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Re: Citizenship applications from 2017 pending approval

Post by littlerr » Tue Jun 04, 2019 3:38 pm

Asongu wrote:
Tue Jun 04, 2019 2:31 pm
Thanks 🙏 Makem I really do appreciate!
I just received a reply to my email now telling me the same thing!

Your application is currently at an advanced stage of processing! While it’s not possible to give a specific time frame for a decision, this office will be in touch with you once a decision has been reached!

Citizenship Helpdesk
Team 3!

What’s the meaning of all this after more than two years of waiting! 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️!
That’s a good news actually. At least they have finished all checks on your application, and your application is now waiting to be signed off.
It means you just have to wait patiently for this to happen.

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Re: Citizenship applications from 2017 pending approval

Post by danielmensah » Wed Jun 05, 2019 12:55 pm

Asongu wrote:
Tue Jun 04, 2019 2:31 pm
Thanks 🙏 Makem I really do appreciate!
I just received a reply to my email now telling me the same thing!

Your application is currently at an advanced stage of processing! While it’s not possible to give a specific time frame for a decision, this office will be in touch with you once a decision has been reached!

Citizenship Helpdesk
Team 3!

What’s the meaning of all this after more than two years of waiting! 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️!
I have a friend, who got his approval within 6 months and had his ceremony on April 29th 2019 now an IRISH Citizen, told me not to disturb them with phone calls and emails or even letters, that that can provoke or frustrate any person in charge. And that might show that am desperate to get the citizenship.
So I should limit the number of times I get in touch with office with phone calls or emails?
Can this cause a delay on my application once they notice how desperate I am?
Anyone with needed on information on this. Could this be true?
I just dont want to do anything that will jeopardize all my efforts after waiting for almost 2 years.
Anyone with suggested update on this or what I should do?

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Re: Citizenship applications from 2017 pending approval

Post by littlerr » Wed Jun 05, 2019 1:34 pm

danielmensah wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 12:55 pm
I have a friend, who got his approval within 6 months and had his ceremony on April 29th 2019 now an IRISH Citizen, told me not to disturb them with phone calls and emails or even letters, that that can provoke or frustrate any person in charge. And that might show that am desperate to get the citizenship.
So I should limit the number of times I get in touch with office with phone calls or emails?
Can this cause a delay on my application once they notice how desperate I am?
Anyone with needed on information on this. Could this be true?
I just dont want to do anything that will jeopardize all my efforts after waiting for almost 2 years.
Anyone with suggested update on this or what I should do?
That is utter nonsense.

The person who updates you over the phone/email is just a customer services agent. They don't have any influences over your application. I called them almost every week between January and April. I got my approval without any issue.

(I heard that they don't even record any phone calls but I cannot confirm whether it's true.)

Every application has a processing team and a caseworker. The caseworker is the main person that prepares for your file. Once everything is in order, they send it to their supervisor for sign-off, and then submit it to the minister (with a recommended outcome I'd guess).

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Re: Citizenship applications from 2017 pending approval

Post by Anira » Wed Jun 05, 2019 1:59 pm

danielmensah wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 12:55 pm
Asongu wrote:
Tue Jun 04, 2019 2:31 pm
Thanks 🙏 Makem I really do appreciate!
I just received a reply to my email now telling me the same thing!

Your application is currently at an advanced stage of processing! While it’s not possible to give a specific time frame for a decision, this office will be in touch with you once a decision has been reached!

Citizenship Helpdesk
Team 3!

What’s the meaning of all this after more than two years of waiting! 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️!
I have a friend, who got his approval within 6 months and had his ceremony on April 29th 2019 now an IRISH Citizen, told me not to disturb them with phone calls and emails or even letters, that that can provoke or frustrate any person in charge. And that might show that am desperate to get the citizenship.
So I should limit the number of times I get in touch with office with phone calls or emails?
Can this cause a delay on my application once they notice how desperate I am?
Anyone with needed on information on this. Could this be true?
I just dont want to do anything that will jeopardize all my efforts after waiting for almost 2 years.
Anyone with suggested update on this or what I should do?
I rang them from April 2018 until April 2019, continuously every other week haha I wouldnt worry about that, to be honest.

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Re: Citizenship applications from 2017 pending approval

Post by danielmensah » Wed Jun 05, 2019 4:29 pm

Thanks guys for those responses.
I think am relieved and I will give them a call tomorrow again.
The process is just frustrating. A friend also send me a message to say his sister got approval last week and she was told to pay the €950. That means she might be included in this month's unconfirmed small ceremony.
Also as I was told, she applied October last year.

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Re: Citizenship applications from 2017 pending approval

Post by Asongu » Wed Jun 05, 2019 5:10 pm

danielmensah wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 4:29 pm
Thanks guys for those responses.
I think am relieved and I will give them a call tomorrow again.
The process is just frustrating. A friend also send me a message to say his sister got approval last week and she was told to pay the €950. That means she might be included in this month's unconfirmed small ceremony.
Also as I was told, she applied October last year.
I don’t know 🤷🏼‍♂️ where she got that information from but all I know is that keep calling them every week and if possible send them registered mails and emails! They will eventually get fade up and will get back to u!

Don’t give them breathing space!

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Re: Citizenship applications from 2017 pending approval

Post by danielmensah » Wed Jun 05, 2019 5:57 pm

Asongu wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 5:10 pm
danielmensah wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 4:29 pm
Thanks guys for those responses.
I think am relieved and I will give them a call tomorrow again.
The process is just frustrating. A friend also send me a message to say his sister got approval last week and she was told to pay the €950. That means she might be included in this month's unconfirmed small ceremony.
Also as I was told, she applied October last year.
I don’t know 🤷🏼‍♂️ where she got that information from but all I know is that keep calling them every week and if possible send them registered mails and emails! They will eventually get fade up and will get back to u!

Don’t give them breathing space!
Ok I will. Thanks for your response.

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Re: Citizenship applications from 2017 pending approval

Post by danielmensah » Thu Jun 06, 2019 1:09 pm

danielmensah wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 5:57 pm
Asongu wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 5:10 pm
danielmensah wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 4:29 pm
Thanks guys for those responses.
I think am relieved and I will give them a call tomorrow again.
The process is just frustrating. A friend also send me a message to say his sister got approval last week and she was told to pay the €950. That means she might be included in this month's unconfirmed small ceremony.
Also as I was told, she applied October last year.
I don’t know 🤷🏼‍♂️ where she got that information from but all I know is that keep calling them every week and if possible send them registered mails and emails! They will eventually get fade up and will get back to u!

Don’t give them breathing space!
Ok I will. Thanks for your response.
I tried calling them today from exactly 10 am till 11:55 am no luck. I was trying to both numbers 1890.... and 06232... After ringing for some minutes says "The number you have dialed is incorrect check the number and dial again". Is this a normal behaviour.
Anyone with a similar experience?

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Re: Citizenship applications from 2017 pending approval

Post by littlerr » Thu Jun 06, 2019 1:14 pm

danielmensah wrote:
Thu Jun 06, 2019 1:09 pm
danielmensah wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 5:57 pm
Asongu wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 5:10 pm
danielmensah wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 4:29 pm
Thanks guys for those responses.
I think am relieved and I will give them a call tomorrow again.
The process is just frustrating. A friend also send me a message to say his sister got approval last week and she was told to pay the €950. That means she might be included in this month's unconfirmed small ceremony.
Also as I was told, she applied October last year.
I don’t know 🤷🏼‍♂️ where she got that information from but all I know is that keep calling them every week and if possible send them registered mails and emails! They will eventually get fade up and will get back to u!

Don’t give them breathing space!
Ok I will. Thanks for your response.
I tried calling them today from exactly 10 am till 11:55 am no luck. I was trying to both numbers 1890.... and 06232... After ringing for some minutes says "The number you have dialed is incorrect check the number and dial again". Is this a normal behaviour.
Anyone with a similar experience?
Yes it is the normal behaviour. That stupid message is basically their "voicemail".
And also it is normal that you call for 2 hours and couldn't get through. Happened to me quite a few times for me in the past as well. It's all luck.

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Re: Citizenship applications from 2017 pending approval

Post by danielmensah » Thu Jun 06, 2019 1:34 pm

littlerr wrote:
Thu Jun 06, 2019 1:14 pm
danielmensah wrote:
Thu Jun 06, 2019 1:09 pm
danielmensah wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 5:57 pm
Asongu wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 5:10 pm


I don’t know 🤷🏼‍♂️ where she got that information from but all I know is that keep calling them every week and if possible send them registered mails and emails! They will eventually get fade up and will get back to u!

Don’t give them breathing space!
Ok I will. Thanks for your response.
I tried calling them today from exactly 10 am till 11:55 am no luck. I was trying to both numbers 1890.... and 06232... After ringing for some minutes says "The number you have dialed is incorrect check the number and dial again". Is this a normal behaviour.
Anyone with a similar experience?
Yes it is the normal behaviour. That stupid message is basically their "voicemail".
And also it is normal that you call for 2 hours and couldn't get through. Happened to me quite a few times for me in the past as well. It's all luck.
Ok thanks for the response. I will try again next week. :( :(

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Re: Citizenship applications from 2017 pending approval

Post by pissedoffbyinis » Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:06 am

Any update to any application from 2017.... specially from Pakistan.
No response on mine though :evil: :(

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Re: Citizenship applications from 2017 pending approval

Post by aneelrahim » Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:33 am

pissedoffbyinis wrote:
Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:06 am
Any update to any application from 2017.... specially from Pakistan.
No response on mine though :evil: :(
trying to get info but no response. Still dialing the telephone...

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Re: Citizenship applications from 2017 pending approval

Post by Asongu » Thu Jun 20, 2019 2:23 pm

aneelrahim wrote:
Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:33 am
pissedoffbyinis wrote:
Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:06 am
Any update to any application from 2017.... specially from Pakistan.
No response on mine though :evil: :(
trying to get info but no response. Still dialing the telephone...
I rang them from 10am to 12pm no response, I don’t know 🤷‍♀️ what’s going on with that office!
This people are really treating us unfairly! The system is so bias! More than 150 calls no response!

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Re: Citizenship applications from 2017 pending approval

Post by iamok » Tue Jun 25, 2019 10:24 am

A friend who applied in July 2017 got his approval letter yesterday. He is not on this forum so thought to update here.

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Re: Citizenship applications from 2017 pending approval

Post by M7edShin » Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:22 am

iamok wrote:
Tue Jun 25, 2019 10:24 am
A friend who applied in July 2017 got his approval letter yesterday. He is not on this forum so thought to update here.
Could you please state his country of born?

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Re: Citizenship applications from 2017 pending approval

Post by iamok » Tue Jun 25, 2019 12:31 pm

M7edShin wrote:
Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:22 am
iamok wrote:
Tue Jun 25, 2019 10:24 am
A friend who applied in July 2017 got his approval letter yesterday. He is not on this forum so thought to update here.
Could you please state his country of born?
He is originally from Pakistan and applied based on Stamp 1 + Stamp 4 (6 years of residence in Ireland at the time of application)

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Re: Citizenship applications from 2017 pending approval

Post by nojoyfrominis » Tue Jun 25, 2019 1:26 pm

M7edShin wrote:
Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:22 am
iamok wrote:
Tue Jun 25, 2019 10:24 am
A friend who applied in July 2017 got his approval letter yesterday. He is not on this forum so thought to update here.
Could you please state his country of born?
Do you know if they have asked for GNIB card back . Otherwise he will not be able to travel till sept unless they are planning another small ceremony

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Re: Citizenship applications from 2017 pending approval

Post by markem » Tue Jun 25, 2019 1:38 pm

nojoyfrominis wrote:
Tue Jun 25, 2019 1:26 pm
Do you know if they have asked for GNIB card back . Otherwise he will not be able to travel till sept unless they are planning another small ceremony
You can travel without a GNIB (or IRP as it's now known), as long as you have your approval letter.
Timeline threads here:
2020 /
2019 / 2018 / 2017 / 2016

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Re: Citizenship applications from 2017 pending approval

Post by iamok » Tue Jun 25, 2019 1:53 pm

nojoyfrominis wrote:
Tue Jun 25, 2019 1:26 pm
M7edShin wrote:
Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:22 am
iamok wrote:
Tue Jun 25, 2019 10:24 am
A friend who applied in July 2017 got his approval letter yesterday. He is not on this forum so thought to update here.
Could you please state his country of born?
Do you know if they have asked for GNIB card back . Otherwise he will not be able to travel till sept unless they are planning another small ceremony
They have asked for the GNIB/IRP but not given any timeframe to send the documents in. Usually they state in the approval letter that you need to return the documents in XX number of days but this is not the case for my friend. I asked him the same question.

In any case, my understanding is that he can still travel if he has a valid re-entry visa and carries his approval letter with him. 2 years ago, a similar thing had happened with me as I had to travel immediately after my citizenship ceremony and I didn't have either an Irish passport or GNIB but I was able to travel based on a valid re-entry visa along with Stamp 6 on my passport which stated that I had received Irish citizenship. I also carried my citizenship certificate with me. The INIS helpline had actually been helpful with me in this regard at that time and they told me what I needed to do to travel without a GNIB after getting citizenship but before getting Irish passport.

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Re: Citizenship applications from 2017 pending approval

Post by littlerr » Tue Jun 25, 2019 3:13 pm

You can go through the immigration control without GNIB card - that’s not a problem. I’ve done it five times.

My concern is that with the abolishment of re-entry visas, some airlines may not admit a person on a plane if they don’t have a GNIB card or re-entry visa. In my case I was travelling by Aer Lingus primarily without check-in luggage, so they never got the chance to check whether I have a GNIB/re-entry. In the case of Ryanair, or essentially any airline if you are going to check in your luggage, this might be a problem, because an approval letter means nothing to them, and I’m not sure if the stamp on your passport alone will allow you to travel.

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Re: Citizenship applications from 2017 pending approval

Post by aneelrahim » Tue Jun 25, 2019 3:35 pm

I get approval today and I am also from Pakistan (Stamp 1 and Stamp 4).

I applied in Dec 2017 and now have 6 years in Ireland.

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Re: Citizenship applications from 2017 pending approval

Post by M7edShin » Tue Jun 25, 2019 4:05 pm

littlerr wrote:
Tue Jun 25, 2019 3:13 pm
You can go through the immigration control without GNIB card - that’s not a problem. I’ve done it five times.

My concern is that with the abolishment of re-entry visas, some airlines may not admit a person on a plane if they don’t have a GNIB card or re-entry visa. In my case I was travelling by Aer Lingus primarily without check-in luggage, so they never got the chance to check whether I have a GNIB/re-entry. In the case of Ryanair, or essentially any airline if you are going to check in your luggage, this might be a problem, because an approval letter means nothing to them, and I’m not sure if the stamp on your passport alone will allow you to travel.
Yes true that, it happened to me immigration office literally will look at your name on your passport and look it up on their computer "System", everything is stored there and no need to show up any letter or cards.

As well as, Aerlingus is decent :D, they wont check even with check in luggage (Maybe I was lucky but they never ask) and with letter you can go through I believe. Ryanair will ask for the card but I believe you can still argue about it :D

*If you are from a visa required country, and have a valid IRP card or GNIB card, you will no longer require a re-entry visa to leave and return to Ireland on or after 13 May 2019. You will be able to show your passport and IRP or GNIB card to prove to airlines and immigration officials that you have a right to travel to Ireland. You will be exempt from the requirement to hold a visa.*

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Re: Citizenship applications from 2017 pending approval

Post by M7edShin » Tue Jun 25, 2019 4:07 pm

aneelrahim wrote:
Tue Jun 25, 2019 3:35 pm
I get approval today and I am also from Pakistan (Stamp 1 and Stamp 4).

I applied in Dec 2017 and now have 6 years in Ireland.
Approval like to pay the fee thing before ceremonies invitation or approval to second stage of processing?

Thanks

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Re: Citizenship applications from 2017 pending approval

Post by aneelrahim » Tue Jun 25, 2019 4:10 pm

M7edShin wrote:
Tue Jun 25, 2019 4:07 pm
aneelrahim wrote:
Tue Jun 25, 2019 3:35 pm
I get approval today and I am also from Pakistan (Stamp 1 and Stamp 4).

I applied in Dec 2017 and now have 6 years in Ireland.
Approval like to pay the fee thing before ceremonies invitation or approval to second stage of processing?

Thanks
Approval to pay fee 950 etc

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Re: Citizenship applications from 2017 pending approval

Post by M7edShin » Tue Jun 25, 2019 4:15 pm

aneelrahim wrote:
Tue Jun 25, 2019 4:10 pm
M7edShin wrote:
Tue Jun 25, 2019 4:07 pm
aneelrahim wrote:
Tue Jun 25, 2019 3:35 pm
I get approval today and I am also from Pakistan (Stamp 1 and Stamp 4).

I applied in Dec 2017 and now have 6 years in Ireland.
Approval like to pay the fee thing before ceremonies invitation or approval to second stage of processing?

Thanks
Approval to pay fee 950 etc
WOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO happy for you !!! good news.

Unfortunately I was unlucky, I received a letter today "24th June" as well stating "Your application has now been initally assessed and has proceeded to the second stage of processing. Your application is being processed with a view to establishing wethere you meet the staturtory conditions for the granting naturalisation and will be submitted to the Minister for decision bla bla bla "

Applied Nov 2017 :( ... I know that being in second stage mean nothing but at least it gave me a hope that they looked at my application :D :D eventually

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