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Re: delay in citizenship application - applied in 2016

Post by Jamalk » Sun May 19, 2019 6:49 am

Paddy_Leprechaun wrote:
Tue Mar 05, 2019 11:35 am
Captainf wrote:
Tue Mar 05, 2019 10:59 am
Applied in Nov 2016. Rang today to get an update the lady on phone said waiting Foreign Agency Report to further process your app as I said the has been said several times before as well, she then said we have requested a fresh one on 13th feb.
While they sent several letters before that your app is being prepared for submission in 2017 and 18.


If the flag attached to your account is truly representing your country of origin, then it is kind of obvious that they are discriminating you based on your country of origin. Pity that the approach followed by the department seems to play a waiting game and keep people waiting indefinitely till either they leave the country or go for legal action...
Yes many people I know from Pakistan are waiting for 2-3 years and longer and other countries do not take so long. You are correct.

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Re: delay in citizenship application - applied in 2016

Post by aneelrahim » Sun May 19, 2019 10:34 am

Jamalk wrote:
Sun May 19, 2019 6:49 am
Paddy_Leprechaun wrote:
Tue Mar 05, 2019 11:35 am
Captainf wrote:
Tue Mar 05, 2019 10:59 am
Applied in Nov 2016. Rang today to get an update the lady on phone said waiting Foreign Agency Report to further process your app as I said the has been said several times before as well, she then said we have requested a fresh one on 13th feb.
While they sent several letters before that your app is being prepared for submission in 2017 and 18.


If the flag attached to your account is truly representing your country of origin, then it is kind of obvious that they are discriminating you based on your country of origin. Pity that the approach followed by the department seems to play a waiting game and keep people waiting indefinitely till either they leave the country or go for legal action...
Yes many people I know from Pakistan are waiting for 2-3 years and longer and other countries do not take so long. You are correct.
People from Pakistan have special treatment here. The last ceremony in April doesn't mention how many people get citizenship from Pakistan. The minimum number is 61 people from China so I assume people from Pakistan are less than 30 that get citizenship. So I think we have to create thread to discuss the experience from Pakistan.

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Re: delay in citizenship application - applied in 2016

Post by RajSingh1 » Thu May 23, 2019 11:01 am

Hi did anyone get invitation to the June ceremony.

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Re: delay in citizenship application - applied in 2016

Post by Fountainhill » Thu May 23, 2019 5:13 pm

Hi I dont think so.. I am also waiting in anticipation

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Re: delay in citizenship application - applied in 2016

Post by Finepaddy » Thu May 23, 2019 10:31 pm

Makhtar8155 wrote:
Thu May 16, 2019 6:55 pm
Hi guys i had appt with my solicitor he is agree to go to high court but he was asking €3000.thats too much do anybody know any cheap immigration lawyer.
3000 is too much, I know some one who take around bajwa500 and the rest amout they get from department if case continue to high court but dont know how I can pass his details to u.

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Re: delay in citizenship application - applied in 2016

Post by Obie » Thu May 23, 2019 10:46 pm

No one can publish solicitors details on the forum. This is impermissible.
After thinking long and hard, I have come to the conclusion that brexit is a cancer. The only good brexit is a dead brexit.

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Re: delay in citizenship application - applied in 2016

Post by Makhtar8155 » Fri May 24, 2019 3:15 pm

Finepaddy wrote:
Thu May 23, 2019 10:31 pm
Makhtar8155 wrote:
Thu May 16, 2019 6:55 pm
Hi guys i had appt with my solicitor he is agree to go to high court but he was asking €3000.thats too much do anybody know any cheap immigration lawyer.
3000 is too much, I know some one who take around bajwa500 and the rest amout they get from department if case continue to high court but dont know how I can pass his details to u.
Can we ask to admin to pass the details of that solicitor?

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Re: delay in citizenship application - applied in 2016

Post by Finepaddy » Fri May 24, 2019 4:03 pm

Yes no one that's why didn't mention his address

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Re: delay in citizenship application - applied in 2016

Post by Alixlboy » Fri May 24, 2019 8:18 pm

aneelrahim wrote:
Sun May 19, 2019 10:34 am
Jamalk wrote:
Sun May 19, 2019 6:49 am
Paddy_Leprechaun wrote:
Tue Mar 05, 2019 11:35 am
Captainf wrote:
Tue Mar 05, 2019 10:59 am
Applied in Nov 2016. Rang today to get an update the lady on phone said waiting Foreign Agency Report to further process your app as I said the has been said several times before as well, she then said we have requested a fresh one on 13th feb.
While they sent several letters before that your app is being prepared for submission in 2017 and 18.


If the flag attached to your account is truly representing your country of origin, then it is kind of obvious that they are discriminating you based on your country of origin. Pity that the approach followed by the department seems to play a waiting game and keep people waiting indefinitely till either they leave the country or go for legal action...
Yes many people I know from Pakistan are waiting for 2-3 years and longer and other countries do not take so long. You are correct.
People from Pakistan have special treatment here. The last ceremony in April doesn't mention how many people get citizenship from Pakistan. The minimum number is 61 people from China so I assume people from Pakistan are less than 30 that get citizenship. So I think we have to create thread to discuss the experience from Pakistan.
Agreed. If I get treated like that, I would even get some posters, gather my friends and go outside their burgh Quay office for a protest.
People did that and got rid of the stupid re entry visas.
INIS have this childish excuse that citizenship is not a right, but a privilege. They do forget that protesting against discrimination is our right though.
No countries including Pakistan should be discriminated. Pakistanis pay the taxes in this country as well, just like any other nationalities.

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Re: delay in citizenship application - applied in 2016

Post by Makhtar8155 » Sat May 25, 2019 3:57 pm

Obie wrote:
Thu May 23, 2019 10:46 pm
No one can publish solicitors details on the forum. This is impermissible.
Can you please pass the solicitor details to me .Ta

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Re: delay in citizenship application - applied in 2016

Post by CR001 » Sat May 25, 2019 9:49 pm

Makhtar8155 wrote:
Sat May 25, 2019 3:57 pm
Obie wrote:
Thu May 23, 2019 10:46 pm
No one can publish solicitors details on the forum. This is impermissible.
Can you please pass the solicitor details to me .Ta
Read what obie has posted again so that you are clear that solicitor details are NOT permitted to be posted on the forum!!!
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Re: delay in citizenship application - applied in 2016

Post by markem » Mon May 27, 2019 2:39 pm

aneelrahim wrote:
Sun May 19, 2019 10:34 am
People from Pakistan have special treatment here. The last ceremony in April doesn't mention how many people get citizenship from Pakistan. The minimum number is 61 people from China so I assume people from Pakistan are less than 30 that get citizenship. So I think we have to create thread to discuss the experience from Pakistan.
I am not sure you can argue that there is special treatment just on the basis of numbers at ceremonies. I understand that you have experienced a long time for approval, but just looking at the numbers from the last ceremony doesn't make the point as in previous ceremonies there have been many more from Pakistan. 115 in the November 2018 ceremony, and 147 in May 2018 Ceremony.

As a point of comparison, there were 84 and 87 in each ceremony from China. If I look at 2016 census, there were 9,600 Chinese nationals and 7,400 Pakistani nationals in Ireland.

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Re: delay in citizenship application - applied in 2016

Post by Obie » Mon May 27, 2019 3:24 pm

According to the 2016 Census report, there are actually 12,891 Pakistani National living in Ireland, an increase of about 5k since 2011. Therefore your figure of the population of Pakistani is much lower than it actually is.
After thinking long and hard, I have come to the conclusion that brexit is a cancer. The only good brexit is a dead brexit.

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Re: delay in citizenship application - applied in 2016

Post by markem » Mon May 27, 2019 3:42 pm

Obie wrote:
Mon May 27, 2019 3:24 pm
According to the 2016 Census report, there are actually 12,891 Pakistani National living in Ireland, an increase of about 5k since 2011. Therefore your figure of the population of Pakistani is much lower than it actually is.
Interesting - can you link to the report?

I am looking at Statbank table E7002 "Population Usually Resident and Present in the State 2011 to 2016 by Nationality, Sex, County of Usual Residence and Census Year"

Also this link has the same number.

In there, I can see: 2011 (6,847) and 2016 (7,351). There is also a number in 2016 of 2,769 Irish-Pakistani. I left this out of my earlier post as this would seem to be people from Pakistan who already have Irish citizenship. That's a total of 10,120 so still not close to your number.

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Re: delay in citizenship application - applied in 2016

Post by Obie » Mon May 27, 2019 3:54 pm

https://www.cso.ie/en/media/csoie/relea ... ersity.pdf

see page 2.

One must note that it is people born in Pakistan, who will usually be Pakistani anyway, unless they are of Afghani origin born in Pakistan.

I accept that some may hold UK nationality also and included in the count. So you figure in the end may be correct.
After thinking long and hard, I have come to the conclusion that brexit is a cancer. The only good brexit is a dead brexit.

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Re: delay in citizenship application - applied in 2016

Post by rockyguy » Mon May 27, 2019 7:35 pm

Obie wrote:
Mon May 27, 2019 3:54 pm
https://www.cso.ie/en/media/csoie/relea ... ersity.pdf

see page 2.

One must note that it is people born in Pakistan, who will usually be Pakistani anyway, unless they are of Afghani origin born in Pakistan.

I accept that some may hold UK nationality also and included in the count. So you figure in the end may be correct.
Guys department dont want to give any decisions on ur cases. If they wanted they would have dont it already. This delay is on purpose not processing anything. Please guys we all have to go to court and organize some protest against the negligence of the department.

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Re: delay in citizenship application - applied in 2016

Post by Obie » Mon May 27, 2019 8:30 pm

Have you contacted your TD or written to the department of justice to seek an update or explanation?
After thinking long and hard, I have come to the conclusion that brexit is a cancer. The only good brexit is a dead brexit.

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Re: delay in citizenship application - applied in 2016

Post by rockyguy » Tue May 28, 2019 3:46 am

Obie wrote:
Mon May 27, 2019 8:30 pm
Have you contacted your TD or written to the department of justice to seek an update or explanation?
I did it last year. TD got the same copy paste reply. No gain. TD cant do anything. If you know you are a genuine applicant and confident about your case so come forward and take a legal action in the form of JR ( Judicial review ) or the protest. Involve social media aswell.

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Re: delay in citizenship application - applied in 2016

Post by aneelrahim » Tue May 28, 2019 9:22 am

markem wrote:
Mon May 27, 2019 2:39 pm
aneelrahim wrote:
Sun May 19, 2019 10:34 am
People from Pakistan have special treatment here. The last ceremony in April doesn't mention how many people get citizenship from Pakistan. The minimum number is 61 people from China so I assume people from Pakistan are less than 30 that get citizenship. So I think we have to create thread to discuss the experience from Pakistan.
I am not sure you can argue that there is special treatment just on the basis of numbers at ceremonies. I understand that you have experienced a long time for approval, but just looking at the numbers from the last ceremony doesn't make the point as in previous ceremonies there have been many more from Pakistan. 115 in the November 2018 ceremony, and 147 in May 2018 Ceremony.

As a point of comparison, there were 84 and 87 in each ceremony from China. If I look at 2016 census, there were 9,600 Chinese nationals and 7,400 Pakistani nationals in Ireland.
Hi Markam
My comparison is not on the basis of number of ppl in ceremony.

PPl from Pakistan get citizenship but normally waiting more then 15 months. Have you find anyone get earlier than it

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Re: delay in citizenship application - applied in 2016

Post by markem » Tue May 28, 2019 9:34 am

aneelrahim wrote:
Sun May 19, 2019 10:34 am
People from Pakistan have special treatment here. The last ceremony in April doesn't mention how many people get citizenship from Pakistan. The minimum number is 61 people from China so I assume people from Pakistan are less than 30 that get citizenship.
aneelrahim wrote:
Tue May 28, 2019 9:22 am
My comparison is not on the basis of number of ppl in ceremony.
I was commenting on what you wrote which was about the number of people in the last ceremony from Pakistan compared to the number of people from China.
aneelrahim wrote:
Tue May 28, 2019 9:22 am
PPl from Pakistan get citizenship but normally waiting more then 15 months. Have you find anyone get earlier than it
No. But I'm not sure anyone has facts on that by country of origin.

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