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Etaa
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Documents not returned after Irish visa refusal

Post by Etaa » Thu May 27, 2021 4:39 pm

Hi everyone

After my wife applied for a EU spouse Irish visa in October we got a refusal letter on 27th April stating the Ministry of Foreign Affairs in Nigeria did not certify our marriage certificate. I am a British citizen and we are now under the Withdrawal Agreement. We want to appeal and were told in the refusal letter that we can with 2 months.

They haven't returned our documents.
Shesent an email to the Irish Embassy we submitted the visa application ( Abuja ) last week to kindly return our documents but no response yet.

Please is this normal??

We have 1 month to appeal and the Embassy has not returned the documents. Please advise where we have missed it?

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Re: Documents not returned after Irish visa refusal

Post by avta » Thu May 27, 2021 4:55 pm

Hi,
If you document was not confirmed/certified by an issue or country authority it could be that this document was treated as fake.
If you still think that provided document was genuine, try to request the duplicate from the issue authority and use it for appeal.

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Re: Documents not returned after Irish visa refusal

Post by littlerr » Thu May 27, 2021 4:58 pm

What specific documents?

Visa offices only return original documents that cannot be easily replaced, which usually include birth certificate, marriage certificate, passport and national ID.

All other documents will be kept along with your visa application and they will not be returned, unless you have specifically mentioned which documents you wish to be returned and have paid relevant fees or provided certified copies for those documents when submitting the application.

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Re: Documents not returned after Irish visa refusal

Post by Etaa » Thu May 27, 2021 5:36 pm

avta wrote:
Thu May 27, 2021 4:55 pm
Hi,
If you document was not confirmed/certified by an issue or country authority it could be that this document was treated as fake.
If you still think that provided document was genuine, try to request the duplicate from the issue authority and use it for appeal.
Thanks for your quick response. I will. But none of the original documents have been returned, passports, original marriage certificate, etc have not been returned. Is this the normal procedure Avta?

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Re: Documents not returned after Irish visa refusal

Post by Etaa » Thu May 27, 2021 5:45 pm

littlerr wrote:
Thu May 27, 2021 4:58 pm
What specific documents?

Visa offices only return original documents that cannot be easily replaced, which usually include birth certificate, marriage certificate, passport and national ID.

All other documents will be kept along with your visa application and they will not be returned, unless you have specifically mentioned which documents you wish to be returned and have paid relevant fees or provided certified copies for those documents when submitting the application.
Thanks for helping Littlerr. None of the original documents have been returned. Passports, Marriage certificate, birth affidavit etc, not one document has been returned. All fees were paid. I thought after refusal, those documents are meant to be returned then you can decide to either appeal or not. Guys what to do you think?

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Re: Documents not returned after Irish visa refusal

Post by littlerr » Thu May 27, 2021 6:02 pm

Yes they should always be returned. I honestly don’t know what had happened. Certain visas are forwarded to the Dublin office for decision making, while the passport/certificates etc may remain with the embassy. So there is a chance that the decision and documents are sent in two separate packages. Maybe one of them got lost in transit, or maybe they haven’t sent them out at all.

You just have to keep trying to contact your local embassy. You can also send an email to the Dublin visa office visamail@justice.ie to ask them to check whether they are still holding your documents.

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Re: Documents not returned after Irish visa refusal

Post by Etaa » Thu May 27, 2021 7:24 pm

littlerr wrote:
Thu May 27, 2021 6:02 pm
Yes they should always be returned. I honestly don’t know what had happened. Certain visas are forwarded to the Dublin office for decision making, while the passport/certificates etc may remain with the embassy. So there is a chance that the decision and documents are sent in two separate packages. Maybe one of them got lost in transit, or maybe they haven’t sent them out at all.

You just have to keep trying to contact your local embassy. You can also send an email to the Dublin visa office visamail@justice.ie to ask them to check whether they are still holding your documents.
Yup Littlerr I think I will send an email to Dublin and cc Abuja as well tomorrow. Good idea 💡. I'll keep you posted.

Cheers

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