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Re: Eu Treaty files waiting time - EU1 or EU1A

Post by Angel99 » Sat Dec 09, 2023 7:52 am

Mace_windu wrote:
Sat Dec 09, 2023 2:01 am
Angel99 wrote:
Sat Dec 09, 2023 12:54 am
Mace_windu wrote:
Fri Dec 08, 2023 3:57 pm
Angel99 wrote:
Fri Dec 08, 2023 10:13 am
Mace_windu wrote:
Fri Dec 08, 2023 8:30 am
Angel99 wrote:
Thu Nov 30, 2023 5:04 am


Best you ask for it via email and registered next day delivery post. Just say you need a temporary stamp to apply for a job. This method works mostly on EUTR1 applications.

Your letter or email should include your personal ID or application number on your acknowledgement letter, your full name and address.
I emailed them asking if they have received my application and asking for temporary permission and they responded by saying that they received the application and I should expect correspondence 4to6 weeks from date of receiving the hardcopy application. Nothing about the temporary permission
The correspondence/acknowledgement letter might come with a temporary stamp 4 letter or request for additional documents or both.
The acknowledgement letter arrived today with 9 months temporary permission. They asked for bank statements in my name. I didn't know that I could open a bank account before I had a stamp.
You can open AIB basic account online but you will need your landing stamp still valid (normally 3 months) with the wording EUTR for residence or to apply for residence endorsed as the purpose of visit. They use this as proof of residence if you don't have IRP during your 3 months of arrival.

I don't know why they asked you for your bank statement for EUTR1. Normally it's for the EU spouse.

They are aware you can not work without the IRP and all employers will ask for your IRP unless you were already in the State before you became an EU family member.

What do they need your bank statement for? Proof of residence or to show you work?

Are you sure they require the EU citizen's statement and not yours?
They said bank statement showing irish home address in the name of the applicant. Applicant was underlined. Maybe my english is failing me and I'm misunderstanding their meaning? I initiated the process with aib, I'm waiting for their response. It is baffling why they asked for that as I'm obviously not working at the moment.
Since they asked for bank statement in the name of the applicant showing your home address then I believe it's to prove your place of residence. Maybe you didn't send enough proof of address. Funnily they can issue you a stamp 4 letter to your address and still request for proof of address.

When you signup for Aib basic account through mobile app, you are signed up the same day. Mostly less than 1 hour. *All documents are scanned via their app then you have a video call to show your passport and stamp. You are able to view your account and see your IBAN. After, they send you an activation code to your address to prove you live there and you used that code to activate your account on the mobile app.

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Re: Eu Treaty files waiting time - EU1 or EU1A

Post by notme » Fri Dec 22, 2023 11:58 am

EUTR1A Application

Applied 06.09.2023 received on 07.09.2023
Acknowledgment: 06.12.2023 (after 3 months, only after asking the TD to inquire)
New Documents sent: 12.12.2023

In acknowledgment they asked for more documents. No mention of temporary permission, I understand this is a EUTR1A application and it is different.
Sent the new set of documents (parcel weighing around 2 kgs) on 12.12.2023. Now that the Christmas break is approaching. Do I have any option. I see a lot of help around EUTR1 applications but less around EUTR1A and thus I am confused and sad.

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Re: Eu Treaty files waiting time - EU1 or EU1A

Post by Angel99 » Fri Dec 22, 2023 12:36 pm

notme wrote:
Fri Dec 22, 2023 11:58 am
EUTR1A Application

Applied 06.09.2023 received on 07.09.2023
Acknowledgment: 06.12.2023 (after 3 months, only after asking the TD to inquire)
New Documents sent: 12.12.2023

In acknowledgment they asked for more documents. No mention of temporary permission, I understand this is a EUTR1A application and it is different.
Sent the new set of documents (parcel weighing around 2 kgs) on 12.12.2023. Now that the Christmas break is approaching. Do I have any option. I see a lot of help around EUTR1 applications but less around EUTR1A and thus I am confused and sad.
Sending lots of documents won't speed the process but key ones.

Yes EUTR1 are based on immediate family members and they have automatic rights as the EU citizen sponsor to be in the state. Unlike the EUTR1A which needs to prove it and they are "considered".

You might receive a response after the Christmas break.

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Re: Eu Treaty files waiting time - EU1 or EU1A

Post by notme » Fri Dec 22, 2023 1:40 pm

Thank you Angel for your comments. these were 2 communications from each months photos, travels, celebration of valentines etc.

So within a month I can get this because my permission is finishing soon and if I dont have the temporary permission I might lose job offer not t mention right to be in country

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Re: Eu Treaty files waiting time - EU1 or EU1A

Post by chrys » Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:38 am

Hi everyone, i finally got an appointment to register my temporary irp in cork (after around 6+ months waiting) and was wondering how long the process is there? is it a quick process or will we be a while there?

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Re: Eu Treaty files waiting time - EU1 or EU1A

Post by chrys » Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:38 am

Hi everyone, i finally got an appointment to register my temporary irp in cork (after around 6+ months waiting) and was wondering how long the process is there? is it a quick process or will we be a while there?

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Re: Eu Treaty files waiting time - EU1 or EU1A

Post by Angel99 » Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:53 am

chrys wrote:
Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:38 am
Hi everyone, i finally got an appointment to register my temporary irp in cork (after around 6+ months waiting) and was wondering how long the process is there? is it a quick process or will we be a while there?
It depends on the queue you will meet there and the immigration guard. It normally takes just about 10mins if you bring the required documents they asked for.

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Re: Eu Treaty files waiting time - EU1 or EU1A

Post by Mace_windu » Wed Jan 10, 2024 2:45 pm

I just received my temporary irp. It says stamp 4, isn't it supposed to say stamp 4eufam?

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Re: Eu Treaty files waiting time - EU1 or EU1A

Post by meself2 » Wed Jan 10, 2024 2:53 pm

Mace_windu wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2024 2:45 pm
I just received my temporary irp. It says stamp 4, isn't it supposed to say stamp 4eufam?
No.

Your EU treaty rights stamp isn't approved yet, so it's just Stamp 4. Once the EUTR application is approved, you should get a 4EUFam.
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Re: Eu Treaty files waiting time - EU1 or EU1A

Post by Mace_windu » Thu Jan 11, 2024 3:14 pm

meself2 wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2024 2:53 pm
Mace_windu wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2024 2:45 pm
I just received my temporary irp. It says stamp 4, isn't it supposed to say stamp 4eufam?
No.

Your EU treaty rights stamp isn't approved yet, so it's just Stamp 4. Once the EUTR application is approved, you should get a 4EUFam.
Thanks, that makes sense

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Re: Eu Treaty files waiting time - EU1 or EU1A

Post by Mace_windu » Sat Jan 13, 2024 3:24 pm

I was asked for a bank statement in my name. Will a revolut account suffice for this or I'll need to try the brick and mortar banks?

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Re: Eu Treaty files waiting time - EU1 or EU1A

Post by Vadrar » Sat Jan 13, 2024 6:59 pm

Mace_windu wrote:
Sat Jan 13, 2024 3:24 pm
I was asked for a bank statement in my name. Will a revolut account suffice for this or I'll need to try the brick and mortar banks?
Any bank regulated by Irish or EU banking authorities should be fine. Google to find out where your bank is regulated. Digital or bricks and mortar doesn’t matter, regulator does. Re Revolut - as long as you opened it in Ireland or EU country it will be fine.

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Re: Eu Treaty files waiting time - EU1 or EU1A

Post by notme » Thu Jan 25, 2024 11:29 am

After 5 months of EUTR1A application and no communication I finally received an update yesterday. It says.. Preliminary examination done if everything seems in order we will issue a temporary stamp... Application with deciding officer... communication in due course.... What is a preliminary examination ? and if that is completed what else is left from POV of getting a temporary stamp.

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Re: Eu Treaty files waiting time - EU1 or EU1A

Post by Angel99 » Thu Jan 25, 2024 12:56 pm

notme wrote:
Thu Jan 25, 2024 11:29 am
After 5 months of EUTR1A application and no communication I finally received an update yesterday. It says.. Preliminary examination done if everything seems in order we will issue a temporary stamp... Application with deciding officer... communication in due course.... What is a preliminary examination ? and if that is completed what else is left from POV of getting a temporary stamp.
They mean they've prepared your application for final examination and forwarded to the person who makes the decision whether to approve your application for next step.

It seem all this while your application is just at step 1 (gathering information)

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Re: Eu Treaty files waiting time - EU1 or EU1A

Post by notme » Thu Jan 25, 2024 1:03 pm

It seem all this while your application is just at step 1 (gathering information)
Didnt understand the last sentence... It seems like it is the first step ? Then what did they mean by preliminary examination completed. Does that mean I should expected an answer in a week or so atleast for the temporary stamp.

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Re: Eu Treaty files waiting time - EU1 or EU1A

Post by Angel99 » Thu Jan 25, 2024 1:15 pm

notme wrote:
Thu Jan 25, 2024 1:03 pm
It seem all this while your application is just at step 1 (gathering information)
Didnt understand the last sentence... It seems like it is the first step ? Then what did they mean by preliminary examination completed. Does that mean I should expected an answer in a week or so atleast for the temporary stamp.
Preliminary examination (pre-examination/to check whether your application meets the requirements).

You are now in step 2.
You might hear from them any moment. Give it up to 4 weeks you will receive your temporary stamp 4.

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Re: Eu Treaty files waiting time - EU1 or EU1A

Post by sanmarino » Thu Feb 01, 2024 5:50 pm

Hello! I am new here. Pls let me know if my question is off-topic.

I applied for a residence permit using an EUTR-1 as a spouse of an EU citizen early December 2023. I just got the first letter from them asking for additional documents (So it took them almost 2 months to reply).

Now, I find it strange that the additional documents that they are asking are:
1) Either the documents that we have already provided with the application like evidence of identity for my husband (a colour copy) or a color copy of our marriage certificate, and so on

-- We did provide all of those already. Why are they again asking for those?

2) Importnantly, they note that our marriage took place in 2019 (so four years ago), but we started dating in 2011. They ask for "documentary evidence of your relationship prior to your marriage... (which) should support key dates in your relationship: how, where, and when you met; details of your engagement; when and where you commenced living together."

-- Now this point is strange. We thought that marriage certificate (issued in the EU) should be enough. Why do they want to see proofs of prior relationship? We started dating in 2011, so that's a lot of time that has passed since. I proposed to collect and send our photographs, past rental contracts, correspondences, etc., as the proof, but my husband insists that the marriage certificate should be enough. He is angry because these requirements are unnecessary and intrusive. Indeed, the official website of the EU says that marriage certificate is enough, while proving durable relationship is only for unmarried couples (https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/r ... dex_en.htm)

He proposed to reply citing the regulation, but I am afraid that fighting back will just extend the time it would take for me to get the final decision.

Has any of you who applied for an EUTR-1 as a married person been asked to prove prior relationship milestones?

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Re: Eu Treaty files waiting time - EU1 or EU1A

Post by Angel99 » Fri Feb 02, 2024 4:58 am

sanmarino wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 5:50 pm
Hello! I am new here. Pls let me know if my question is off-topic.

I applied for a residence permit using an EUTR-1 as a spouse of an EU citizen early December 2023. I just got the first letter from them asking for additional documents (So it took them almost 2 months to reply).

Now, I find it strange that the additional documents that they are asking are:
1) Either the documents that we have already provided with the application like evidence of identity for my husband (a colour copy) or a color copy of our marriage certificate, and so on

-- We did provide all of those already. Why are they again asking for those?

2) Importnantly, they note that our marriage took place in 2019 (so four years ago), but we started dating in 2011. They ask for "documentary evidence of your relationship prior to your marriage... (which) should support key dates in your relationship: how, where, and when you met; details of your engagement; when and where you commenced living together."

-- Now this point is strange. We thought that marriage certificate (issued in the EU) should be enough. Why do they want to see proofs of prior relationship? We started dating in 2011, so that's a lot of time that has passed since. I proposed to collect and send our photographs, past rental contracts, correspondences, etc., as the proof, but my husband insists that the marriage certificate should be enough. He is angry because these requirements are unnecessary and intrusive. Indeed, the official website of the EU says that marriage certificate is enough, while proving durable relationship is only for unmarried couples (https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/r ... dex_en.htm)

He proposed to reply citing the regulation, but I am afraid that fighting back will just extend the time it would take for me to get the final decision.

Has any of you who applied for an EUTR-1 as a married person been asked to prove prior relationship milestones?
Hi,

I am familiar with this type of case.
They ask for this from some nationalities and EU spouse nationality, if you came from another EU country, maybe your dates you wrote on your application is doubting for them or you made a typo error.

All what you have to do is provide them a a clear clour copy of his passport (if I.D front and back)
copy of your EU registered marriage certificate and if you also married in a non EU country then add this also.

Regarding the key dates,
Provide them each year until marriage, 2 evidence of relationship (travel tickets, utility bills if in both names/something in both names with same dates)

1 evidence from beginning of each year and 1 at the end of the year.

You do not need to provide photographs or too much stuffs.

Make sure you point out to them they are not going by the EU regulations for marriage couples and your marriage is also registered in EU.

This requirements are mostly for partners or if they accuse you of marriage of convenience which this can't be the case.

They will not prolong your time if you cite the registrations.


The person who applied received his 9 months temporary stamp 4 within 1 month after sending them what they asked for and citing exactly what you want to try.

His application took just 7 months to receive his final approval.

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Re: Eu Treaty files waiting time - EU1 or EU1A

Post by sanmarino » Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:41 am

Angel99 wrote:
Fri Feb 02, 2024 4:58 am
Hi,

I am familiar with this type of case.
They ask for this from some nationalities and EU spouse nationality, if you came from another EU country, maybe your dates you wrote on your application is doubting for them or you made a typo error.

All what you have to do is provide them a a clear clour copy of his passport (if I.D front and back)
copy of your EU registered marriage certificate and if you also married in a non EU country then add this also.

Regarding the key dates,
Provide them each year until marriage, 2 evidence of relationship (travel tickets, utility bills if in both names/something in both names with same dates)

1 evidence from beginning of each year and 1 at the end of the year.

You do not need to provide photographs or too much stuffs.

Make sure you point out to them they are not going by the EU regulations for marriage couples and your marriage is also registered in EU.

This requirements are mostly for partners or if they accuse you of marriage of convenience which this can't be the case.

They will not prolong your time if you cite the registrations.


The person who applied received his 9 months temporary stamp 4 within 1 month after sending them what they asked for and citing exactly what you want to try.

His application took just 7 months to receive his final approval.
Thank you for the very detailed answer and suggestions. Especially, on how to provide evidence year-by-year.

-- Do you think showing bank statements where we transfer money to each other for common expenses (including separate lines for rent) would be considered evidence enough?

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Re: Eu Treaty files waiting time - EU1 or EU1A

Post by Angel99 » Fri Feb 02, 2024 9:30 am

sanmarino wrote:
Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:41 am
Angel99 wrote:
Fri Feb 02, 2024 4:58 am
Hi,

I am familiar with this type of case.
They ask for this from some nationalities and EU spouse nationality, if you came from another EU country, maybe your dates you wrote on your application is doubting for them or you made a typo error.

All what you have to do is provide them a a clear clour copy of his passport (if I.D front and back)
copy of your EU registered marriage certificate and if you also married in a non EU country then add this also.

Regarding the key dates,
Provide them each year until marriage, 2 evidence of relationship (travel tickets, utility bills if in both names/something in both names with same dates)

1 evidence from beginning of each year and 1 at the end of the year.

You do not need to provide photographs or too much stuffs.

Make sure you point out to them they are not going by the EU regulations for marriage couples and your marriage is also registered in EU.

This requirements are mostly for partners or if they accuse you of marriage of convenience which this can't be the case.

They will not prolong your time if you cite the registrations.


The person who applied received his 9 months temporary stamp 4 within 1 month after sending them what they asked for and citing exactly what you want to try.

His application took just 7 months to receive his final approval.
Thank you for the very detailed answer and suggestions. Especially, on how to provide evidence year-by-year.

-- Do you think showing bank statements where we transfer money to each other for common expenses (including separate lines for rent) would be considered evidence enough?
Yes you can add this nd maybe 2 more other proof of relationship. Just make sure it's a full bank statement. Don't try to hide other transactions.

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Re: Eu Treaty files waiting time - EU1 or EU1A

Post by notme » Fri Feb 09, 2024 12:21 pm

I applied for a EUTR1A application and I am in my 6th month. Has anyone recently received approval letter (or even rejection) for their EUTR1A application. As the last one on this thread I see is around march last year. After that I dont see any EUTR1A application.

I got an acknowledgement only after I wrote to my Local TD and they got a reply first and then me. After many emails I got a reply saying "your application is with deciding Officer" I understand EUTR1A doesnot automatically qualify for temporary permission but I am anxious as there is no way to communicate with the team also. Should I write to local TD again ?

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Re: Eu Treaty files waiting time - EU1 or EU1A

Post by Angel99 » Fri Feb 09, 2024 1:41 pm

notme wrote:
Fri Feb 09, 2024 12:21 pm
I applied for a EUTR1A application and I am in my 6th month. Has anyone recently received approval letter (or even rejection) for their EUTR1A application. As the last one on this thread I see is around march last year. After that I dont see any EUTR1A application.

I got an acknowledgement only after I wrote to my Local TD and they got a reply first and then me. After many emails I got a reply saying "your application is with deciding Officer" I understand EUTR1A doesnot automatically qualify for temporary permission but I am anxious as there is no way to communicate with the team also. Should I write to local TD again ?
Hi,

At this point leave it as it is and give it a couple of months.
As i told you before with partner route depending on your case they can choose not to give you any temporary stamp up to 6 months with excuse they want time to check if your relationship is real or it's questionable. After 6 months you have right to ask for it.

Fortunately your case is already with deciding officer.
You should expect your decision letter in few weeks so be patient.

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Re: Eu Treaty files waiting time - EU1 or EU1A

Post by ClaudiaSeq01 » Sat Feb 17, 2024 8:39 pm

Good evening, my name is Claudia married to a Brazilian, to the eutr1 form, we added a photo of the couple, marriage certificate, joint address in Ireland joint health insurance in Ireland and an apartment where we live but it is only in my name as it was before of marriage, in this case I am waiting for the answer, what is the probability of this being denied given that we have no more evidence? and if I receive a letter from immigration what should I do next? Do you know how long it takes?.. I'm desperate because if it takes too long it will cause considerable financial losses as with just a salary it will be impossible and if so I may even have to return to Portugal.

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Re: Eu Treaty files waiting time - EU1 or EU1A

Post by meself2 » Sat Feb 17, 2024 8:43 pm

ClaudiaSeq01 wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2024 8:39 pm
Good evening, my name is Claudia married to a Brazilian, to the eutr1 form, we add a photo of the couple, marriage certificate, joint address in Ireland joint health insurance in Ireland and an apartment where we live but it is only in my name, in this case I am waiting for the answer, how likely is it to be denied given that we have no further evidence? and if I receive a letter from immigration what should I do next? Do you know how long it takes?.. I'm desperate because if it takes too long it will cause considerable financial losses as with just a salary it will be impossible and if so I may even have to return to Portugal.
And what do you do in Ireland? Do you work?
Did you add evidence of your work?

EU citizen should exercise their Treaty rights (eg work/study/be self sufficient) for application to work out.
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Re: Eu Treaty files waiting time - EU1 or EU1A

Post by ClaudiaSeq01 » Sat Feb 17, 2024 10:42 pm

In this case, I work and sent my employment contract, respective salaries, but the Eutr1 application is for my Brazilian husband.

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