Foreign Birth Registration?

9 months on Monday but patiently waiting for that email. Went for approval November 2018.

7 Months Today. Also waiting for that E-Mail!

Court

I could not agree more. The salary of a person is not a relevant piece of information. They elected to do that job and should perform it to a reasonable standard. Your customer service remarks are also spot on. A series of emails to applicants would have dialed things down considerably and cut their communications burden substantially.

The embassy did not say in their E-mail if the certificate had arrived. They merely asked for advice on the time I would be available to take receipt.

The other two communications from the DFA were both also via E-Mail. I would love to share more information with you regarding their response to the complaint about the impact of incomplete applications. However, no part of her response even touched on that issue. It was, in essence, the entire body of complaint. Instead of answering that, she opted to talk about why FBR could be delayed in general terms. Most of these stock phrases I already posted. When I hear more from the FOI request - due April 4th - I will let you know.

BerxitEscapee

I am truly sorry that your remarks were censored. I am against all forms of restrictions on freedom of expression. I would, however, respectfully request that you don't misrepresent me. I have not said that I seek Irish citizenship for tax reasons. It would be ridiculous to do so. Citizenships don't bestow tax advantages. That is determined by tax residence and domicile. The only people who might consider a citizenship as part of a tax reduction strategy would be U.S. citizens who aimed to renounce. I am not in that category. I have acquired Irish citizenship in order to remain an EU citizen. It brings me no benefits (even for travel) over what I already have with my British and St. Kitts passports.

Richard

Yes, at last it appears things are well and truly coming to a conclusion for us. Probably for Brawn as well. I assume since my printing took place 2 days before yours, that I was correct to assume that I have been on the FBR since sometime in December and thus the wait time has been in excess of three months, rather than two. We will know for sure when it finally arrives.

jpauls wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 22, 2019 11:41 am

Sean, any update on your passport? My estimated date was 15/3 and as of today it's printing, so only a few days later than they claimed. Hopefully yours isn't far behind!

As of today (22/3), the passport tracker still says that my application is being processed. Last Wednesday (20/3) was the estimated date for it to be issued. Hopefully, this means that my passport will be issued next week if you just got yours issued. I think that I read somewhere that it takes up to 10 business days for the passport to arrive back at the consulate after being issued in Dublin. I would assume that they send it on via courier after that point.

Sulla wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 22, 2019 11:22 pm

BerxitEscapeeI am truly sorry that your remarks were censored. I am against all forms of restrictions on freedom of expression. I would, however, respectfully request that you don't misrepresent me.

I bent over backwards not to identify you in my last post as you had every right to report the undiplomatic language I'd used in earlier posts. However, now you've chosen to identify yourself as the tax exile who's apoplectic with rage about an underfunded Irish government department, it's fair to ask: what's your motivation for wishing to become an Irish citizen? In your now-deleted posts, you stated that you limit your time in countries to less than 180 days to avoid paying your fair share of taxes, and you've moved to the Caribbean and South East Asia to avoid contributing to the funding of your home country - the UK. So, given that Irish tax laws are comparable to the UK's, why are you so keen to become Irish? Are you a big Ceilidh fan? Or do you have an obsessive interest in the folklore of Ireland (obviously excluding anything that involves the lazy feckless Irish peasants that have been deliberately delaying your FBR certificate delivery)?

You're obviously a very principled pillar of the community so I'm sure you wouldn't just be adding an extra passport to your collection so you can easily stay away from any particular country long enough to avoid paying their taxes...

Court2 wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 22, 2019 4:21 pm

Congrats!

You said in an earlier post, you had to submit further documents directly to the new FBR office. Please can you provide the address?

If anyone else has sent additional documents please can you also confirm the address? I do not wish to use the London embassy as they seem to have quite literally been cut out of the process now!

Hopefully this is OK to post. As it may prove of use to others also. And I would imagine it's probably out there online somewhere anyway. But if not, admins feel free to delate, and will send via PM.

FBR Section
Department of Foreign Affairs & Trade
PO Box 9718
Balbriggan
Co Dublin
Ireland

upliam wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 22, 2019 6:42 pm

7 Months Today. Also waiting for that E-Mail!

7 yesterday

BrexitEscapee wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 23, 2019 2:01 am

Sulla wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 22, 2019 11:22 pm

BerxitEscapeeI am truly sorry that your remarks were censored. I am against all forms of restrictions on freedom of expression. I would, however, respectfully request that you don't misrepresent me.

I bent over backwards not to identify you in my last post as you had every right to report the undiplomatic language I'd used in earlier posts.

I am sorry I missed some of your posts. I've been away from this forum for a couple of weeks, because I have been disgusted with the ridiculous chest-thumping and outrage at the Irish government, and the idle threats about baseless lawsuits. I thought it was we US citizens who had a reputation for expecting the whole world would bow down to our expectations for service. But obviously we Americans are not alone. Why apply for citizenship in a country you despise, unless all you want is an EU passport?

I have always tried to help people on this forum. And you are someone that I think has done the same. I couldn't possibly count the number of times I have quoted your experience on late civil registation of a a grandparent's birth. I have to believe that is enormously helpful to many. It has been a service to this community. But complaints are not.

Like you, I am am now Irish citizen. I am proud of it. And I am grateful to the Irish government for granting me that privilege. There is no other country that would accept me so easily.

I feel sorry for people like Michael, who has asked for my advice in the past, and is patiently waiting for news. I look forward to hearing that his citizenship has being granted. But for those who really don't care about being a citizen of the Irish Republic and simply want an EU passport - especially if it means suing the Irish government in the process? You can go ***** yourselves. Ireland doesn't need people like you.

If I get censored or banned for this, so be it.

Éirinn go Brách

BrexitEscapee

The term tax exile is a bit of a misnomer, but I'm fine with the label. I can live in the U.K. for 182 days a year without liability. Actually, I have spent exactly 14 days there in the last decade. The underfunded public services are not exactly groaning under the weight of my usage. I do not return because I prefer other places, not because of anything to do with taxation. If I really wanted to, I could become a non-domiciled British resident, which would allow me to live in the U.K. on an unlimited basis and be exempt from U.K. income & capital gains taxes except on remittances into the U.K or money actually earned there. You may disagree with that in principle, but it is nonetheless the legal situation.

I pay taxes on property income in both the U.K. and Ireland. In both instances 20% minus some deductibles. The average U.K. worker pays circa GBP 6000 in income tax and NI to the government annually. I pay almost double that to HMRC and just over that to the Irish revenue. This is despite not living in either country. I think that's my fair share. Certainly, it's what I am legally obligated to pay.

The Irish passport confers no tax advantages on me whatsoever. It you think it does, please enlighten me as to what they are. A person with one passport (preferably Tier A) can enjoy the same opportunity to relocate to a tax friendly location and reduce or eliminate their tax liability as a person with 5-6 passports. Tax (except for U.S. citizens or PR holders) is determined by residence, not citizenship. Check up on it if you disbelieve me.

My motivation for acquisition of Irish citizenship has already been plainly stated. I wish to remain an EU citizen. I think this is not an unusual motive among British applicants. In addition to remaining an EU citizen, I like the fact that Ireland is a traditionally neutral country which is a non NATO member. Since I spend time in China and Russia every year, I will use the Irish passport to enter both of those states in the future. Coming from Scotland originally, I have precisely no affection for Ceilidh.

I did not and would not make any remarks about peasants. I am not quite so medieval in my mindset. That is purely a product of your imagination. Also, please note, I did not flag any post to the moderators. In my view, as long as you don't use excessive profanity, it's all good. I suggest from now on we just agree to differ and stick to discussing the FBR process. You can PM me if you really want to continue the discussion.

All the best