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Re: Foreign Birth Registration?

Post by Sulla » Sat Mar 09, 2019 11:18 pm

Micheal

I do not have that information. It was never supplied to me. I simply know the application date at the embassy (Aug 14th) and that on or before November 29th it was put forward for final approval. On or before January 10th, I was added to the FBR. That's all I have. I would assume that my application got to Dublin 1-2 weeks after initial submission. I can request more info if you want.

If you are looking at this from the angle of comparing the progress of our two applications (made at almost the same time) with the view to making a complaint, then I am right behind you and willing to supply the full application number by PM. Although I am far from happy with the speed of my own application process, your one has been far worse. The FBR section should have to justify the gulf between our processing times. How can it be that my physical certificate is due this week and you are being told potentially June - August?

To be honest, I do not think the date of arrival in Dublin is relevant to applications submitted to overseas missions. Some people are told to post directly to Dublin, others are instructed to send to their local Irish embassy or consulate. The date that the application reaches the place that was designated on the FBR form must count as the date of application.

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration?

Post by Michael123 » Sun Mar 10, 2019 2:10 am

Thanks for updating me. Its not necessary to ask for further, I had assumed that you would have had the “Dublin date” at your fingertips. Basically it would seem that myself, My cousin, Liam and Laurie (if that name is correct) just missed this current batch and hopefully will be included in the batch that (from what I have read) is expected at the end of March.

But its anyones guess.

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration?

Post by theonlyh » Sun Mar 10, 2019 7:20 pm

spiderplants wrote:
Sat Mar 09, 2019 4:27 pm
theonlyh wrote:
Sat Mar 09, 2019 4:19 pm
Hi,

Does anyone know how the FBR certificates and original documents are returned to people living in the UK?

I have missed a parcel from Royal Mail today and wondering if it could be them!
Aargh, we're going to have to wait until Monday now to find out. Out of curiosity, when did you apply?

I applied in October 2018 and application received in London on 8 October. Application was sent to Dublin on 6 Secember 2018 for processing. I’ve not chased it since then just trying to think positive 😊

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration?

Post by Michael123 » Sun Mar 10, 2019 7:54 pm

theonlyh wrote:
Sun Mar 10, 2019 7:20 pm
spiderplants wrote:
Sat Mar 09, 2019 4:27 pm
theonlyh wrote:
Sat Mar 09, 2019 4:19 pm
Hi,

Does anyone know how the FBR certificates and original documents are returned to people living in the UK?

I have missed a parcel from Royal Mail today and wondering if it could be them!
Aargh, we're going to have to wait until Monday now to find out. Out of curiosity, when did you apply?

I applied in October 2018 and application received in London on 8 October. Application was sent to Dublin on 6 Secember 2018 for processing. I’ve not chased it since then just trying to think positive 😊
How did it get sent to Dublin in Sept when you applied in Oct?

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration?

Post by theonlyh » Sun Mar 10, 2019 8:00 pm

Michael123 wrote:
Sun Mar 10, 2019 7:54 pm
theonlyh wrote:
Sun Mar 10, 2019 7:20 pm
spiderplants wrote:
Sat Mar 09, 2019 4:27 pm
theonlyh wrote:
Sat Mar 09, 2019 4:19 pm
Hi,

Does anyone know how the FBR certificates and original documents are returned to people living in the UK?

I have missed a parcel from Royal Mail today and wondering if it could be them!
Aargh, we're going to have to wait until Monday now to find out. Out of curiosity, when did you apply?

I applied in October 2018 and application received in London on 8 October. Application was sent to Dublin on 6 Secember 2018 for processing. I’ve not chased it since then just trying to think positive 😊
How did it get sent to Dublin in Sept when you applied in Oct?
Sorry December 2018 it went to Dublin*

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration?

Post by Michael123 » Sun Mar 10, 2019 8:06 pm

Ok. Thanks. Mine was delivered to Dubin on 8/21... when asked, they said its not been looked at and expect to wait until aug-sept (12-13 months)

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration?

Post by spiderplants » Sun Mar 10, 2019 8:48 pm

theonlyh wrote:
Sun Mar 10, 2019 7:20 pm
I applied in October 2018 and application received in London on 8 October. Application was sent to Dublin on 6 Secember 2018 for processing. I’ve not chased it since then just trying to think positive 😊
How did you find out when it went to Dublin? I applied September, had its receipt acknowledged a few days later in London and then have not heard any more.

I did get through to the webchat week before last (luckily!) and was just told times are now 9-12 months from date received. I did ask if that was in London or Dublin and was told Dublin. So, will be interesting to see what your delivery is :)

I also asked about and was told that everyone will get an email.

But, I'm still not sure if this is all just the script the webchatters were using. I got no details about my own application other than he confirmed it had been received.

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration?

Post by theonlyh » Sun Mar 10, 2019 8:53 pm

spiderplants wrote:
Sun Mar 10, 2019 8:48 pm
theonlyh wrote:
Sun Mar 10, 2019 7:20 pm
I applied in October 2018 and application received in London on 8 October. Application was sent to Dublin on 6 Secember 2018 for processing. I’ve not chased it since then just trying to think positive 😊
How did you find out when it went to Dublin? I applied September, had its receipt acknowledged a few days later in London and then have not heard any more.

I did get through to the webchat week before last (luckily!) and was just told times are now 9-12 months from date received. I did ask if that was in London or Dublin and was told Dublin. So, will be interesting to see what your delivery is :)

I also asked about and was told that everyone will get an email.

But, I'm still not sure if this is all just the script the webchatters were using. I got no details about my own application other than he confirmed it had been received.

I rang the embassy in London one day and just managed to get through to a helpful person who gave me an update! What do you mean when they say everyone will get an email? I’m expecting nothing else to be delivered so I’m very hopeful but will probably be disappointed when I go to collect at 7am tomorrow!

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration?

Post by Michael123 » Sun Mar 10, 2019 8:53 pm

The way this is all working out, Im expecting a hand drawn crayon FBR certificate printed on the inside of a cereal box cover. Haha ya just have to laugh sometimes

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration?

Post by Michael123 » Sun Mar 10, 2019 8:55 pm

theonlyh wrote:
Sun Mar 10, 2019 8:53 pm
spiderplants wrote:
Sun Mar 10, 2019 8:48 pm
theonlyh wrote:
Sun Mar 10, 2019 7:20 pm
I applied in October 2018 and application received in London on 8 October. Application was sent to Dublin on 6 Secember 2018 for processing. I’ve not chased it since then just trying to think positive 😊
How did you find out when it went to Dublin? I applied September, had its receipt acknowledged a few days later in London and then have not heard any more.

I did get through to the webchat week before last (luckily!) and was just told times are now 9-12 months from date received. I did ask if that was in London or Dublin and was told Dublin. So, will be interesting to see what your delivery is :)

I also asked about and was told that everyone will get an email.

But, I'm still not sure if this is all just the script the webchatters were using. I got no details about my own application other than he confirmed it had been received.

I rang the embassy in London one day and just managed to get through to a helpful person who gave me an update! What do you mean when they say everyone will get an email? I’m expecting nothing else to be delivered so I’m very hopeful but will probably be disappointed when I go to collect at 7am tomorrow!
You will be disappointed if you are expecting your FBR cert when you had only applied in December.. sorry. It probably just a letter from your mother-in-law informing you that she is coming to live with you. Hahaha
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Re: Foreign Birth Registration?

Post by spiderplants » Sun Mar 10, 2019 8:58 pm

Just that, everyone is now supposed to get an email before the certificate. Some here have reported getting one, others not. But, as a previous poster suggested the process has changed so that everyone gets one, I thought I'd ask. And he said that's the case. We'll see.

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration?

Post by Michael123 » Sun Mar 10, 2019 9:20 pm

spiderplants wrote:
Sun Mar 10, 2019 8:58 pm
Just that, everyone is now supposed to get an email before the certificate. Some here have reported getting one, others not. But, as a previous poster suggested the process has changed so that everyone gets one, I thought I'd ask. And he said that's the case. We'll see.

They also said that I would be added to the FBR and should expect an Email in December or January at the latest.

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration?

Post by Court2 » Sun Mar 10, 2019 9:30 pm

I’d be surprised also if this is your FBR certificate. I have almost identical timeline to you via London and the email in December saying it had reached Dublin but nothing since.

Then again, I’m sure these people in Dublin do a pick n mix/lottery of which application they approve next and send out so it may well be your FBR certificate despite me and others here having the same/earlier timelines and still waiting!

None of this process makes sense or is consistent whatsoever. I note the DFA have finally got round to updating their website to say webchat is no longer and option. Still says applications take 6 months though, despite them telling anyone here that contacts them that it could be up to 12!

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration?

Post by Michael123 » Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:12 pm

this is what the DFA has posted about the FBR


Registering a foreign birth

At present it takes approximately 6 months to process a completed Foreign Birth Registration application. However, due to the complex nature of the Foreign Birth Registration, it may take up to 12 months to process an application. If you are an expectant parent applying to be entered on the Foreign Birth Register, you should mark this clearly on your application.

Your birth can be entered on the Foreign Births Register if you are eligible to become an Irish citizen. Find out what you need to do before you begin your online application.

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration?

Post by Court2 » Mon Mar 11, 2019 7:11 am

To be fair, the website says applications take 6 months but ‘can take up to 12 months’ due to the ‘complex nature’ of some cases.

So effectively the DFA are saying that all the cases have suddenly become ‘complex’ hence why we are all waiting beyond 6 months?

Poor/no existing communication is the worst part of this process. Hope it does improve in future

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration?

Post by theonlyh » Mon Mar 11, 2019 7:50 am

I've been to the post office....it wasn't the certificate! Back to waiting..... I see so many mixed timelines with these registrations, who knows when I will actually get an email or something in the post!

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration?

Post by Sulla » Mon Mar 11, 2019 8:30 am

It has taken them a full 2 months now just for printing of my physical FBR certificate. Essentially, it just amounts to an A4 piece of paper with a stamped official seal.

Looking back at other people's posted timescales, I got through the approval stage reasonably quickly (4 months 27 days) but I have not seen anyone else post wait times of 2 months between FBR entry and receipt of the actual certificate.

Certainly, it is hard to argue that efficiency has experienced any increase in this respect.

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration?

Post by theonlyh » Mon Mar 11, 2019 9:17 am

9 April will be my 6 month deadline so 29 days to go. Don't think i will hold my breath!

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration?

Post by nic123 » Mon Mar 11, 2019 9:23 am

Michael123 wrote:
Sun Mar 10, 2019 8:55 pm


You will be disappointed if you are expecting your FBR cert when you had only applied in December.. sorry. It probably just a letter from your mother-in-law informing you that she is coming to live with you. Hahaha

Michael - Glad to see you having a laugh & not cancelling your application. Hang in there...can't be much longer!
If they are approving a batch at the end of March like I was told it will be 9 months for me. I could've had a baby in that time and jumped the queue!! LOL

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration?

Post by Sulla » Mon Mar 11, 2019 9:57 am

nic123 wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2019 9:23 am
Michael - Glad to see you having a laugh & not cancelling your application. Hang in there...can't be much longer!
Alas, If this experience has taught us anything, it is that is can be much longer. I remember telling Michael when I was added to the register that he would be done in a few weeks. I was very wrong on that.

Nowadays, I think the best strategy is just to assume there will be hefty delays. That way the disappointment seems less acute.

Canceling the application makes no sense. As Churchill said "if you're going through hell, keep going"

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