: ↑
Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:43 pm

Ali112 wrote: ↑
Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:39 am
I have emailed the department last week after almost 15 Months applying my son's citizenship and this is what i got from them

" Your application on behalf of your child continues to be processed. Please
note that due to the current restrictions our office has a limited number
of staff and we are not working as efficiently as we would like to be to
produce naturalisation certificates. Your patience at this time is required

Regards

Citizenship Helpdesk
Team 4"

Any one any IDEA !!

I am burning with ANGER as i am loosing my patience ! need to get out from here ASAP as i am missing a great opportunity because i am STUCK here
I think that it's not good news. I had been asked to provide letter from school again after I got replies "continue to processe. I got reply "being processed with a view to establishing" after I submitted the documents.

Well in November 2020 ,i've got a letter saying to provide the school letter which i already provided THREE time ! also to mentioned just checked the letter says " on receiving the requested document we will submit it to minister"
I sent them the letter straight away not just that BUT 4.5 KG OF DOCUMENTS
my son is autistic (full 148 pages of document for them to read )
ALL THE HSE LETTERS SINCE HE WAS BORN FROM 2013 TILL DATE
ALL THE F...KING HOSPITAL LETTERS
ALL THE APPOINTMENT
ALL THE SCHOOL CARD RESULTS
EVEN THE PHARMACY RECEIPT ON HIS NAME

AND i did advised them that I AM GOING THROUGH LOT OF STRESS AS A SINGLE FATHER WORKING FROM HOME IN VERY DEMANDING JOB AND MAINTAINING MY SON'S NEED SAME TIME WITH SCHOOL WITH NO SUPPORT AND ON TOP OF THAT THEY FU...KING KEEP BOTHERING ME ! I HAVE ENOUGH IN MY LIFE !
WHAT THE HELL THEY NEED TO IDENTIFY FOR SMALL CHILD WITH MENTAL DISABILITY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HONESTLY THIS COUNTRY I BELIEVE PEOPLE IN THESE DEPARTMENT HAVE NO BLODY BRAIN !!!!!
WELL ATLEAST SINCE NOVEMBER I GOT NOTHING !!!!!!!!!!!!

THIS MINISTER FOR JUSTICE WHO IS HERSELF BECOMING MOTHER ! BUT NO CLUE HOW PEOPLE'S LIFE BEEN IMOPACTED BY HER SHITE DEPARTMENT

Post by **CR001** » Thu Feb 18, 2021 3:06 pm

Ali112 wrote: ↑
Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:29 pm

wec1979 wrote: ↑
Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:43 pm

Ali112 wrote: ↑
Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:39 am
I have emailed the department last week after almost 15 Months applying my son's citizenship and this is what i got from them

" Your application on behalf of your child continues to be processed. Please
note that due to the current restrictions our office has a limited number
of staff and we are not working as efficiently as we would like to be to
produce naturalisation certificates. Your patience at this time is required

Regards

Citizenship Helpdesk
Team 4"

Any one any IDEA !!

I am burning with ANGER as i am loosing my patience ! need to get out from here ASAP as i am missing a great opportunity because i am STUCK here
I think that it's not good news. I had been asked to provide letter from school again after I got replies "continue to processe. I got reply "being processed with a view to establishing" after I submitted the documents.
Well in November 2020 ,i've got a letter saying to provide the school letter which i already provided THREE time ! also to mentioned just checked the letter says " on receiving the requested document we will submit it to minister"
I sent them the letter straight away not just that BUT 4.5 KG OF DOCUMENTS
my son is autistic (full 148 pages of document for them to read )
ALL THE HSE LETTERS SINCE HE WAS BORN FROM 2013 TILL DATE
ALL THE F...KING HOSPITAL LETTERS
ALL THE APPOINTMENT
ALL THE SCHOOL CARD RESULTS
EVEN THE PHARMACY RECEIPT ON HIS NAME

AND i did advised them that I AM GOING THROUGH LOT OF STRESS AS A SINGLE FATHER WORKING FROM HOME IN VERY DEMANDING JOB AND MAINTAINING MY SON'S NEED SAME TIME WITH SCHOOL WITH NO SUPPORT AND ON TOP OF THAT THEY FU...KING KEEP BOTHERING ME ! I HAVE ENOUGH IN MY LIFE !
WHAT THE HELL THEY NEED TO IDENTIFY FOR SMALL CHILD WITH MENTAL DISABILITY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HONESTLY THIS COUNTRY I BELIEVE PEOPLE IN THESE DEPARTMENT HAVE NO BLODY BRAIN !!!!!
WELL ATLEAST SINCE NOVEMBER I GOT NOTHING !!!!!!!!!!!!

THIS MINISTER FOR JUSTICE WHO IS HERSELF BECOMING MOTHER ! BUT NO CLUE HOW PEOPLE'S LIFE BEEN IMOPACTED BY HER SHITE DEPARTMENT

Please do NOT post in CAPITAL letters. It is the same as SHOUTING and very difficult to read!!!

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Ali112 · Post by **Ali112** » Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:19 pm

Did anybody got any Update regarding their children's naturalisation application ?

any positive news ?

I knew a solicitor (or may be immigration consultant) , he was ex immigration officer and also worked in Naturalization office.

As per his update : The people in their office are useless or don't even bother to work much , files are kept on desk for ages, no update are put in systems at all !

As per him most of the people working in the office are known or relative to existing or ex TDs or ministers and have no qualification to do the job and its simple if you go to any countries most of their Key departments i.e. Immigration, Naturalisation , Security etc.. are located in the capital or financial capital of that country But he mentioned just think why naturalization is in a small town tipperarry ? even the building is own by a ex TD so its all down incompetent people in the offices and those who've recruited them .
I am also working remotely and many others and i don't see their company are crying that we busy etc....

According to the man who've once in the office in tipperarry that the max one person work there is max max is 1 hour a day !!

So good luck to all !

johnpromise01 · Post by **johnpromise01** » Tue Mar 02, 2021 9:49 am

Ali112 wrote: ↑
Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:19 pm
Did anybody got any Update regarding their children's naturalisation application ?

any positive news ?

I knew a solicitor (or may be immigration consultant) , he was ex immigration officer and also worked in Naturalization office.

As per his update : The people in their office are useless or don't even bother to work much , files are kept on desk for ages, no update are put in systems at all !

As per him most of the people working in the office are known or relative to existing or ex TDs or ministers and have no qualification to do the job and its simple if you go to any countries most of their Key departments i.e. Immigration, Naturalisation , Security etc.. are located in the capital or financial capital of that country But he mentioned just think why naturalization is in a small town tipperarry ? even the building is own by a ex TD so its all down incompetent people in the offices and those who've recruited them .
I am also working remotely and many others and i don't see their company are crying that we busy etc....

According to the man who've once in the office in tipperarry that the max one person work there is max max is 1 hour a day !!

So good luck to all !

You have to be very careful with this unsubstantiated allegations. Remember your IP address

kiss300 · Post by **kiss300** » Thu Mar 04, 2021 9:21 pm

Was about to ask the same thing. Did my application on the 5th is of November and biometric on the 21 of November and ever since not heard anything.

Do we have expects who can predict when I will get mine. I have seen people who did theirs on the 2nd November get their registration certificate.

Sheh1984 · Post by **Sheh1984** » Tue Mar 09, 2021 9:19 am

cooljester wrote: ↑
Sun Feb 14, 2021 6:54 am

Sheh1984 wrote: ↑
Tue Feb 02, 2021 10:29 am
Hi guys. I got both my minor kids naturalisation approval in first week of November 2020 I send them the required 200 euro each fees and other documents etc in order to receive naturalisation certificate. I haven't heard anything since. It normally takes 6 weeks but not sure May be taking to long due to covid?. I sent the fees draft etc through registered post. It says delivered in first week of Nov. Should I email them??. Thanks for the help
I am on the same boat withyou , got approval at late of october, and sending the bank draft+ childrens'photo in November 20

I emailed them after 6 weeks periods passed, got this reply few days ago, I am not sure the best action
whether to do constant follow up or leave them at peace for sometime

► Show Spoiler
According to An Post track and trace your post was delivered to our office
on the XXXXXXXX

The Division, like everyone in the State, has been impacted by the
restrictions imposed by the COVID-19 healthcare crisis. The restrictions
imposed have resulted in all Citizenship staff working remotely with
minimal access to the Office. Obviously these restrictions are outside of
the control of the division and have resulted in significant delays in
dealing with correspondence received in the Office and have had a negative
impact on processing times for all applications as the Division adjusts to
working in the current environment. The processing of the applications is
further impacted by the ability of Citizenship to contact other bodies,
many of whom will be negatively impacted by COVID-19.

I can confirm that the Division has engaged in concentrated effort to
process and complete all cases that remain outstanding for a considerable
period of time. Your patience in this matter is appreciated.

Hi its start of march now and I'm still awaiting my kids naturalisation certificates. As mentioned earlier I sent the fees and photos at the start of Nov 2020. I emailed them twice but go no answer. Don't know what else to do it's 5 months now since I got their approval letters.

Ali112 · Post by **Ali112** » Tue Mar 09, 2021 9:21 am

Sheh1984 wrote: ↑
Tue Mar 09, 2021 9:19 am

cooljester wrote: ↑
Sun Feb 14, 2021 6:54 am

Sheh1984 wrote: ↑
Tue Feb 02, 2021 10:29 am
Hi guys. I got both my minor kids naturalisation approval in first week of November 2020 I send them the required 200 euro each fees and other documents etc in order to receive naturalisation certificate. I haven't heard anything since. It normally takes 6 weeks but not sure May be taking to long due to covid?. I sent the fees draft etc through registered post. It says delivered in first week of Nov. Should I email them??. Thanks for the help
I am on the same boat withyou , got approval at late of october, and sending the bank draft+ childrens'photo in November 20

I emailed them after 6 weeks periods passed, got this reply few days ago, I am not sure the best action
whether to do constant follow up or leave them at peace for sometime

► Show Spoiler
According to An Post track and trace your post was delivered to our office
on the XXXXXXXX

The Division, like everyone in the State, has been impacted by the
restrictions imposed by the COVID-19 healthcare crisis. The restrictions
imposed have resulted in all Citizenship staff working remotely with
minimal access to the Office. Obviously these restrictions are outside of
the control of the division and have resulted in significant delays in
dealing with correspondence received in the Office and have had a negative
impact on processing times for all applications as the Division adjusts to
working in the current environment. The processing of the applications is
further impacted by the ability of Citizenship to contact other bodies,
many of whom will be negatively impacted by COVID-19.

I can confirm that the Division has engaged in concentrated effort to
process and complete all cases that remain outstanding for a considerable
period of time. Your patience in this matter is appreciated.

Hi its start of march now and I'm still awaiting my kids naturalisation certificates. As mentioned earlier I sent the fees and photos at the start of Nov 2020. I emailed them twice but go no answer. Don't know what else to do it's 5 months now since I got their approval letters.

well they should have sent you the cert ! what is the timeline if you don't mind me to ask ?
as i said they are just idle and care less when it comes to minor application !

Sheh1984 · Post by **Sheh1984** » Tue Mar 09, 2021 9:57 am

Hi applied May 2019,
Approval Oct 2020,
Sent documents plus fee Nov 2020
Awaiting naturalisation cert,

Did anyone who got their kids approval in Oct / Nov 2020 get their naturalisation certificates?.

Ali112 · Post by **Ali112** » Tue Mar 09, 2021 10:59 am

Sheh1984 wrote: ↑
Tue Mar 09, 2021 9:57 am
Hi applied May 2019,
Approval Oct 2020,
Sent documents plus fee Nov 2020
Awaiting naturalisation cert,

Did anyone who got their kids approval in Oct / Nov 2020 get their naturalisation certificates?.

I think they are forgotten about minors but i can see in other forums that many are getting their certs since last week. I hope and wish you do gets your childs !

I applied same sep2019 they asked document three times and last communication was actually in october 2020 asked for school letter and since then no communication at all !

Can you confirm what document they asked you on approval ? was it just Photos and money ? did they also asked for passport ?

iceice304 · Post by **iceice304** » Thu Mar 11, 2021 11:53 am

I sent fee and 2 photographs for my child in Nov 20, no response from them yet and awaiting the cert.

johnpromise01 · Post by **johnpromise01** » Thu Mar 11, 2021 12:48 pm

iceice304 wrote: ↑
Thu Mar 11, 2021 11:53 am
I sent fee and 2 photographs for my child in Nov 20, no response from them yet and awaiting the cert.

It's really shocking that I am yet to get receipt and reference number since they received my children's application in February 2020. Only received acknowledgement and nothing more. Absolutely unacceptable.

pluto1992 · Post by **pluto1992** » Thu Mar 11, 2021 4:21 pm

It's really shocking that I am yet to get receipt and reference number since they received my children's application in February 2020. Only received acknowledgement and nothing more. Absolutely unacceptable.
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3 years waiting for my child's application to be processed ... 3 years ... born in Ireland lived here all her life but somehow not Irish enough for her application to be processed in 3 years. Shame on the INIS, shame on DoJ shame on people who think its fine to treat people like this

Andy2019 · Post by **Andy2019** » Thu Mar 11, 2021 9:06 pm

It is shame!!!
And if they will not provide Certs to all our children in this 2021 year, they will be in a shame till end their days!!!
They are not able to print out piece of paper with photoe in 3years time!!
And does not matter Lockdown in the state or not it does not matter!!!
Shame to Minister!

Ali112 · Post by **Ali112** » Fri Mar 12, 2021 9:32 am

Andy2019 wrote: ↑
Thu Mar 11, 2021 9:06 pm
It is shame!!!
And if they will not provide Certs to all our children in this 2021 year, they will be in a shame till end their days!!!
They are not able to print out piece of paper with photoe in 3years time!!
And does not matter Lockdown in the state or not it does not matter!!!
Shame to Minister!

It is Indeed shame that those who have right of citizenship (Bear in mind i am talking about children born here in Ireland to those parents who had legal status to live in Ireland) are pushed back !

Lockdown is just an excuse this can be done easily ! its seems they are checking if children are doing any crime !!!! because they have always has suspicion on migrants !!! even their poor children.

I urge everyone to please send email directly to the minister for justice !!! i have emailed her yesterday.

if there are emails going to her directly then i am sure something will happened !!

aneelrahim · Post by **aneelrahim** » Wed Mar 24, 2021 2:14 pm

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