Citizenship Applications From 2021 Pending Approval

expatlux wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 28, 2023 7:06 am

Hi folks, I applied for naturalisation in January 2021 based on my Irish citizen young child (we are both resident in Ireland). At the two year mark I emailed (for the first time) requesting an update as all the time estimates had elapsed, I essentially received a form letter email reply indicating my application was 'progressing normally'. I don't *yet* want to do a freedom of information request in my file butt perhaps soon. Any advice on what else to do but wait, and when I might decide to submit a FOI request? Thanks

expatlux wrote: ↑

Mon Nov 20, 2023 1:42 pm

expatlux wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 28, 2023 7:06 am

Hi folks, I applied for naturalisation in January 2021 based on my Irish citizen young child (we are both resident in Ireland). At the two year mark I emailed (for the first time) requesting an update as all the time estimates had elapsed, I essentially received a form letter email reply indicating my application was 'progressing normally'. I don't *yet* want to do a freedom of information request in my file butt perhaps soon. Any advice on what else to do but wait, and when I might decide to submit a FOI request? Thanks

I applied for naturalisation ***34 months ago***. How does one go about requesting a FOI request or judicial review? I think I'll ask my TD to follow up also based on other recent comments I see here. Any other advice is very welcome, I had thought I would long be Irish by this point.

expatlux wrote: ↑

Mon Nov 20, 2023 1:42 pm

expatlux wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 28, 2023 7:06 am

Hi folks, I applied for naturalisation in January 2021 based on my Irish citizen young child (we are both resident in Ireland). At the two year mark I emailed (for the first time) requesting an update as all the time estimates had elapsed, I essentially received a form letter email reply indicating my application was 'progressing normally'. I don't *yet* want to do a freedom of information request in my file butt perhaps soon. Any advice on what else to do but wait, and when I might decide to submit a FOI request? Thanks

I applied for naturalisation ***34 months ago***. How does one go about requesting a FOI request or judicial review? I think I'll ask my TD to follow up also based on other recent comments I see here. Any other advice is very welcome, I had thought I would long be Irish by this point.

expatlux wrote: ↑

Mon Nov 20, 2023 1:42 pm

expatlux wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 28, 2023 7:06 am

Hi folks, I applied for naturalisation in January 2021 based on my Irish citizen young child (we are both resident in Ireland). At the two year mark I emailed (for the first time) requesting an update as all the time estimates had elapsed, I essentially received a form letter email reply indicating my application was 'progressing normally'. I don't *yet* want to do a freedom of information request in my file butt perhaps soon. Any advice on what else to do but wait, and when I might decide to submit a FOI request? Thanks

I applied for naturalisation ***34 months ago***. How does one go about requesting a FOI request or judicial review? I think I'll ask my TD to follow up also based on other recent comments I see here. Any other advice is very welcome, I had thought I would long be Irish by this point.

Vadrar wrote: ↑

Mon Nov 20, 2023 1:55 pm

expatlux wrote: ↑

Mon Nov 20, 2023 1:42 pm

expatlux wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 28, 2023 7:06 am

Hi folks, I applied for naturalisation in January 2021 based on my Irish citizen young child (we are both resident in Ireland). At the two year mark I emailed (for the first time) requesting an update as all the time estimates had elapsed, I essentially received a form letter email reply indicating my application was 'progressing normally'. I don't *yet* want to do a freedom of information request in my file butt perhaps soon. Any advice on what else to do but wait, and when I might decide to submit a FOI request? Thanks

I applied for naturalisation ***34 months ago***. How does one go about requesting a FOI request or judicial review? I think I'll ask my TD to follow up also based on other recent comments I see here. Any other advice is very welcome, I had thought I would long be Irish by this point.

FOI: https://www.gov.ie/en/service/839fb-mak ... i-request/
JR: you’ll need to select an immigration solicitor and make the JR application through them

I’d definitely start via your TD. JR will get you a decision but will take time and money. A TD question will be quicker (if they aren’t asleep at the wheel) and free.

meself2 wrote: ↑

Mon Nov 20, 2023 1:58 pm

expatlux wrote: ↑

Mon Nov 20, 2023 1:42 pm

expatlux wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 28, 2023 7:06 am

Hi folks, I applied for naturalisation in January 2021 based on my Irish citizen young child (we are both resident in Ireland). At the two year mark I emailed (for the first time) requesting an update as all the time estimates had elapsed, I essentially received a form letter email reply indicating my application was 'progressing normally'. I don't *yet* want to do a freedom of information request in my file butt perhaps soon. Any advice on what else to do but wait, and when I might decide to submit a FOI request? Thanks

I applied for naturalisation ***34 months ago***. How does one go about requesting a FOI request or judicial review? I think I'll ask my TD to follow up also based on other recent comments I see here. Any other advice is very welcome, I had thought I would long be Irish by this point.

Have you not done anything?? It's a HUGE amount of time.

You should go with both FOI and contacting your TD - I think they forgot about you (unless there's a reason for the delay, eg you committed crimes).

For FOI, it's simple, you fill out a form, send email to foi@justice.ie with this form and your ID, get your records back. See ireland/foi-foe-citizenship-application-t314235.html

For TD, even easier - look up your TDs on oireachtas.ie/en/members , pick one that you prefer (and maybe from the party that supports immigrants), send them an email on their Oireachtas mailbox saying "thats my name, I live in [address] (so they know you're their constituent), I havent had progress on my application for almost 3 years, havent heard from ISD, here's my application number, can you ssk them for me on INISOireachtasMail@justice.ie ?"
I did that - they asked about my application tomorrow and I got a response the next day (forwarded to me from TD) that they're working on my application.

If none of those make progress in a few weeks, see post2020380.html#p2020380 about a JR.

mrjones92 wrote: ↑

Mon Nov 20, 2023 6:37 pm

expatlux wrote: ↑

Mon Nov 20, 2023 1:42 pm

expatlux wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 28, 2023 7:06 am

Hi folks, I applied for naturalisation in January 2021 based on my Irish citizen young child (we are both resident in Ireland). At the two year mark I emailed (for the first time) requesting an update as all the time estimates had elapsed, I essentially received a form letter email reply indicating my application was 'progressing normally'. I don't *yet* want to do a freedom of information request in my file butt perhaps soon. Any advice on what else to do but wait, and when I might decide to submit a FOI request? Thanks

I applied for naturalisation ***34 months ago***. How does one go about requesting a FOI request or judicial review? I think I'll ask my TD to follow up also based on other recent comments I see here. Any other advice is very welcome, I had thought I would long be Irish by this point.

Hi, apologies if I'm duplicating any answers if there were on previous pages, but I assume, expatlux, that you got a competent legal advice before submitting application for naturalisation on the basis of Irish citizen child.

Such application would be 'an application based on Irish descent or associations' and it takes 30 months to process - yours is taking longer anyway

Plus it is unlikely to be approved as citizenship is generally by descent (i.e. parents, grandparents) and not by ascent (children)

https://www.irishimmigration.ie/how-to- ... ociations/

expatlux wrote: ↑

Mon Nov 20, 2023 8:29 pm

mrjones92 wrote: ↑

Mon Nov 20, 2023 6:37 pm

expatlux wrote: ↑

Mon Nov 20, 2023 1:42 pm

expatlux wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 28, 2023 7:06 am

Hi folks, I applied for naturalisation in January 2021 based on my Irish citizen young child (we are both resident in Ireland). At the two year mark I emailed (for the first time) requesting an update as all the time estimates had elapsed, I essentially received a form letter email reply indicating my application was 'progressing normally'. I don't *yet* want to do a freedom of information request in my file butt perhaps soon. Any advice on what else to do but wait, and when I might decide to submit a FOI request? Thanks

I applied for naturalisation ***34 months ago***. How does one go about requesting a FOI request or judicial review? I think I'll ask my TD to follow up also based on other recent comments I see here. Any other advice is very welcome, I had thought I would long be Irish by this point.

Hi, apologies if I'm duplicating any answers if there were on previous pages, but I assume, expatlux, that you got a competent legal advice before submitting application for naturalisation on the basis of Irish citizen child.

Such application would be 'an application based on Irish descent or associations' and it takes 30 months to process - yours is taking longer anyway

Plus it is unlikely to be approved as citizenship is generally by descent (i.e. parents, grandparents) and not by ascent (children)

https://www.irishimmigration.ie/how-to- ... ociations/

I wouldn't say such an application is 'unlikely' to be approved, I'm a permanent resident on a Stamp 4 EUFAM living in Ireland with my Irish citizen child. Family reunification is a pretty important category.

"Applications for family reunification will be refused where a party to an application is a threat to public security, public policy or public health." & "Special consideration will also be given to cases where one of the parties concerned is an Irish citizen child." both quoted from https://www.irishimmigration.ie/wp-cont ... cation.pdf

We'll see what reply a TD gets.

iainke2 wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 06, 2023 9:58 pm

Does anyone know when invitations for the December ceremonies are expected, or have they already been sent?

I completed e-vetting on 29 November, and hopeful to the point of changing a flight out for Christmas at home (and paying for the change in fare), that I will be among those invited.

iainke2 wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 06, 2023 9:58 pm

Does anyone know when invitations for the December ceremonies are expected, or have they already been sent?

I completed e-vetting on 29 November, and hopeful to the point of changing a flight out for Christmas at home (and paying for the change in fare), that I will be among those invited.

Applic83 wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 07, 2023 12:36 pm

iainke2 wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 06, 2023 9:58 pm

Does anyone know when invitations for the December ceremonies are expected, or have they already been sent?

I completed e-vetting on 29 November, and hopeful to the point of changing a flight out for Christmas at home (and paying for the change in fare), that I will be among those invited.

To be considered for these coming ceremonies, you need to have been approved and paid by 30th of November. This was indicated in my approval letter. As far as I know, invitations to all of December ceremonies have already been sent. Hopefully, you'll get approved soon

Vadrar wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 07, 2023 12:48 pm

Applic83 wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 07, 2023 12:36 pm

iainke2 wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 06, 2023 9:58 pm

Does anyone know when invitations for the December ceremonies are expected, or have they already been sent?

I completed e-vetting on 29 November, and hopeful to the point of changing a flight out for Christmas at home (and paying for the change in fare), that I will be among those invited.

To be considered for these coming ceremonies, you need to have been approved and paid by 30th of November. This was indicated in my approval letter. As far as I know, invitations to all of December ceremonies have already been sent. Hopefully, you'll get approved soon

Applic83 - your payment date was specific to you, not a general cut off. You get 10 days from offer date.

Iainke2 - they are still issuing invitations (but it’s getting close to end), but only to those who’ve already received approval.

Applic83 wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:04 pm

Vadrar wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 07, 2023 12:48 pm

Applic83 wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 07, 2023 12:36 pm

iainke2 wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 06, 2023 9:58 pm

Does anyone know when invitations for the December ceremonies are expected, or have they already been sent?

I completed e-vetting on 29 November, and hopeful to the point of changing a flight out for Christmas at home (and paying for the change in fare), that I will be among those invited.

To be considered for these coming ceremonies, you need to have been approved and paid by 30th of November. This was indicated in my approval letter. As far as I know, invitations to all of December ceremonies have already been sent. Hopefully, you'll get approved soon

Applic83 - your payment date was specific to you, not a general cut off. You get 10 days from offer date.

Iainke2 - they are still issuing invitations (but it’s getting close to end), but only to those who’ve already received approval.

No, you actually can pay anytime! They didn’t mention that your offer of approval is limited to 10 days! you’ll be considered for ceremonies of which the cutoff date is after your payment processing day. The letter specified “if you want to be considered for 18th and 19th of December ceremonies”. I know for a fact they sent the invitations in batches based on the ceremony date and time. If they are still sending invitations it’ll be to fill in places of people who declined and , as you said, to people who were already approved, paid and payment was processed.

Vadrar wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 07, 2023 6:08 pm

Applic83 wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:04 pm

Vadrar wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 07, 2023 12:48 pm

Applic83 wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 07, 2023 12:36 pm

iainke2 wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 06, 2023 9:58 pm

Does anyone know when invitations for the December ceremonies are expected, or have they already been sent?

I completed e-vetting on 29 November, and hopeful to the point of changing a flight out for Christmas at home (and paying for the change in fare), that I will be among those invited.

To be considered for these coming ceremonies, you need to have been approved and paid by 30th of November. This was indicated in my approval letter. As far as I know, invitations to all of December ceremonies have already been sent. Hopefully, you'll get approved soon

Applic83 - your payment date was specific to you, not a general cut off. You get 10 days from offer date.

Iainke2 - they are still issuing invitations (but it’s getting close to end), but only to those who’ve already received approval.

No, you actually can pay anytime! They didn’t mention that your offer of approval is limited to 10 days! you’ll be considered for ceremonies of which the cutoff date is after your payment processing day. The letter specified “if you want to be considered for 18th and 19th of December ceremonies”. I know for a fact they sent the invitations in batches based on the ceremony date and time. If they are still sending invitations it’ll be to fill in places of people who declined and , as you said, to people who were already approved, paid and payment was processed.

The offers do time out - we’re currently trying to resurrect an offer for an applicant who did not respond in a timely fashion (and timely is longer than 10 days, but it isn’t ’you can pay anytime!’) You can arrange to delay payment if paying soon after offer isn’t possible, but you can’t just pick a payment time without communicating to them. The department can withdraw approvals if it believes non-response by a candidate means they are no longer engaging.

The 10 day timeline is also given to candidates who are not invited to the next ceremony (usually indicated by the use of ‘forthcoming ceremony’ or ‘future ceremony’ rather than ‘December ceremony’ in the letter.) That’s my point- the 10 day timeline given to you was based on your offer date, not universally applicable to everyone invited to December ceremony. Yes they invite in batches, but yours was far from the only batch. Batched approvals have arrived today- with a 10 day payment deadline, referencing December ceremony. They may or may not get an invitation to Dec ceremony. Previous approvals are also getting some invitations created by declines, outside of the batch runs.

All that said, the basic point that the bulk of December invitations have gone out, and if you don’t have an approval by now chances of getting to Dec ceremony are very slim, remains.

kmosgirl2 wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 07, 2023 7:09 pm

Vadrar wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 07, 2023 6:08 pm

Applic83 wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:04 pm

Vadrar wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 07, 2023 12:48 pm

Applic83 wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 07, 2023 12:36 pm

iainke2 wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 06, 2023 9:58 pm

Does anyone know when invitations for the December ceremonies are expected, or have they already been sent?

I completed e-vetting on 29 November, and hopeful to the point of changing a flight out for Christmas at home (and paying for the change in fare), that I will be among those invited.

To be considered for these coming ceremonies, you need to have been approved and paid by 30th of November. This was indicated in my approval letter. As far as I know, invitations to all of December ceremonies have already been sent. Hopefully, you'll get approved soon

Applic83 - your payment date was specific to you, not a general cut off. You get 10 days from offer date.

Iainke2 - they are still issuing invitations (but it’s getting close to end), but only to those who’ve already received approval.

No, you actually can pay anytime! They didn’t mention that your offer of approval is limited to 10 days! you’ll be considered for ceremonies of which the cutoff date is after your payment processing day. The letter specified “if you want to be considered for 18th and 19th of December ceremonies”. I know for a fact they sent the invitations in batches based on the ceremony date and time. If they are still sending invitations it’ll be to fill in places of people who declined and , as you said, to people who were already approved, paid and payment was processed.

The offers do time out - we’re currently trying to resurrect an offer for an applicant who did not respond in a timely fashion (and timely is longer than 10 days, but it isn’t ’you can pay anytime!’) You can arrange to delay payment if paying soon after offer isn’t possible, but you can’t just pick a payment time without communicating to them. The department can withdraw approvals if it believes non-response by a candidate means they are no longer engaging.

The 10 day timeline is also given to candidates who are not invited to the next ceremony (usually indicated by the use of ‘forthcoming ceremony’ or ‘future ceremony’ rather than ‘December ceremony’ in the letter.) That’s my point- the 10 day timeline given to you was based on your offer date, not universally applicable to everyone invited to December ceremony. Yes they invite in batches, but yours was far from the only batch. Batched approvals have arrived today- with a 10 day payment deadline, referencing December ceremony. They may or may not get an invitation to Dec ceremony. Previous approvals are also getting some invitations created by declines, outside of the batch runs.

All that said, the basic point that the bulk of December invitations have gone out, and if you don’t have an approval by now chances of getting to Dec ceremony are very slim, remains.

Hi, could you please tell me what you mean by “ Batched approvals have arrived today- with a 10 day payment deadline”? Do you mean approvals for this month have been sent out today or have been received by people? Thanks!

Vadrar wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 07, 2023 7:28 pm

kmosgirl2 wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 07, 2023 7:09 pm

Vadrar wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 07, 2023 6:08 pm

Applic83 wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:04 pm

Vadrar wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 07, 2023 12:48 pm

Applic83 wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 07, 2023 12:36 pm

To be considered for these coming ceremonies, you need to have been approved and paid by 30th of November. This was indicated in my approval letter. As far as I know, invitations to all of December ceremonies have already been sent. Hopefully, you'll get approved soon

Applic83 - your payment date was specific to you, not a general cut off. You get 10 days from offer date.

Iainke2 - they are still issuing invitations (but it’s getting close to end), but only to those who’ve already received approval.

No, you actually can pay anytime! They didn’t mention that your offer of approval is limited to 10 days! you’ll be considered for ceremonies of which the cutoff date is after your payment processing day. The letter specified “if you want to be considered for 18th and 19th of December ceremonies”. I know for a fact they sent the invitations in batches based on the ceremony date and time. If they are still sending invitations it’ll be to fill in places of people who declined and , as you said, to people who were already approved, paid and payment was processed.

The offers do time out - we’re currently trying to resurrect an offer for an applicant who did not respond in a timely fashion (and timely is longer than 10 days, but it isn’t ’you can pay anytime!’) You can arrange to delay payment if paying soon after offer isn’t possible, but you can’t just pick a payment time without communicating to them. The department can withdraw approvals if it believes non-response by a candidate means they are no longer engaging.

The 10 day timeline is also given to candidates who are not invited to the next ceremony (usually indicated by the use of ‘forthcoming ceremony’ or ‘future ceremony’ rather than ‘December ceremony’ in the letter.) That’s my point- the 10 day timeline given to you was based on your offer date, not universally applicable to everyone invited to December ceremony. Yes they invite in batches, but yours was far from the only batch. Batched approvals have arrived today- with a 10 day payment deadline, referencing December ceremony. They may or may not get an invitation to Dec ceremony. Previous approvals are also getting some invitations created by declines, outside of the batch runs.

All that said, the basic point that the bulk of December invitations have gone out, and if you don’t have an approval by now chances of getting to Dec ceremony are very slim, remains.

Hi, could you please tell me what you mean by “ Batched approvals have arrived today- with a 10 day payment deadline”? Do you mean approvals for this month have been sent out today or have been received by people? Thanks!

Some applicants received approvals today. They were sent as a batch (ie a wave of approvals from the department, all arriving in inboxes at the same
time - that’s how we know it’s a batch.)

If you are asking ‘is that the last mass approvals that will be sent this month?’ We don’t know. There may be additional batches, there will be additional sporadic approvals (sent individually, not as a bulk wave.) We may not see anymore batch approvals, or we might- ISD moves unpredictably.

If you are asking ‘might I still get an approval and invitation to the ceremony’ I’d say very, very unlikely.

Jianken wrote: ↑

Fri Dec 08, 2023 10:48 pm

is there anyone else from 2021 applicants who haven't received confirmation of grant? I did my e-vetting in May and have heard nothing since then.

nisi wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 09, 2023 4:20 pm

Jianken wrote: ↑

Fri Dec 08, 2023 10:48 pm

is there anyone else from 2021 applicants who haven't received confirmation of grant? I did my e-vetting in May and have heard nothing since then.

Yup, I'm still waiting. Applied in September 2021. I received request for PSNI vetting in March (equivalent of eVetting for those of us residing in Northern Ireland). Got a request for me to send my marriage certificate in May, even though I'd already sent that with the original application, along with a certified copy of my partners passport even though that hadn't been required originally. Replied to both promptly. I got an email request to complete eVetting on October/November (which I had to point out you can't do if you live in Northern Ireland). I received back my original marriage and birth certificates submitted in 2021 yesterday (but not the second marriage certificate I submitted in May 2023 ).

Still no approval/request for payment. Back in March I thought I might make the summer 2023 ceremony, at this rate I wouldn't be surprised if I miss the summer 2024 one!

nisi wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 09, 2023 4:20 pm

Jianken wrote: ↑

Fri Dec 08, 2023 10:48 pm

is there anyone else from 2021 applicants who haven't received confirmation of grant? I did my e-vetting in May and have heard nothing since then.

Yup, I'm still waiting. Applied in September 2021. I received request for PSNI vetting in March (equivalent of eVetting for those of us residing in Northern Ireland). Got a request for me to send my marriage certificate in May, even though I'd already sent that with the original application, along with a certified copy of my partners passport even though that hadn't been required originally. Replied to both promptly. I got an email request to complete eVetting on October/November (which I had to point out you can't do if you live in Northern Ireland). I received back my original marriage and birth certificates submitted in 2021 yesterday (but not the second marriage certificate I submitted in May 2023 ).

Still no approval/request for payment. Back in March I thought I might make the summer 2023 ceremony, at this rate I wouldn't be surprised if I miss the summer 2024 one!

Jianken wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 12, 2023 7:38 pm

Congrats. I'm delighted for you. Do you know if you'll be invited for December ceremonies or not?

meself2 wrote: ↑

Mon Nov 20, 2023 9:02 pm

expatlux wrote: ↑

Mon Nov 20, 2023 8:29 pm

mrjones92 wrote: ↑

Mon Nov 20, 2023 6:37 pm

expatlux wrote: ↑

Mon Nov 20, 2023 1:42 pm

expatlux wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 28, 2023 7:06 am

Hi folks, I applied for naturalisation in January 2021 based on my Irish citizen young child (we are both resident in Ireland). At the two year mark I emailed (for the first time) requesting an update as all the time estimates had elapsed, I essentially received a form letter email reply indicating my application was 'progressing normally'. I don't *yet* want to do a freedom of information request in my file butt perhaps soon. Any advice on what else to do but wait, and when I might decide to submit a FOI request? Thanks

I applied for naturalisation ***34 months ago***. How does one go about requesting a FOI request or judicial review? I think I'll ask my TD to follow up also based on other recent comments I see here. Any other advice is very welcome, I had thought I would long be Irish by this point.

Hi, apologies if I'm duplicating any answers if there were on previous pages, but I assume, expatlux, that you got a competent legal advice before submitting application for naturalisation on the basis of Irish citizen child.

Such application would be 'an application based on Irish descent or associations' and it takes 30 months to process - yours is taking longer anyway

Plus it is unlikely to be approved as citizenship is generally by descent (i.e. parents, grandparents) and not by ascent (children)

https://www.irishimmigration.ie/how-to- ... ociations/

I wouldn't say such an application is 'unlikely' to be approved, I'm a permanent resident on a Stamp 4 EUFAM living in Ireland with my Irish citizen child. Family reunification is a pretty important category.

"Applications for family reunification will be refused where a party to an application is a threat to public security, public policy or public health." & "Special consideration will also be given to cases where one of the parties concerned is an Irish citizen child." both quoted from https://www.irishimmigration.ie/wp-cont ... cation.pdf

We'll see what reply a TD gets.

How logn have you been residing in the country?

There was a case on someone on forums, who applied with Irish associations after 3 years' time - they just held his application for about 2 years, so he can rack up reckonable residence - post2049341.html#p2049341
They might do the same in this case.

While technically you're right about the importance of a family reunification, at the moment the reunificatino duty is satisfied by Irish government via 4EUFAM - you can stay, live and travel with your Irish citizen child.