delay in citizenship application - applied in 2016

Samfv · Post by **Samfv** » Thu Feb 21, 2019 7:36 pm

Hey guys,

So I applied based on Irish assossiation, I was already on stage two, I was asked for information for the last 5 years. I thought it was too much tbh since when I applied in 2016 none of this was requested. Again that office is all over the place. And I seeked internal review myself, will wait a month now and if nothing happens I’ll look for legal advice.

rockyguy · Post by **rockyguy** » Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:47 pm

Any news guys any progress on your application. I heard ceremony is going to be on 29th april 2019 i am waiting nearly 3 years now. Losing all hopes

Finepaddy · Post by **Finepaddy** » Sun Feb 24, 2019 12:32 pm

Dear Sir,

Thanks for meeting me on last Friday, here is a points I discussed with you to ask in parliament.
I applied citizenship in Sep 2017 and till date I m waiting for citizenship approval as I came to Ireland in 2009 and these 10 years I don't have any criminal record or I never got any single cent on any kind of benefit from Government.
On INIS web site its clearly said for straight forward cases they have decision in 6 months but here I m still waiting after 15 months.
Department of justice says citizenship is a privilege not a right, I have no problem with that but than why it's taking soo long to take decisions on any individual application, I know many people who are waiting from last two and half years, when it comes to minster of Finance wife application then no one tell her citizenship is privilege not a right ? Did she wait more than 15 months or department of justice deal her application with in 6 months ?
I feel like after living in Ireland from last 10 years department of justice is making fun out of us, after 10 years law fully resident I still cant call my self Irish citizen and it's a shame.
When ever I tried to reach Citizenship department I always get copy pasted reply that they need to to background checks from different departments, I have no issues with that but than how u justify 15 months delay?
As a part of immigrants community I can tell you we was very pleased with Alan Shatter, he reduced citizenship time from 3 year to with in 6 months but after him it was francess Fitzgerald and current minister of justice who created back log again.
In last few citizenship ceremonies we see lot of British and EU people applying citizenship but I wonder do they have any more rights than any non EU?
Right now it's very clear that Gov want to talk about integration and immigrants but when its come to real work then we have to wait for citizenship for long time.
When its come to photoshoots then nearly every minster wants to stand beside Ibrahim Halawa but then you forget that Ibrahim halawa gets you on newspaper but he wont gets you any votes in next Election.
So please I want to request if you raise these concerns in parliament questions and if Minster of Justice can answer these questions.

Thanks

Please copy paste above email and send it to ur local TDs
These type of email wont effect your citizenship application, they will create some pressure when they see these emails again and again.

iceice304 · Post by **iceice304** » Tue Feb 26, 2019 2:05 am

This is what I got in reply to my email.

Thank you for your email. The position of your application remains as
stated in our letter dated the 30/10/18. The office will be in touch with
you in due course.

Regards

Citizenship Helpdesk
Team 1

Applied in Nov 16, Advantage stage letter on 30/10/18

iceice304 · Post by **iceice304** » Tue Feb 26, 2019 5:47 pm

Today the lady on the phone told that my application is being prepared for submission to the minister.
TBH can’t be sure re: the honesty and truth as per the experience of people on these forums. But that was the first time I got this answer.

Paddy_Leprechaun · Post by **Paddy_Leprechaun** » Tue Feb 26, 2019 6:35 pm

To be honest, your application starts getting prepared for submission to the Minister from the day it moves from the initial stage to the second stage

I hope you get your decision soon, but all these statements don't mean anything new.

Samfv · Post by **Samfv** » Tue Feb 26, 2019 11:09 pm

Jamalk · Post by **Jamalk** » Tue Feb 26, 2019 11:14 pm

Captainf wrote: ↑
Wed Feb 13, 2019 9:46 pm
... I applied in November 2016. Got Second stage letter in December 2016. Apparently straight forward application. Nothing since except copy paste emails and letters. Recently asked my TD to inquire about the delay. Same copy paste reply to him as well. Tomorrow I'm going to ask for copy of my file under FOI Act. Let's see what they come up again with. Totally frustrated.

Hello everybody. Today I got my decision after solicitor got leave in the high court to apply got judicial review. My solicitor was so right. As soon as I took my case to the high court they granted me citizenship. 3.5k later but my worries are over.

Jamalk · Post by **Jamalk** » Tue Feb 26, 2019 11:22 pm

Hello everybody. Thought you would all like to know that I got my decision today. I have been granted citizenship and I am happy

I took
The judicial review case in the end and my solicitor and barrister got leave of the court for me to do judicial review. Then the citizenship department granted my application just as I was told that they would. It has cost me financially and emotionally but I got there. I can get on with my life and my medical career now. I don’t have to worry about my non-eea status anymore. I have the same training opportunity as my Irish and eu colleagues. It was worth it. 3.5k for the legal fees because the court will not a grant Costs against the state because they say that the decision was going to be made anyway and judicial review made no difference. I don’t believe them. If I did not do this I would not have my citizenship now. Hats off to my solicitor. A very clever and experienced lady.

Post by **littlerr** » Wed Feb 27, 2019 12:00 am

Jamalk wrote: ↑
Tue Feb 26, 2019 11:22 pm
Hello everybody. Thought you would all like to know that I got my decision today. I have been granted citizenship and I am happy I took
The judicial review case in the end and my solicitor and barrister got leave of the court for me to do judicial review. Then the citizenship department granted my application just as I was told that they would. It has cost me financially and emotionally but I got there. I can get on with my life and my medical career now. I don’t have to worry about my non-eea status anymore. I have the same training opportunity as my Irish and eu colleagues. It was worth it. 3.5k for the legal fees because the court will not a grant Costs against the state because they say that the decision was going to be made anyway and judicial review made no difference. I don’t believe them. If I did not do this I would not have my citizenship now. Hats off to my solicitor. A very clever and experienced lady.

Congratulations! So you asked the solicitor to apply for judicial review 2 weeks ago, and you got your approval today?! That's super fast even in INIS's normal standards. It often takes more than 2 weeks for them to acknowledge something...

rockyguy · Post by **rockyguy** » Wed Feb 27, 2019 12:06 am

Jamalk wrote: ↑
Tue Feb 26, 2019 11:22 pm
Hello everybody. Thought you would all like to know that I got my decision today. I have been granted citizenship and I am happy I took
The judicial review case in the end and my solicitor and barrister got leave of the court for me to do judicial review. Then the citizenship department granted my application just as I was told that they would. It has cost me financially and emotionally but I got there. I can get on with my life and my medical career now. I don’t have to worry about my non-eea status anymore. I have the same training opportunity as my Irish and eu colleagues. It was worth it. 3.5k for the legal fees because the court will not a grant Costs against the state because they say that the decision was going to be made anyway and judicial review made no difference. I don’t believe them. If I did not do this I would not have my citizenship now. Hats off to my solicitor. A very clever and experienced lady.

Congratulations for your approval and grant of your citizenship. Bro would you please share your solicitor/Barrister name in private? I would like to do the same. Thats my last correspondence with the department.

"I am directed by the Minister for Justice and Equality to refer to your application for natualisation.

I acknowledge your correspondence received in this Office re, the status of your Citizenship Application as outlined to xxxxx Solicitor in my correspondence of 30/10/2018, the delay in processing your application is regretted however it is the case that when an application is submitted to the Minister we are obliged to ensure that all relevant information is available to the Minister in order for him to make a fully informed decision. Your Citizenship Application is at an advanced stage of assessment. Your patience is appreciated in this matter"

Team 1

What do u think guys?

Statusquo73 · Post by **Statusquo73** » Wed Feb 27, 2019 12:45 pm

Rockguy.

Just get a solicitor. This is ridiculous.
Their answer is a template.
I would push them a lot.

Statusquo73 · Post by **Statusquo73** » Wed Feb 27, 2019 12:47 pm

Jamalk wrote: ↑
Tue Feb 26, 2019 11:22 pm
Hello everybody. Thought you would all like to know that I got my decision today. I have been granted citizenship and I am happy I took
The judicial review case in the end and my solicitor and barrister got leave of the court for me to do judicial review. Then the citizenship department granted my application just as I was told that they would. It has cost me financially and emotionally but I got there. I can get on with my life and my medical career now. I don’t have to worry about my non-eea status anymore. I have the same training opportunity as my Irish and eu colleagues. It was worth it. 3.5k for the legal fees because the court will not a grant Costs against the state because they say that the decision was going to be made anyway and judicial review made no difference. I don’t believe them. If I did not do this I would not have my citizenship now. Hats off to my solicitor. A very clever and experienced lady.

Congrats Jamalk.
Very well deserved. It is sad that you went through legal way but they didnt leave you any choice.
Probably this will be our case too.

Jamalk · Post by **Jamalk** » Wed Feb 27, 2019 2:01 pm

rockyguy wrote: ↑
Wed Feb 27, 2019 12:06 am

Jamalk wrote: ↑
Tue Feb 26, 2019 11:22 pm
Hello everybody. Thought you would all like to know that I got my decision today. I have been granted citizenship and I am happy I took
The judicial review case in the end and my solicitor and barrister got leave of the court for me to do judicial review. Then the citizenship department granted my application just as I was told that they would. It has cost me financially and emotionally but I got there. I can get on with my life and my medical career now. I don’t have to worry about my non-eea status anymore. I have the same training opportunity as my Irish and eu colleagues. It was worth it. 3.5k for the legal fees because the court will not a grant Costs against the state because they say that the decision was going to be made anyway and judicial review made no difference. I don’t believe them. If I did not do this I would not have my citizenship now. Hats off to my solicitor. A very clever and experienced lady.
Congratulations for your approval and grant of your citizenship. Bro would you please share your solicitor/Barrister name in private? I would like to do the same. Thats my last correspondence with the department.

"I am directed by the Minister for Justice and Equality to refer to your application for natualisation.

I acknowledge your correspondence received in this Office re, the status of your Citizenship Application as outlined to xxxxx Solicitor in my correspondence of 30/10/2018, the delay in processing your application is regretted however it is the case that when an application is submitted to the Minister we are obliged to ensure that all relevant information is available to the Minister in order for him to make a fully informed decision. Your Citizenship Application is at an advanced stage of assessment. Your patience is appreciated in this matter"

Team 1

What do u think guys?

Sorry the administration does not allow me to private message you. I would if it was not for that.
My solicitor is on Dublin south side and she has been there for years doing immigration. She has dark curly hair and brown eyed. Possibly Jewish but I am not sure. I hope this information helps you. I got that “advanced stage” line you. After 6 months i was still waiting

Anira · Post by **Anira** » Wed Feb 27, 2019 3:42 pm

Jamalk wrote: ↑
Tue Feb 26, 2019 11:22 pm
Hello everybody. Thought you would all like to know that I got my decision today. I have been granted citizenship and I am happy I took
The judicial review case in the end and my solicitor and barrister got leave of the court for me to do judicial review. Then the citizenship department granted my application just as I was told that they would. It has cost me financially and emotionally but I got there. I can get on with my life and my medical career now. I don’t have to worry about my non-eea status anymore. I have the same training opportunity as my Irish and eu colleagues. It was worth it. 3.5k for the legal fees because the court will not a grant Costs against the state because they say that the decision was going to be made anyway and judicial review made no difference. I don’t believe them. If I did not do this I would not have my citizenship now. Hats off to my solicitor. A very clever and experienced lady.

Forgive my ignorance, but did they ever disclose during the review the reasons as to why there was such a delay, or they just sent the approval letter?

Finepaddy · Post by **Finepaddy** » Wed Feb 27, 2019 3:46 pm

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Jamalk · Post by **Jamalk** » Wed Feb 27, 2019 10:13 pm

They never disclosed the reason for the delay Anira. Finepaddy: According to my legal team, the citizenship dept delay applications from Pakistan and Afghanistan much more than other Countries that they have seen delays.. she is owner of the firm and there are other immigration solicitors in the firm
Alos. I hope you all get what you are looking for, good luck with it all.

kseni · Post by **kseni** » Thu Feb 28, 2019 10:51 am

Don’t know if it’s any good news but the lady on the phone just told me that teh supervisors are doing final checks on my application at the moment to submit it to the minister later.
Also don’t know what’s the timeframe for these checks and how fast it’s being submitted and how fast he makes his decision.
Anyway told me the letter with updated status should be with me shortly

Spire01 · Post by **Spire01** » Thu Feb 28, 2019 10:54 am

kseni wrote: ↑
Thu Feb 28, 2019 10:51 am
Don’t know if it’s any good news but the lady on the phone just told me that teh supervisors are doing final checks on my application at the moment to submit it to the minister later.
Also don’t know what’s the timeframe for these checks and how fast it’s being submitted and how fast he makes his decision.
Anyway told me the letter with updated status should be with me shortly

Hi Kseni,
can you please let me know when did you apply?
Thanks.

Spire01 · Post by **Spire01** » Thu Feb 28, 2019 10:56 am

Spire01 wrote: ↑
Thu Feb 28, 2019 10:54 am

kseni wrote: ↑
Thu Feb 28, 2019 10:51 am
Don’t know if it’s any good news but the lady on the phone just told me that teh supervisors are doing final checks on my application at the moment to submit it to the minister later.
Also don’t know what’s the timeframe for these checks and how fast it’s being submitted and how fast he makes his decision.
Anyway told me the letter with updated status should be with me shortly
Hi Kseni,
can you please let me know when did you apply?
Thanks.

sorry, i meant which month in 2016?

kseni · Post by **kseni** » Thu Feb 28, 2019 10:57 am

Jan 4, 2017, but I’m hanging in this thread as it’s almost 2016;)

Spire01 · Post by **Spire01** » Thu Feb 28, 2019 10:58 am

kseni wrote: ↑
Thu Feb 28, 2019 10:57 am
Jan 4, 2017, but I’m hanging in this thread as it’s almost 2016;)

thanks, hope you get your approval soon..

Jamalk · Post by **Jamalk** » Thu Feb 28, 2019 7:50 pm

I also got letters to say that my application was being submitted to the minister for a decision and I waited for almost 6 months. They just tell you that to stop you from becoming legal. Sorry to give you back news but from taking to a lot of people and from my own experience you could be waiting a long time. Give it a month and see what happens? Good luck

Jamalk · Post by **Jamalk** » Fri Mar 01, 2019 7:20 am

Jamalk wrote: ↑
Wed Feb 27, 2019 2:01 pm

rockyguy wrote: ↑
Wed Feb 27, 2019 12:06 am

Jamalk wrote: ↑
Tue Feb 26, 2019 11:22 pm
Hello everybody. Thought you would all like to know that I got my decision today. I have been granted citizenship and I am happy I took
The judicial review case in the end and my solicitor and barrister got leave of the court for me to do judicial review. Then the citizenship department granted my application just as I was told that they would. It has cost me financially and emotionally but I got there. I can get on with my life and my medical career now. I don’t have to worry about my non-eea status anymore. I have the same training opportunity as my Irish and eu colleagues. It was worth it. 3.5k for the legal fees because the court will not a grant Costs against the state because they say that the decision was going to be made anyway and judicial review made no difference. I don’t believe them. If I did not do this I would not have my citizenship now. Hats off to my solicitor. A very clever and experienced lady.
Congratulations for your approval and grant of your citizenship. Bro would you please share your solicitor/Barrister name in private? I would like to do the same. Thats my last correspondence with the department.

"I am directed by the Minister for Justice and Equality to refer to your application for natualisation.

I acknowledge your correspondence received in this Office re, the status of your Citizenship Application as outlined to xxxxx Solicitor in my correspondence of 30/10/2018, the delay in processing your application is regretted however it is the case that when an application is submitted to the Minister we are obliged to ensure that all relevant information is available to the Minister in order for him to make a fully informed decision. Your Citizenship Application is at an advanced stage of assessment. Your patience is appreciated in this matter"

Team 1

What do u think guys?
Sorry the administration does not allow me to private message you. I would if it was not for that.
My solicitor is on Dublin south side and she has been there for years doing immigration. She has dark curly hair and brown eyed. Possibly Jewish but I am not sure. She is also the owner of the firm. I hope this information helps you. I got that “advanced stage” line you. After 6 months i was still waiting

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