Citizenship Applications From 2021 Pending Approval

Palantir wrote: ↑ They focus on small and big issues - that is called representative democracy. You can Google Dáil questions and there have been lots of questions in the last few months relating to it - delays, e-vetting, etc. So clearly they do ask questions.

ankuagg wrote: ↑

Tue May 16, 2023 11:14 am

Palantir wrote: ↑

Tue May 16, 2023 11:08 am

Social media is fine, but the only thing that will really change things is, if people put political pressure and söme form lf accountability.

Wouldn't be surprised if they are fast tracking 2023 applications to quickly bring down the median waiting time, or so the Dept and/or Minister can sneakily say average waiting times for 2023 applications is X amount (by current data, about four or so months!) Either way, 2021 and 2022 applicants are being completely screwed and should be rightly livid!

ankuagg wrote: ↑

Tue May 16, 2023 10:59 am

I believe 2021 and 2022 applicants need raise questions on twitter and tag ISD.

Political people focus on mass people issues but not 1-10 cases in each town. Definitely they can/will listen problem and issue but there is no guaranty that they will raise this issue in Parliament and when they will raise nobody knows.
I totally agree ISD is currently focusing on bring down the median waiting time based on 2023 applications which is totally unethical and Paint the Picture according to own.

Let's highlight some importnant piece of fact that Irish Citizenship is not entitelment, yes it's not but the Irish Minister of Justice GRANT you Irish Citizenshipand that make you on no ground and have no case. I am sorry to say that but that is the way in that matter, in early 20th you can not contact the Citizenship Department before 3 or more years from the date you applied and you could take up to 7 years waiting before you get Citizenship. all am saying is it could be worst all you have/can do is to wait - stay calm and don't make it hard on yourself. Regards

nzrmd wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 12, 2023 2:46 pm

I don't know why sending the certificates takes so long, I attended the ceremony on 20th June, some friends attended on 19th June are also waiting for their certificates. I am afraid it will take much longer

P.S. I just marked the 2 year time after application, that makes it a little unfair to see lots of 2023 applications are getting approvals while we are still waiting for the certificates (also I don't know why they don't just focus on completing all certificates before focusing on approving other people). Unfortunately there is nowhere to complain about this.

Vadrar wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 12, 2023 3:26 pm

nzrmd wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 12, 2023 2:46 pm

I don't know why sending the certificates takes so long, I attended the ceremony on 20th June, some friends attended on 19th June are also waiting for their certificates. I am afraid it will take much longer

P.S. I just marked the 2 year time after application, that makes it a little unfair to see lots of 2023 applications are getting approvals while we are still waiting for the certificates (also I don't know why they don't just focus on completing all certificates before focusing on approving other people). Unfortunately there is nowhere to complain about this.

It’s a process bottleneck. Recent law change means certificates can now be watermarked by officials. Up to now each certificate had to be handled by Minister’s office - and far fewer staff there and they have other priorities. But there hasn’t been time to shift the process in response to the new legal flexibility. Certificate issuance will speed up, but likely not for the most recent ceremony participants. It’s far from ideal, but the reality right now.

nzrmd wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 12, 2023 3:51 pm

I wasn't aware of this, thanks for the clarification. It is appreciated.
Now, tbh, it is more concerning (what I mean, it might take a couple of months) for us who attended the last ceremony, it seems like the speed is very slow. I haven't seen anyone who I know personally (at least 10 people) and got their certificates after 3 weeks.

Vadrar wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 12, 2023 3:26 pm

nzrmd wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 12, 2023 2:46 pm

I don't know why sending the certificates takes so long, I attended the ceremony on 20th June, some friends attended on 19th June are also waiting for their certificates. I am afraid it will take much longer

P.S. I just marked the 2 year time after application, that makes it a little unfair to see lots of 2023 applications are getting approvals while we are still waiting for the certificates (also I don't know why they don't just focus on completing all certificates before focusing on approving other people). Unfortunately there is nowhere to complain about this.

It’s a process bottleneck. Recent law change means certificates can now be watermarked by officials. Up to now each certificate had to be handled by Minister’s office - and far fewer staff there and they have other priorities. But there hasn’t been time to shift the process in response to the new legal flexibility. Certificate issuance will speed up, but likely not for the most recent ceremony participants. It’s far from ideal, but the reality right now.

USD001a wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 13, 2023 1:04 pm

I've been wondering about the current citizenship status of individuals who attended the citizenship ceremony in June but have yet to receive their certificates. Can we consider them official citizens already? Based on the "Irish Nationality and Citizenship Act, 1956," I'm inclined to think not. Here are the relevant excerpts:

IRISH NATIONALITY AND CITIZENSHIP ACT, 1956
14.—Irish citizenship may be conferred on an alien by means of a certificate of naturalisation granted by the Minister.

15.—Upon receipt of an application for a certificate of naturalisation, the Minister may, in his absolute discretion, grant the application, if satisfied that the applicant complies with the following conditions (in this Act referred to as conditions for naturalisation):

(f) he has made, either before a Justice of the District Court in open court or in such manner as the Minister, for special reasons, allows, a declaration in the prescribed manner, of fidelity to the nation and loyalty to the State.

The current scenario, which seems to create a legal grey area for thousands of people, is quite crazy.

iainke2 wrote: ↑

Sat Jul 22, 2023 3:40 pm

Hello fellow applicants. I'm really happy for all of you that have been approved, and indeed naturalized at the recent ceremonies!! The saga is over for you. I'm just wondering if I'm the only one still waiting for anything from the Department. I applied in Oct 2021.

I recently submitted an FOI request to which the response was poor. I appealed, and they granted the appeal, but basically just sent me a scanned copy of my application documents. My next step is to write to my local TDs.

To say that I'm disappointed and frustrated is a gross understatement. A friend of mine submitted her application based on marriage to an Irish citizen in January, and was approved and naturalized at the ceremony in June. A colleague applied as an EU citizen at the end of March, and has already been approved. Again, I'm happy for them and everyone else that's successful. When I think about the wait and lack of substantive communication for my own application, I'm furious.

RCCar wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 04, 2023 11:09 am

hmmm, no approval for my wife still, hope it will be next week, just checking how many people from 2021 still waiting approval?

RCCar wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 04, 2023 11:09 am

hmmm, no approval for my wife still, hope it will be next week, just checking how many people from 2021 still waiting approval?

Applied Oct 2021, and I’ve received no indication of any reviews or processing of my application. I’ve done a FOI request, and a successful appeal. I’ve written to one of my TDs, and I sent ANOTHER email requesting some information over a week ago. Still NOTHING!

RCCar wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 06, 2023 7:19 am

Applied Oct 2021, and I’ve received no indication of any reviews or processing of my application. I’ve done a FOI request, and a successful appeal. I’ve written to one of my TDs, and I sent ANOTHER email requesting some information over a week ago. Still NOTHING!

Did you receive e-vetting?

RCCar wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 06, 2023 9:18 am

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Nope. Nothing. Nada. Zilch. Nein. Zero. Niente.

Hire immigration solicitor and they should send a letter to them (they HAVE to asnwer them in 4 weeks), you can do it now

User20123 wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 07, 2023 8:58 am

Still haven't received the letter to pay 950EUR, and it appears that only 2023 applicants will be invited to the Oct. ceremony:(

meself2 wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 07, 2023 9:02 am

User20123 wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 07, 2023 8:58 am

Still haven't received the letter to pay 950EUR, and it appears that only 2023 applicants will be invited to the Oct. ceremony:(

How so? Haven't heard any invitations to be received yet.

Yes, you are right. I haven't heard 2023 applicants receiving invitations yet however, 3 of my friend have completed their payments and surely would be invited in the upcoming ceremony and they are from 2023 March lot.

Also, what's your timeline?

meself2 wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 07, 2023 9:02 am

User20123 wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 07, 2023 8:58 am

Still haven't received the letter to pay 950EUR, and it appears that only 2023 applicants will be invited to the Oct. ceremony:(

How so? Haven't heard any invitations to be received yet.

Also, what's your timeline?

User20123 wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 07, 2023 1:38 pm

meself2 wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 07, 2023 9:02 am

User20123 wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 07, 2023 8:58 am

Still haven't received the letter to pay 950EUR, and it appears that only 2023 applicants will be invited to the Oct. ceremony:(

How so? Haven't heard any invitations to be received yet.

Also, what's your timeline?

How far are you in the process?

meself2 wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 07, 2023 1:41 pm

User20123 wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 07, 2023 1:38 pm

meself2 wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 07, 2023 9:02 am

User20123 wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 07, 2023 8:58 am

Still haven't received the letter to pay 950EUR, and it appears that only 2023 applicants will be invited to the Oct. ceremony:(

How so? Haven't heard any invitations to be received yet.

Also, what's your timeline?

How far are you in the process?

My timeline is an open book - post2119479.html#p2119479
One of the few (hopefully) 2021 applicants.

Applied in Feb 2022.
Received Acknowledgement letter in Oct 2022.
Garda evetting bulk email May 22.
Garda consent completed on Aug 09.
NVB disclosure viewed Aug 18.

Now waiting for the letter