Citizenship timeline tracker.

Regarding the website.. a couple of years ago there was a website that advised people not to move to Canada and contained a large amount of testimonials, their problem was that PhD graduates were driving taxis etc I also recalled that they got quite a bit of attention as a result.

You dont need to make a website particularly negative, but there should be a place for people to tell the truth of what their experience in Ireland has been like, and this will allow other people considering the move to think carefully about their decision.

joesoap101 wrote:Regarding the website.. a couple of years ago there was a website that advised people not to move to Canada and contained a large amount of testimonials, their problem was that PhD graduates were driving taxis etc I also recalled that they got quite a bit of attention as a result.

You dont need to make a website particularly negative, but there should be a place for people to tell the truth of what their experience in Ireland has been like, and this will allow other people considering the move to think carefully about their decision.

Thanks joesoap101. Will keep this in mind. Project ongoing. Will inform all when its ready.

Applications for naturalisation received in November 2005 are currently being processed

It seems that things are picking up some speed in the INIS .

I was wondering if anyone has any experience with applying for a "Without Condition as to Time" Endorsement in his/her passport. Does that need to have an LTR as a precondition. How do they consider the eight years?. Is that the period between your first arrival in Ireland up to the time of application or Is it caluclated based on the stamps in the passport?. INIS website has pretty basic info on this and you know what it means to try to ring them!.

Anyway, if anyone has any information to share that would be brilliant.

Hang in there folks

This is all they have on the website. Looks like you can only apply through the post.


Without Condition As To Time Endorsements
Categories of qualifying persons

1. Applicant has resided in the legally in the State more than eight years
2. Applicant has previous passport endorsement

If you have completed 8 years legal residency in Ireland excluding student conditions you may qualify for a "Without Condition as to Time" endorsement. In order for this office to ensure that you qualify for a "Without Condition As To Time" endorsement you are required to submit the following original documents:-

1. All expired passports in respect of yourself, since arriving in the State
2. Your current passport

New applications for Without Condition As To Time endorsements can be obtained only by post.

Renewal of Without Condition As To Time endorsements can be made by appointment or by post.
Appointments are available on Tuesday or Thursday mornings from 10.00am until 11.30am.
Applicants can arrange appointments by telephone via the Immigration Helpline, (01) 6167700, Option No. 3 (3).

Alternatively, individuals may make an application in writing by registered post to;

Without Condition Endorsement Section
INIS
3rd Floor
13 - 14 Burgh Quay
Dublin 2

Accompanied by the relevant documentation and a short covering note including all their contact details.

It would seem that the permission to remain without condition as to time application is for persons not wanting to apply for citizenship.


Long-Term Residency
If you have lived and worked in Ireland for a total of 5 years (60 months) you can write to the Department of Justice, Equality and Law Reform (DoJELR) to ask them to grant you long-term residency. Photocopies should be made of all stamps in your passport and submitted as evidence that you have worked and resided in Ireland for 60 months. If granted long-term residency, you must bring your reply letter from the DoJELR to the GNIB or local immigration officer and ask them to change the stamp in your passport to a Stamp 4. Long-term residency is not the same as naturalisation: you do not become an Irish citizen, but you are given a longer-term stamp in your passport and you will no longer require a permit to work in Ireland. A person living in Ireland for 8 years or more who does not wish to apply for Citizenship can get a Stamp 6 in their passport, giving them permission to remain without condition as to time - i.e. indefinitely

It would seem that the permission to remain without condition as to time application is for persons not wanting to apply for citizenship.

I think that you can only apply for one or the other, not both. They may even come back to you requesting that you send in a letter stating one or the other, thus delaying the process even longer.

You can apply for both and it will create no additional problems. Some people do not wish to become Irish citizens and they would prefer this route, however they would not be prevented from applying for citizenship if they were to change their mind in the future.

INIS Web Site update:


http://www.inis.gov.ie/en/INIS/Pages/Co ... %20Section
Applications for naturalisation received in November 2005 are currently being processed.

Is it True?

Yes, its true that they are now processing Nov 2005 applications. I've applied in last week of Nov 2005 and I got a letter from them 2 days back asking for more docs.

I applied in Nov 2006 (note the year 2006) and I heard from them 2 weeks back asking for more docs

I applied in Sept 05 , I did get a acknowledgement letter that they received the additonal documents requested but no word on when a descion will be reached and now the website shows processing Nov 05 applications so I guess the descion timelines are not reflected on the updates on the website , but they indicate they are processing the applications in the period. I have no idea when i might expect to receive a descion ..........

GG

Guess-Any-Name wrote:I applied in Nov 2006 (note the year 2006) and I heard from them 2 weeks back asking for more docs

Good on you mate ..... a year ahead of everyone
did you get your application escalated OR sent letters asking for updates ??
OR Just by LUCK

Anyways BEST OF LUCK

Details here
http://www.immigrationboards.com/viewtopic.php?t=26925

Folks,

What additional documents are they asking to provide? It is possible that they are just checking whether you are still in the country or not.

Regards

In most cases they are asking for sworn affidavits for birth and marriage certs as these documents issued by other countries are not in an acceptable format for the DoJ's citizenship process.

strongbow wrote:In most cases they are asking for sworn affidavits for birth and marriage certs as these documents issued by other countries are not in an acceptable format for the DoJ's citizenship process.

Agree! DOB for my case too.

So, how do you arrange for sworn Affidavit? Is it from Solicitor?

Regards

Guess-Any-Name wrote:

strongbow wrote:In most cases they are asking for sworn affidavits for birth and marriage certs as these documents issued by other countries are not in an acceptable format for the DoJ's citizenship process.

Agree! DOB for my case too.

Yes, you fill up the form and your solicitor sign's it off.

Thanks. Final Question. What about Police Clearance Certificate?

golwaycat wrote:Yes, you fill up the form and your solicitor sign's it off.

You need to apply in the countries you lived...

Thanks. But, I wanted to know whether you were asked produce the same for Citizenship application.

Regards

Guess-Any-Name wrote:You need to apply in the countries you lived...

no

By the way any idea as to how long it takes after the affidavits are submitted to obtain the cert of naturalisation??

Someone mentioned here before that time end to end (when DOJ starts looking at one's papers and one gets the naturalisation) is 4 weeks?

Maybe I am wrong...