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EU1 5-Year Response, Anyone?

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Re: EU1 5-Year Response, Anyone?

Post by adedayoh » Mon Oct 19, 2015 7:59 pm

Hey alpha,
They will get back to you before the 19th of Nov. my husbands response came 2 weeks late but was still before the deadline.

They contacted my employer and issued my husbands letter on the same day. Don't worry

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Re: EU1 5-Year Response, Anyone?

Post by james101958 » Tue Oct 20, 2015 6:14 pm

hi any one help me. actually my temp stamp 4 expire 23/10/2015 but no call to employer where my wife working. this happen before with anyone

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Re: EU1 5-Year Response, Anyone?

Post by legalaid » Tue Oct 20, 2015 9:24 pm

nahmad

what further steps would you take now?

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Re: EU1 5-Year Response, Anyone?

Post by nahmed » Wed Oct 21, 2015 9:15 am

Hi,

I am in process of sending the review out this week.

For people who are waiting for their 5-year responses, it does come before the 7 months stamp 4 expires as "Adedayoh mentioned.

My response timeline was as follows:

10/03/2015, EU1 application reached INIS.
Application response deadline 09/09/2015
Temp given for 7 months expiring 09/10/2015.
29/09/2015, employer contact.
Response letter issued dated 02/10/2015.
Reached us on 08/10/2015 (few extra days delays possible due to AN Post strike). The letter is stamped the 06/10/2015 so may be they took couple of working days from response issued to the actaual posting.

So, we did receive the reply within the time frame, although on the last day.

Good luck guys

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Re: EU1 5-Year Response, Anyone?

Post by nahmed » Wed Oct 21, 2015 11:26 am

@Obie,
A quick question in relation to my brother's EU1 application and our initial travel into Ireland. Can our review application be legally refused merely on the point that he didn't take a family permit before entering Ireland, i.e, hence he entered illegally so they refuse his application?

My understanding was that legal residence requirements had been lifted following the Metock Judgement and as transposed into Irish Legislation by way of SI 310 of 2008. Does it not apply to him being an EFM?

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Re: EU1 5-Year Response, Anyone?

Post by Obie » Wed Oct 21, 2015 11:35 am

Was that the basis of Refusal?

Your case seems complicating. Ireland and the Netherlands are the 2 countries that dont give EFM much difficulties.

Shocked how yours was refused.

If that it does not seem lawful, although metock was a Qualifying Family case, the rationale may apply to EFM.

Try and get the review done well , or the next stage will be the high court, which is more daunting.
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Re: EU1 5-Year Response, Anyone?

Post by nahmed » Wed Oct 21, 2015 12:43 pm

Thanks Obie,

No, they haven't mentioned anything about legal/illegal entry as yet. The reason I asked is that they refused another member's review in a very similar case quoting that he was illegal in UK before entering IE via NI and that he entered IE illegally so we don't accept your dependency. My brother's entry and stay in UK was all legal or in appeals up to the point we entered IE, although without the FP.

Yes, I am trying my best to prepare all the paperwork. Have also hired services of an Immigration consultant (solicitor), although, in Ireland in my experience, as compared to UK, I don't find them of very much help other than handling the posts.

Nevertheless, I have incorporated your very helpful advice of explaining the whole position of dependency as they would not dissect it for us, the detailed reasons for it and that it was material and essential with folders full of genuine evidence.

Regarding household membership, again, followed your very helpful advice. Have started by proving the 2 addresses we stayed since 2010 were my households, with documentary evidence including property ownership documentation, home insurance, voters registration, tenancy agreements in my name, bank Stats & tons of other docs.

And then moved on to detailed explanation with proof that my brother was indeed part of my above households and have included tons of evidence from various different sources for it.

Honestly speaking Obie, I didn't think of our case being that complicated with him being genuinely dependent and also us living together for 5 years with all the paperwork covering the whole period. Its all there in the paperwork & I did think that he is genuine beneficiary of the directive only if I start exercising treaty rights in another state. However, they refused it as you know. The worst thing is that they don't even tell us what's missing or lacking. Aren't they supposed to justify the reasons for refusal? Simply says:

"You have failed to submit satisfactory evidence of dependence on the EU citizen including prior to residing in the State as requested in our letter of 11/03/2015. You have failed to submit satisfactory evidence that you are a family member of an EU citizen in accordance with Regulation 2(1) of the Regulations."

We did reply to that letter they are referring to and they even acknowledged receipt. Don't even know if this is a simple oversight from the case worker or do they actually think that the evidence submitted are not sufficient and hence they refused.

Have tried to cover both the oversight initially and then moved on with full-blown detailed review.

What can you make of the refusal @Obie? Any further help/pointers would be really appreciated.

Thanks in advance!

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Re: EU1 5-Year Response, Anyone?

Post by james101958 » Thu Oct 22, 2015 5:26 am

any one please help me. my temp stamp 4 going to expire tomorrow 23/10/2015 tell me what i do now. not contact to employer yet give me any advise please

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Re: EU1 5-Year Response, Anyone?

Post by Dublinhope » Sun Oct 25, 2015 6:59 pm

james101958 wrote:any one please help me. my temp stamp 4 going to expire tomorrow 23/10/2015 tell me what i do now. not contact to employer yet give me any advise please
just go tp GARDA to extend another 6months

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Re: EU1 5-Year Response, Anyone?

Post by james101958 » Sun Oct 25, 2015 7:51 pm

Thanks dublinhope for ur reply.
U have any idea anyone have done this before without immigration lette.please share ur experience.

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Re: EU1 5-Year Response, Anyone?

Post by Obie » Mon Oct 26, 2015 12:52 pm

james101958 wrote:Thanks dublinhope for ur reply.
U have any idea anyone have done this before without immigration lette.please share ur experience.
I explained to you on the other thread that renewal is different from first issue, and if your partners stamp 4 elapses before a decision is reached your can see further extension from the local Garda.

It is not appropriate for Name's thread to be hijacked in this way, when topic as so different .
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Re: EU1 5-Year Response, Anyone?

Post by legalaid » Mon Oct 26, 2015 6:15 pm

Hi moderators

Could you please tell me why I can't check pm
Thanks

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Re: EU1 5-Year Response, Anyone?

Post by kunfayakun » Tue Oct 27, 2015 2:11 am

legalaid wrote:Hi moderators

Could you please tell me why I can't check pm
Thanks
I think it's because you are newly registered to this forum :(
Stay blessed
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Re: EU1 5-Year Response, Anyone?

Post by alphagear » Sat Nov 07, 2015 12:17 pm

No response yet.

Due date was 19th october and stamp expiring 19th nov.

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Re: EU1 5-Year Response, Anyone?

Post by james101958 » Sat Nov 07, 2015 7:23 pm

Thank God I received 5 year permission letter yesterday thanks for everyone who help me in this board.

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Re: EU1 5-Year Response, Anyone?

Post by Obie » Sat Nov 07, 2015 7:29 pm

How long did it take before a decision.
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Re: EU1 5-Year Response, Anyone?

Post by james101958 » Sun Nov 08, 2015 2:50 am

My temporary stamp4 expired on 23 of October but my decision arrived on 5th November.

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Re: EU1 5-Year Response, Anyone?

Post by kunfayakun » Sun Nov 08, 2015 2:58 am

james101958 wrote:Thank God I received 5 year permission letter yesterday thanks for everyone who help me in this board.
Congratulations James :) so what is your plan? moving to UK or settling here?
Stay blessed
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Re: EU1 5-Year Response, Anyone?

Post by james101958 » Sun Nov 08, 2015 4:46 am

Thanks Kunfayakun if I change my visa into uk visa then my eufam4 will be cancelled or still valid and after that if I want after some time I can come here or not please

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Re: EU1 5-Year Response, Anyone?

Post by sanfon » Thu Nov 12, 2015 2:07 am

@ james

was your case of marriage or extended family member dependency

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Re: EU1 5-Year Response, Anyone?

Post by kunfayakun » Thu Nov 12, 2015 10:15 pm

Hello James,

No hopefully it won't be cancelled and You can just travel to the UK with your spouse using your EUFAM 5 years card and from there you can apply for the EEA2 with the same documents you used to obtained the EU1.
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Re: EU1 5-Year Response, Anyone?

Post by james101958 » Thu Nov 12, 2015 11:35 pm

Sanfon I have marriage case and my spouse is also British and my marriage is registered in uk

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Re: EU1 5-Year Response, Anyone?

Post by james101958 » Thu Nov 12, 2015 11:36 pm

Thanks kunfayakun lets see what happen

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Re: EU1 5-Year Response, Anyone?

Post by ferry007 » Wed Nov 18, 2015 12:29 pm

hello,

anyone received EU1 5-Year response..............any idea

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Re: EU1 5-Year Response, Anyone?

Post by n11000 » Sat Nov 21, 2015 10:27 pm

hello,
i have a query about my friend who received his temperary eufam stamp4 residence letter to go to local garda station to register, but when he went to local garda station after three weeks with spouse, the garda officer said that they have not received his letter from INIS etc so we will ring you when we receive your letter.
i want to know Does INIS send any letter to garda station about the eu fam temporary stamp for 6 months, and if they send then how many weeks do they take to send letter to Garda station?
thanks

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