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Re: Foreign Birth Registration?

Post by Sulla » Tue Mar 12, 2019 11:59 pm

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Small variations and inconsistencies between certificates will not have an adverse influence. The DFA look at the overall evidence supplied by all the documents as a body. If one document uses "Mac" and another "Mc" or even if there are differences in middle names, it will not matter. I should qualify this by saying that as long as there is general consistency throughout the document set, a few outliers won't disrupt matters. If there are a multitude of incongruous names and dates, then things are likely to be more troublesome.

I asked about this at the embassy when I submitted the application. I also had the Mc / Mac issue as well as a middle name which appeared for my father on his marriage /divorce certificates as well as his current ID, but not on his birth certificate. I was told it won't be an issue at all. It wasn't.

Zippy / James_mcfc

Warm congratulations on the receipt of your passports. It is good to see some people posting positive news around here for a change. We have not had much of that lately.

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration?

Post by Michael123 » Wed Mar 13, 2019 4:01 am

My Grandmothers marriage certificate lists both her mother and father as John

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration?

Post by DanaMarie » Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:36 am

Michael123 wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 4:01 am
My Grandmothers marriage certificate lists both her mother and father as John
All of this is making me feel better! My father's birth certificate lists his (at the time)11 year old brother as his father. My father and my grandfather and my grandmother and great grandmother each had the same name as the other. I guess we'll see what happens when they finally get around to reviewing my docs!

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration?

Post by Sulla » Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:04 am

If anyone has more numerous or serious conflicts of details within their documentation for FBR, then there are a couple of things that could be done prior to submission to potentially avoid delays.

1) Contact the issuing records office about correcting the information in an entry they have. It will be necessary to supply them with other certificates or evidence showing an error or omission. If the evidence is sufficient, a correction will be made and you can order the corrected certificate and use that for your FBR application.

2)Prepare a sworn affidavit (statutory declaration) describing and explaining inconsistent elements in the records you have supplied. To be valid, this should be signed in the presence of a commissioner of oaths / notary public and certified by them. Please note, the DFA do not accept such affidavits as an alternative to missing documents - I was told that very clearly by both the agent I hired and the embassy staff. They should only be used to explain issues within documents supplied or other matters pertinent to your application. This affidavit should be included with your paper FBR application when you submit.

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration?

Post by tom_bcfc » Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:35 pm

It's no wonder theres lengthy delays if on the applications print on section E it clearly states medical doctors can witness an application yet 8 months down the line people are told they can no longer witness, and are told to resubmit evidence. You would think they would change the forms to avoid this. Save everyone a lot of time, and money.

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration?

Post by tom_bcfc » Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:44 pm

Mori68 wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 2:25 pm
First time post

Submitted application to London embassy on November 4th. Delivery via Royal Mail confirmed 4th November.

Received this email from DFAT today:

“Your application and supporting documentation for your application for Foreign Birth Registration has now been received. Applications can take up to 6 months to process and we will be in touch with you should we require any additional documentation or clarifications.”

Does that mean six months from now, or November??
I recieved that email yesterday but I only sent off my form to ballbriggan last week. So I'd imagine the London embassy has only just sent your application to Dublin this week and it's been in a cupboard gathering dust somewhere until the ballbriggan office opened. 6 to 12 months from now I'm expecting

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration?

Post by brawn401 » Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:24 pm

So today is a good day.

Received email confirmation that I am now an Irish Citizen.

My timelines are as follows:
Application sent: 30 Jun 2018
Acknowledgement of receipt at London Embassy: 2nd July 2018
Sent for approval: 9th December 2018
Email confirmation of Irish citizenship: 13th March 2019

So that is 257 days in total, just over 8 months.

Let’s hope this means the backlog is also clearing for all of you who have applied so far. Good luck to all.

They advised in the email that the certificate delivery would take 2-3 weeks

🇨🇮!

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration?

Post by Jaxx22 » Wed Mar 13, 2019 3:32 pm

tom_bcfc wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:35 pm
It's no wonder theres lengthy delays if on the applications print on section E it clearly states medical doctors can witness an application yet 8 months down the line people are told they can no longer witness, and are told to resubmit evidence. You would think they would change the forms to avoid this. Save everyone a lot of time, and money.
Agreed, there are far too many discrepancies for the application with the website saying one thing, the form another. I think too that they have made this part of it very difficult and limited, how many people know someone of those professions or even someone who knows someone in those professions. I realise this is to try and deter people from applying.

I went with the list that was on the embassy website as that was who I had to send my application through anyway which stated difference requirements anyway.

I have now received a notification from the post office that my documents were collected by the embassy, that took a month but a different company altogether but I assume that my application is just sitting on a desk at the embassy waiting to be sent as I have heard nothing else.

The timescale for me as I have said before as I need to move to a larger property and getting everything sent to the correct address, with what I am reading about how things are dealt with I do lack a bit of confidence in a new address being noted and everything being sent correctly but that said I don't want to delay things and let the perfect place go because of waiting for the application to be dealt with.

Congratulations to those who have received their passports. Hopefully those who have recently been added to the FBR will get their certificates soon.

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration?

Post by zippy12 » Wed Mar 13, 2019 3:34 pm

james_mcfc wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 10:41 pm
So that’ll be all from me, good luck to everyone waiting!
Congratulations and Happy St. Patrick's Day!
Zippy

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration?

Post by zippy12 » Wed Mar 13, 2019 3:37 pm

danmur wrote:
Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:36 pm

Dispatched today 👍🏻👍🏻 Hopefully get it before Friday!!
Congratulations! and Happy St. Patrick's Day!
Zippy signing out!

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration?

Post by Court2 » Wed Mar 13, 2019 5:00 pm

brawn401 wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:24 pm
So today is a good day.

Received email confirmation that I am now an Irish Citizen.

My timelines are as follows:
Application sent: 30 Jun 2018
Acknowledgement of receipt at London Embassy: 2nd July 2018
Sent for approval: 9th December 2018
Email confirmation of Irish citizenship: 13th March 2019

So that is 257 days in total, just over 8 months.

Let’s hope this means the backlog is also clearing for all of you who have applied so far. Good luck to all.

They advised in the email that the certificate delivery would take 2-3 weeks

🇨🇮!
Did you receive an email to state your application had been 'sent for approval'?

I received an email several days before you (early December 2018) saying my application was at an 'advanced stage'. Still waiting. :cry:

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration?

Post by nic123 » Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:36 pm

brawn401 wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:24 pm
So today is a good day.

Received email confirmation that I am now an Irish Citizen.


CONGRATULATIONS!!!

Nice to hear the system is working now. Hopefully not too long for me (25th June 2018).

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration?

Post by Sulla » Thu Mar 14, 2019 12:08 am

Tom_bcfc

Has there actually been a case that you are aware of in which someone submitted an FBR application witnessed by a medical doctor and it was subsequently refused due to this policy change? I don't recall reading of that on this board. I do remember some discussion of if it would be accepted as the old form and updated website said different things. However, I don't think there has been a refusal to acknowledge the validity of a witness from a profession stated on the old application form made prior to the policy change, but before physical submission.

Brawn

Congratulations of making it through this long process. I'm at 9 weeks after being added to the FBR now. I also know (from the embassy) that the certificate has been printed some time ago. Still waiting on receipt. I hope yours makes it to you more swiftly.

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration?

Post by nic123 » Thu Mar 14, 2019 6:41 am

tom_bcfc

I hope not! nearly 9 months for me & my doctor witnessed mine. I was told in January that all my documents were in order. That would be unfair after all this time.

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration?

Post by theonlyh » Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:49 am

Court2 wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 5:00 pm
brawn401 wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:24 pm
So today is a good day.

Received email confirmation that I am now an Irish Citizen.

My timelines are as follows:
Application sent: 30 Jun 2018
Acknowledgement of receipt at London Embassy: 2nd July 2018
Sent for approval: 9th December 2018
Email confirmation of Irish citizenship: 13th March 2019

So that is 257 days in total, just over 8 months.

Let’s hope this means the backlog is also clearing for all of you who have applied so far. Good luck to all.

They advised in the email that the certificate delivery would take 2-3 weeks

🇨🇮!
Did you receive an email to state your application had been 'sent for approval'?

I received an email several days before you (early December 2018) saying my application was at an 'advanced stage'. Still waiting. :cry:

Mine was sent for approval on 6th December 2018 and I haven't had the email yet boooooo

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration?

Post by Larran2019 » Thu Mar 14, 2019 1:56 pm

tom_bcfc wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:44 pm
Mori68 wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 2:25 pm
First time post

Submitted application to London embassy on November 4th. Delivery via Royal Mail confirmed 4th November.

Received this email from DFAT today:

“Your application and supporting documentation for your application for Foreign Birth Registration has now been received. Applications can take up to 6 months to process and we will be in touch with you should we require any additional documentation or clarifications.”

Does that mean six months from now, or November??
I recieved that email yesterday but I only sent off my form to ballbriggan last week. So I'd imagine the London embassy has only just sent your application to Dublin this week and it's been in a cupboard gathering dust somewhere until the ballbriggan office opened. 6 to 12 months from now I'm expecting
I'm the same - I sent mine to London in December when they were still accepting them and then received an email from Dublin mid-February when it was presumably opened. I used the chat to chase them early February and was told any applications received from August-December hadn't been opened due to the move over to Dublin. Presumably the six months starts from the confirmation email as if they hadn't been opened they wouldn't have any idea they'd even received them... sigh :|

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration?

Post by spiderplants » Thu Mar 14, 2019 2:19 pm

spiderplants wrote:
Wed Feb 27, 2019 4:48 pm

From a weeks ago when I used the webchat and specifically asked about these things.

...was told the timeline for FBR is now 9 to 12 months but this is from date of original receipt in embassy not when received in Dublin. And you should get an email if you're approved.

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration?

Post by Michael123 » Thu Mar 14, 2019 5:00 pm

I am one week shy of 7 months (Aug 21,2018) since my application was recieved in Dublin (Direct to Dublin from USA, No embassy envolvement) no Email yet. Another user has not recieved his FBR certificate after being added to the FBR over 2 months ago. So even after being added to the FBR, it will be another 2+ month wait to even begin the passport process.

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration?

Post by brawn401 » Thu Mar 14, 2019 5:06 pm

Sulla

Thanks for the congratulations! One can only hope that now they have the new FBR templates sorted, yours will be printed and winging its way to you soon.

Nic123

Thanks! And hold in there. Fingers crossed it’s not too long for you now!

Court2

No I didn’t get any email informing me that the application was sent for approval in December. I called the DFA a month or so ago and asked them if there was any update, and they informed me on the phone that it had been sent for approval

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration?

Post by Sulla » Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:38 pm

Michael

It could be 2+ months between being added to the register and actual delivery. However, that does not necessarily mean it will be. I am sure we can all acknowledge that there is a certain degree of randomness inherent in this process. Based on previous experiences (Sean / Spav) I had anticipated 2-4 weeks. Brawn was told within 3 weeks. You might just get lucky.

While our situation is undesirable and definitely a source of angst, I can only imagine the stress that people in the UK who actually need an EU passport for their career are going through.

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