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Employe Permit and Stamp 4 ( Latest Updates

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Emr
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Re: Employe Permit and Stamp 4 ( Latest Updates

Post by Emr » Tue Mar 16, 2021 6:54 pm

@finalversion,
Sad you hear about refusal. How many time u got stamp 4 from EU review ?

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Re: Employe Permit and Stamp 4 ( Latest Updates

Post by ch123 » Wed Mar 17, 2021 6:22 pm

I was in a similar situation where my EUFam application was refused and sent to repatriation department. However, the Department was kind enough to grant me temporary stamp 2 to complete my education. When that permission was about to expire, I wrote to the repatriation department again to grant me some sort of stamp to take up an employment offer. They gave me temp stamp 1 and asked me to apply for EP which I did and successfully acquired. I suggest that if you write to repatriation dept and cite your circumstances, state that you have job offer ( which I assume you do since you are looking to apply for an EP), they might be able to help you.

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Re: Employe Permit and Stamp 4 ( Latest Updates

Post by Emr » Wed Mar 17, 2021 6:34 pm

Thanks ch123,
How long did repatriation unit took to give u temporary permission? Also was there any concerns from EU treaty regarding your marriage?

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Re: Employe Permit and Stamp 4 ( Latest Updates

Post by ch123 » Wed Mar 17, 2021 8:18 pm

Emr wrote:
Wed Mar 17, 2021 6:34 pm
Thanks ch123,
How long did repatriation unit took to give u temporary permission? Also was there any concerns from EU treaty regarding your marriage?
The repatriation unit took a few weeks. They were also aware of my refused EuFam application. My EuFam application was not based on marriage but on the basis of being a qualified family member of an EU citizen.

I believe that if you exceptional circumstances, humanitarian grounds and valid reasons and you explain them to the unit they would definitely try and put you on the right immigration footing.

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Re: Employe Permit and Stamp 4 ( Latest Updates

Post by Emr » Wed Mar 17, 2021 9:40 pm

Thanks ch123,

In your opinion can we write to repatriation unit while the case is still pending with EU Treaty right department?

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Re: Employe Permit and Stamp 4 ( Latest Updates

Post by ch123 » Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:54 am

Emr wrote:
Wed Mar 17, 2021 9:40 pm
Thanks ch123,

In your opinion can we write to repatriation unit while the case is still pending with EU Treaty right department?
You can write to them. However, I think you have to be fully refused by the Department and then they forward your file to the repatriation dept for deportation. In my case, I was fighting the EU treaty rights refusal in court. Otherwise you have to contact the Department itself because repatriation unit wouldn’t have your file.
Like I said, I had exceptional circumstances. It’s more about how accurately and precisely you explain your circumstances.

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Re: Employe Permit and Stamp 4 ( Latest Updates

Post by finalversion_2k » Thu Mar 18, 2021 9:39 am

Thanks @littlerr biggest challenge is to find right immigration solicitor, if you know any good one, please feel free to send message.. I have big list of solicitor who I met and discussed, I found them butchering clients, and make their cases worst so they can go in review and then high court so money flow keep continue..


Thanks @ch123 .. I'll really appreciate if you can answer or give your thoughts on below.

my retention application and review of retention is refused, now they suggest to fill the EU4 form in 21 days else file will be referred to Repatriation Division, should I send request to repatriation Department now??
In the event that you do not submit a request for review of this decision within the prescribed 21 days from receipt, your file will subsequently be referred to Repatriation Division and thereafter

what usually happened when you submit EU4? do they grant any permission? I heard EU4 don't get quick response, so does it worth to submit EU4?

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Re: Employe Permit and Stamp 4 ( Latest Updates

Post by finalversion_2k » Fri Mar 19, 2021 1:17 pm

ch123 wrote:
Wed Mar 17, 2021 6:22 pm
I was in a similar situation where my EUFam application was refused and sent to repatriation department. However, the Department was kind enough to grant me temporary stamp 2 to complete my education. When that permission was about to expire, I wrote to the repatriation department again to grant me some sort of stamp to take up an employment offer. They gave me temp stamp 1 and asked me to apply for EP which I did and successfully acquired. I suggest that if you write to repatriation dept and cite your circumstances, state that you have job offer ( which I assume you do since you are looking to apply for an EP), they might be able to help you.
just one more question.. did they gave you option to submit the EU4 form... OR after refusal they directly move your case repatriation department??

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Re: Employe Permit and Stamp 4 ( Latest Updates

Post by Emr » Fri Mar 19, 2021 10:27 pm

@finalversion, I never heard anyone refused from EU review given option to submit EU 4 form, after EU review refusal comes section 3, did u check with you solicitor why it is different in your case ?

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Re: Employe Permit and Stamp 4 ( Latest Updates

Post by finalversion_2k » Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:09 am

I'm not sure, I believe that might be standard way for EU5 retention refusal?

other member can guide us, may be anyone receive similar thing in past.

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Re: Employe Permit and Stamp 4 ( Latest Updates

Post by littlerr » Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:13 am

Emr wrote:
Fri Mar 19, 2021 10:27 pm
@finalversion, I never heard anyone refused from EU review given option to submit EU 4 form, after EU review refusal comes section 3, did u check with you solicitor why it is different in your case ?
EU4 is the review

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Re: Employe Permit and Stamp 4 ( Latest Updates

Post by finalversion_2k » Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:44 am

thanks @littlerr

@Emr I believe it's normal to ask to fill the EU4 form.

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Re: Employe Permit and Stamp 4 ( Latest Updates

Post by Dub2020 » Mon Mar 22, 2021 8:44 pm

@littler,

Could you please share your opinion, if someone on temporary stamp 4 from EU treaty review and the EU case is alleged marriage of convenience. If that person manage to get employment permit, will INIS allow him to get IRP card based on work permit given that existing stamp 4 from EU review and concerns regarding marriage.

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Re: Employe Permit and Stamp 4 ( Latest Updates

Post by littlerr » Mon Mar 22, 2021 11:22 pm

That judgment is pretty new and I doubt if anyone has actually managed to apply for a stamp under this judgment... so the short answer is nobody knows.

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Re: Employe Permit and Stamp 4 ( Latest Updates

Post by Emr » Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:15 pm

Hi All,

Does anyone applied work permit based on stamp 4 recently if so what was the outcome?

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Re: Employe Permit and Stamp 4 ( Latest Updates

Post by finalversion_2k » Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:11 am

well I was planning to do I met solicitor, took Offer letter from work and then they hit me with refusal/revocation of temp stamp4.. so I stop there then.

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Re: Employe Permit and Stamp 4 ( Latest Updates

Post by Emr » Mon Apr 12, 2021 11:49 am

Sorry to hear that @finalversion, can you not apply based on automatic temporary permission given by minister until September 2021?

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Re: Employe Permit and Stamp 4 ( Latest Updates

Post by finalversion_2k » Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:41 pm

automatic temporary permission is for those who have valid permissions.. where as mine one is revoked. so no point to apply.

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Re: Employe Permit and Stamp 4 ( Latest Updates

Post by Emr » Sat Apr 24, 2021 1:46 am

Hi All,

Has anyone applied work permit based on existing stamp 4? If so what was the outcome?

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Re: Employe Permit and Stamp 4 ( Latest Updates

Post by Emr » Sat May 01, 2021 9:27 pm

Hi all,

Have someone manage to apply employment permit based on temperary stamp 4 from EU treaty review if so what was the outcome? Would really like to hear on this , as alot of members would benefit from this.

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Re: Employe Permit and Stamp 4 ( Latest Updates

Post by karen711 » Sat May 08, 2021 12:41 pm

Same as you. Waiting . I have work permit application ready to be filed . But waiting information from other boys who applied already

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Re: Employe Permit and Stamp 4 ( Latest Updates

Post by Emr » Tue May 11, 2021 12:53 am

Thanks @ karen711,
Could you please let me know once you have an update from "other boys", as I also want to apply for employment permit but waiting for an outcome of those who already applied.
Your update on this matter would be highly appreciated.

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Re: Employe Permit and Stamp 4 ( Latest Updates

Post by Emr » Sun May 23, 2021 10:07 pm

Hi karen711,

Any update from boys, have they got any response on work permit?

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Re: Employe Permit and Stamp 4 ( Latest Updates

Post by finalversion_2k » Mon May 24, 2021 8:28 am

I finally received my temp stamp4 and submitted the application for temp stamp.. Once I received temp stamp I'll submit application straight away, without any second thoughts.

but would be great if heard any successful case in meantime. please keep this post alive.

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Re: Employe Permit and Stamp 4 ( Latest Updates

Post by Emr » Mon May 24, 2021 11:06 am

Good news @finalversion, wish you a very best of luck.

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