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Does the Irish Residence Permit have a common format pursuant to council regulation (EC) no. 1030/2002?

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Re: Does the Irish Residence Permit have a common format pursuant to council regulation (EC) no. 1030/2002?

Post by Angel99 » Mon Jan 22, 2024 1:17 pm

Hellohellohelp wrote:
Mon Jan 22, 2024 1:07 pm
Thank you for the inputs and discussions. I see the links for UK requirements. Is there an official link as well stating that IRP is a common format residence permit? I just wanted to check that as well. I don't if therr are residence permits that are not considered as common format.
Previously some EU countries didn't have same residence permit/ card. Some had a paper version, in Ireland there was GNIB card which wouldn't have even allowed you re-entry to Ireland unless you have re-entry visa.

Now all EU countries have a same type of residence permit/card.
Read about the Irish common format one below;

https://www.irishimmigration.ie/new-iri ... ntroduced/

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Re: Does the Irish Residence Permit have a common format pursuant to council regulation (EC) no. 1030/2002?

Post by littlerr » Mon Jan 22, 2024 2:01 pm

If you really clicked on the link and selected Ireland as the transit destination, it’s not easy to miss this mandatory requirement:
You must also have an Irish biometric visa (marked ‘BC’ or ‘BC BIVS’ in the ‘Remarks’ section) and an onward flight ticket to the Republic of Ireland.

As I said, transitting to Ireland is completely different from transitting to a different country. I have taken transit flights via Heathrow to Ireland hundreds of times in the last ten years. You must always pass immigration control, and you must hold a valid UK Standard Visa OR an Irish BC/BIVS visa.

I have been able to use IRP card once when I was very young and naive, and was able to get onto the transit flight to Ireland after an excruciating session with UKBA, so I don’t recommend anyone doing the same. It is against the policy but they do allow certain people to transit if they are satisfied that you won’t overstay your permission. We have similar unsuccessful attempts from people in this forum as well as half a dozen international students who happened to listen to advice from the likes of you and were deported back just last week after queuing in Heathrow for 3 hours.

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Re: Does the Irish Residence Permit have a common format pursuant to council regulation (EC) no. 1030/2002?

Post by Angel99 » Mon Jan 22, 2024 3:46 pm

littlerr wrote:
Mon Jan 22, 2024 2:01 pm
If you really clicked on the link and selected Ireland as the transit destination, it’s not easy to miss this mandatory requirement:
You must also have an Irish biometric visa (marked ‘BC’ or ‘BC BIVS’ in the ‘Remarks’ section) and an onward flight ticket to the Republic of Ireland.

As I said, transitting to Ireland is completely different from transitting to a different country. I have taken transit flights via Heathrow to Ireland hundreds of times in the last ten years. You must always pass immigration control, and you must hold a valid UK Standard Visa OR an Irish BC/BIVS visa.

I have been able to use IRP card once when I was very young and naive, and was able to get onto the transit flight to Ireland after an excruciating session with UKBA, so I don’t recommend anyone doing the same. It is against the policy but they do allow certain people to transit if they are satisfied that you won’t overstay your permission. We have similar unsuccessful attempts from people in this forum as well as half a dozen international students who happened to listen to advice from the likes of you and were deported back just last week after queuing in Heathrow for 3 hours.
TWOV (transit without visa)

..making a landside transit with a confirmed onward ticket for a flight to a third country that departs before 23:59 the next day. They must:

- have a common format residence permit issued by Ireland.

The above replaces this;

b]You must also have an Irish biometric visa (marked ‘BC’ or ‘BC BIVS’ in the ‘Remarks’ section) and an onward flight ticket to the Republic of Ireland.

You are not supposed to have both.

*You do not pass through immigration control when you are on Airside transit*

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Re: Does the Irish Residence Permit have a common format pursuant to council regulation (EC) no. 1030/2002?

Post by Angel99 » Mon Jan 22, 2024 4:09 pm

@littlerr

Maybe this will help abit

https://www.gov.uk/uk-border-control/la ... 4%20hours)

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Re: Does the Irish Residence Permit have a common format pursuant to council regulation (EC) no. 1030/2002?

Post by meself2 » Mon Jan 22, 2024 4:15 pm

The problem is that in case of Ireland you have to leave the airside zone.
As person in this thread that went through Heathrow mentions ( post2146125.html#p2146125 ):
spin3210 wrote:
Mon Jan 22, 2024 12:43 pm
We always go through immigration control on return, just before Aer Lingus flight to Cork.
So it's always at the mercy of UKVI officers.
They often let people through. But not always, and they're within the rights to turn a person on transit away.
Not a qualified immigration adviser. Use links and references given to gain confirmation and/or extra information.

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Re: Does the Irish Residence Permit have a common format pursuant to council regulation (EC) no. 1030/2002?

Post by littlerr » Mon Jan 22, 2024 6:42 pm

*You do not pass through immigration control when you are on Airside transit*
Gosh how uneducated are you? Can’t believe I’m wasting time on educating the basics.

There is no concept of airside transit from the UK to Ireland. That is never a thing since year 1923. I can’t believe I need to do an elementary history lesson.

In case you haven’t heard, Ireland, along with the Isle of Man, the Channel Islands and the UK, are all in the Common Travel Area and the UK treats all flights and ferries among these places as domestic routes.

Have you never ever taken a transit flight via the UK to Ireland? It sounds like you have never ever done or even heard of that.

You always always always go through immigration when you transit to Ireland. If you are a visa-required national, you will always always always be asked for a Standard Visitor Visa. This has been in place for the best of 30 years and have not been changed at all. It was only around 10 years ago where the UK and Ireland signed a visa deal to allow certain nationals to use an Irish visa to enter the UK.

And if you arrive in Heathrow, you must always always always queue for 2-3 hours to pass through immigration before you can proceed to see the boarding gate for any flights bound for Ireland. Our suggestion for most non-EU nationals that want to take a transit flight in the UK to Ireland is to allow at least 4 hours to pass through immigration, unless their passports are recognised by eGates. Only a handful number of countries such as Australia, Canada and the US are on that list, who wouldn’t be needing a visa anyway.

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Re: Does the Irish Residence Permit have a common format pursuant to council regulation (EC) no. 1030/2002?

Post by Angel99 » Mon Jan 22, 2024 10:54 pm

littlerr wrote:
Mon Jan 22, 2024 6:42 pm
*You do not pass through immigration control when you are on Airside transit*
Gosh how uneducated are you? Can’t believe I’m wasting time on educating the basics.

There is no concept of airside transit from the UK to Ireland. That is never a thing since year 1923. I can’t believe I need to do an elementary history lesson.

In case you haven’t heard, Ireland, along with the Isle of Man, the Channel Islands and the UK, are all in the Common Travel Area and the UK treats all flights and ferries among these places as domestic routes.

Have you never ever taken a transit flight via the UK to Ireland? It sounds like you have never ever done or even heard of that.

You always always always go through immigration when you transit to Ireland. If you are a visa-required national, you will always always always be asked for a Standard Visitor Visa. This has been in place for the best of 30 years and have not been changed at all. It was only around 10 years ago where the UK and Ireland signed a visa deal to allow certain nationals to use an Irish visa to enter the UK.

And if you arrive in Heathrow, you must always always always queue for 2-3 hours to pass through immigration before you can proceed to see the boarding gate for any flights bound for Ireland. Our suggestion for most non-EU nationals that want to take a transit flight in the UK to Ireland is to allow at least 4 hours to pass through immigration, unless their passports are recognised by eGates. Only a handful number of countries such as Australia, Canada and the US are on that list, who wouldn’t be needing a visa anyway.

I think you have a problem with understanding or you choose to interpret things in your own way.

Kindly read spin3210 message. He has also transited UK with an IRP without meeting immigration.

Probably you will call his experience blindfolded!

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