Foreign Birth Registration

cdfly · Post by **cdfly** » Sat Feb 29, 2020 3:53 am

Hi all. Currently working on a joint FBR application with my sister through our paternal grandmother. (We have been "working on it for years", but a surprise pregnancy has been a swift kick to the pants!)
At this point, we are just waiting on the last few documents to be mailed to us.

Today, I received the requested "marriage certificate" from my grandmother's first marriage.... Much to my surprise, the Clerk of Phila County mailed the "certified marriage license and certificate." The first page contains the clerk's certification+seal, and also a scan of the "duplicate certificate" that is basically a mini marriage certificate. I think this is what was returned to the Clerk to confirm that their marriage was performed. The second page is the marriage license application.
Can anyone advise if this document would cover the original marriage certificate requirement? ..Or do I have to go through dealing with the Phila County Clerk's office again..?

Separate question: Can proof of address (bank statement + pay stub) be printed out? All of my recent bills/pay are electronic to save paper

Thanks so much for your help in advanced!

Lee2521 · Post by **Lee2521** » Sat Feb 29, 2020 10:02 am

cdfly wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 29, 2020 3:53 am
Hi all. Currently working on a joint FBR application with my sister through our paternal grandmother. (We have been "working on it for years", but a surprise pregnancy has been a swift kick to the pants!)
At this point, we are just waiting on the last few documents to be mailed to us.

Today, I received the requested "marriage certificate" from my grandmother's first marriage.... Much to my surprise, the Clerk of Phila County mailed the "certified marriage license and certificate." The first page contains the clerk's certification+seal, and also a scan of the "duplicate certificate" that is basically a mini marriage certificate. I think this is what was returned to the Clerk to confirm that their marriage was performed. The second page is the marriage license application.
Can anyone advise if this document would cover the original marriage certificate requirement? ..Or do I have to go through dealing with the Phila County Clerk's office again..?

Separate question: Can proof of address (bank statement + pay stub) be printed out? All of my recent bills/pay are electronic to save paper

Thanks so much for your help in advanced!

Hi Cdfly,

I had a look and added the link for the New York consulate which states
what documents are needed for US applicants and even though some countries are similar there could be a few differences in requirements. I applied from the UK so slightly different.

NYC Irish consulate,
https://www.dfa.ie/irish-consulate/newy ... ion-guide/

It does mention that printed bank statements and stubs are OK
Long form marriage certificate for grandparent whom you are claiming Irish citizenship from

I hope this helps and you can always send them an e-mail to check if your not still not sure.

Good luck

seanhodges · Post by **seanhodges** » Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:43 pm

seanhodges wrote: ↑
Fri Feb 28, 2020 6:48 pm
11 days of ‘processing’ on my passport application and they emailed today to tell me they have rejected the photo I sent (exactly the same one that they accepted for the FBR certificate ).
Still, their country, their rules (my country now )

I’ll use the photo resubmission link. Is it a digital upload or do I have to get new prints, have them witnessed and post them?

Turned out to be easy as pie. Got my daughter to take a new pic (she has best phone) and uploaded it to the site linked from the email. All done in minutes. Hopefully processing restarts Monday

Iamsouthy · Post by **Iamsouthy** » Sun Mar 01, 2020 10:11 pm

I'm now at 12 months and 1.5 weeks since Dublin accepted my application. I'm calling in tomorrow. People have spoken to in the past said I should have no problem with getting approval and all my documents were accounted for. This is ridiculous. I was told 9 to 12 months. So I hope I can get this resolved in the next week. Perhaps it's because my grandfather is from North Ireland.

Application received February 19, 2019 for those wondering.

MKCG · Post by **MKCG** » Mon Mar 02, 2020 5:23 pm

Is there any known timeframe for getting all your docs back after a successful passport application.?

I’m Waiting on my mums docs back from her passport application so I can re-use for My FbR. She received her passport book on Saturday 29th feb and got her passport ID card through the post today.

DanaMarie · Post by **DanaMarie** » Mon Mar 02, 2020 10:39 pm

MKCG wrote: ↑
Mon Mar 02, 2020 5:23 pm
Is there any known timeframe for getting all your docs back after a successful passport application.?

I’m Waiting on my mums docs back from her passport application so I can re-use for My FbR. She received her passport book on Saturday 29th feb and got her passport ID card through the post today.

They told me that my docs will be posted 4 weeks after my passport was dispatched. Super inconvenient!

seanhodges · Post by **seanhodges** » Tue Mar 03, 2020 8:39 am

seanhodges wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:43 pm

seanhodges wrote: ↑
Fri Feb 28, 2020 6:48 pm
11 days of ‘processing’ on my passport application and they emailed today to tell me they have rejected the photo I sent (exactly the same one that they accepted for the FBR certificate ).
Still, their country, their rules (my country now )

I’ll use the photo resubmission link. Is it a digital upload or do I have to get new prints, have them witnessed and post them?
Turned out to be easy as pie. Got my daughter to take a new pic (she has best phone) and uploaded it to the site linked from the email. All done in minutes. Hopefully processing restarts Monday

Yep, smooth as silk. Process restarted Monday, and immediately switched to 'printing'. Later in the day it switched to 'printing passport card', so I checked the history and they had already posted the 'passport book' (what the rest of us call a passport).
Barring postal problems, I should have my passport to wave at my colleagues on St Patrick's Day!

Jordann26 · Post by **Jordann26** » Tue Mar 03, 2020 2:42 pm

My Dad's Irish passport was dispatched on 2/28. Does anyone know how long it usually takes to get to the U.S. after that?

Overall, this process was much faster than we thought. We had sent the passport app to the Irish Consulate in NYC on Jan 31st and by Feb 5th it was already in Dublin for processing and then dispatched the 28th. And worth noting my Dad had a more complicated case (his birth mother who's Irish gave him up for adoption in the US so there was extra paperwork needed). But also makes me feel good about there not being problems with me and my siblings FBR apps

MKCG · Post by **MKCG** » Tue Mar 03, 2020 4:14 pm

DanaMarie wrote: ↑
Mon Mar 02, 2020 10:39 pm

MKCG wrote: ↑
Mon Mar 02, 2020 5:23 pm
Is there any known timeframe for getting all your docs back after a successful passport application.?

I’m Waiting on my mums docs back from her passport application so I can re-use for My FbR. She received her passport book on Saturday 29th feb and got her passport ID card through the post today.
They told me that my docs will be posted 4 weeks after my passport was dispatched. Super inconvenient!

Have you had urs back yet ?
If so, how long did it actually take.
Also where are you in the world. I’m in Scotland. I’m assuming that our location/s will also have a bearing on the length of time to get them back.

kmosfet · Post by **kmosfet** » Tue Mar 03, 2020 4:45 pm

This will be my final post. I applied for my FBR Jan 10th 2019. Received FBR Dec 23rd I believe and immediately applied for my irish passport.

Passport was received Feb 28th. So the turn around time for my passport to Toronto was about 10 - 11 weeks. They told me not to expect to arrive for latest 14 weeks. So I am quite happy to get it a bit earlier.

Best of luck everyone.

DanaMarie · Post by **DanaMarie** » Tue Mar 03, 2020 6:24 pm

MKCG wrote: ↑
Tue Mar 03, 2020 4:14 pm

DanaMarie wrote: ↑
Mon Mar 02, 2020 10:39 pm

MKCG wrote: ↑
Mon Mar 02, 2020 5:23 pm
Is there any known timeframe for getting all your docs back after a successful passport application.?

I’m Waiting on my mums docs back from her passport application so I can re-use for My FbR. She received her passport book on Saturday 29th feb and got her passport ID card through the post today.
They told me that my docs will be posted 4 weeks after my passport was dispatched. Super inconvenient!
Have you had urs back yet ?
If so, how long did it actually take.
Also where are you in the world. I’m in Scotland. I’m assuming that our location/s will also have a bearing on the length of time to get them back.

I only got my passport less than two weeks ago so no documents yet. I'm also in Scotland! I think the post took 3-4 days from Ireland for my passport and about that for my certificate when it was sent out. So I think maybe a couple of weeks away still from seeing my docs back unfortunately.

Lee2521 · Post by **Lee2521** » Tue Mar 03, 2020 9:17 pm

LA8887 wrote: ↑
Thu Feb 27, 2020 12:12 pm

Lee2521 wrote: ↑
Thu Feb 27, 2020 10:45 am
I am based in Bristol and I have always used a photo booth for all my visas and passport photos and never had any issues with them , you can get your photos done for the Irish passport too now in boots and other retailers plus I have had my US student visa photo taken on the same one .

Passport application
Firstly 1 x digital photo
Certificates for passport as follows - Birth Certificate , FBR Cert , proof of name and proof of address via (Utility bill) (Bank Statement) and 3 x forms from the passport application
I thought you also needed to send some photo ID like original driving licence or passport, or a certified copy of them? Or have they relaxed that now?

Hi LA8887,

Your right, you need to send a certified copy of photo ID in the form of a passport or driving license, certified copy of Social Security Card or National ID Card (One of the items of ID) check requirements for country you are resident in to make sure.

I quickly posted the previous post just to mention the bulk of required documents and forgot to mention copy of passport/driving license but it's always best to check the DFA website before applying.

TrishMc · Post by **TrishMc** » Tue Mar 03, 2020 9:41 pm

Hi Jordan,
How did you send your documents from the US to the FBR PO box in Ireland? I just tried DHL and they do not deliver to PO Boxes. The USPS form has some customs stuff I am not familiar with - any suggestions?

Jordann26 wrote: ↑
Tue Mar 03, 2020 2:42 pm
My Dad's Irish passport was dispatched on 2/28. Does anyone know how long it usually takes to get to the U.S. after that?

Overall, this process was much faster than we thought. We had sent the passport app to the Irish Consulate in NYC on Jan 31st and by Feb 5th it was already in Dublin for processing and then dispatched the 28th. And worth noting my Dad had a more complicated case (his birth mother who's Irish gave him up for adoption in the US so there was extra paperwork needed). But also makes me feel good about there not being problems with me and my siblings FBR apps

MKCG · Post by **MKCG** » Tue Mar 03, 2020 11:14 pm

DanaMarie wrote: ↑
Tue Mar 03, 2020 6:24 pm

MKCG wrote: ↑
Tue Mar 03, 2020 4:14 pm

DanaMarie wrote: ↑
Mon Mar 02, 2020 10:39 pm

MKCG wrote: ↑
Mon Mar 02, 2020 5:23 pm
Is there any known timeframe for getting all your docs back after a successful passport application.?

I’m Waiting on my mums docs back from her passport application so I can re-use for My FbR. She received her passport book on Saturday 29th feb and got her passport ID card through the post today.
They told me that my docs will be posted 4 weeks after my passport was dispatched. Super inconvenient!
Have you had urs back yet ?
If so, how long did it actually take.
Also where are you in the world. I’m in Scotland. I’m assuming that our location/s will also have a bearing on the length of time to get them back.
I only got my passport less than two weeks ago so no documents yet. I'm also in Scotland! I think the post took 3-4 days from Ireland for my passport and about that for my certificate when it was sent out. So I think maybe a couple of weeks away still from seeing my docs back unfortunately.

That’s not ideal. A bit disheartening from my angle to be honest lol
Think I’m Gona have to just be patient and wait for them to arrive. I don’t want to do the FBR application online Incase the docs I’m waiting for get lost in the post or whatever between Dublin & Glasgow

chrisinpm · Post by **chrisinpm** » Tue Mar 03, 2020 11:53 pm

And it's over, folks.

Confirmation of application receipt: 28Mar2019.
Address confirmation email received: 20Feb2020
Added to FBR: 03Mar2020

So glad I found this community. You folks kept me sane through this process.

Best wishes to those who are still waiting - and special thanks to Sulla who maintains the master list.

Jordann26 · Post by **Jordann26** » Wed Mar 04, 2020 2:11 am

TrishMc wrote: ↑
Tue Mar 03, 2020 9:41 pm
Hi Jordan,
How did you send your documents from the US to the FBR PO box in Ireland? I just tried DHL and they do not deliver to PO Boxes. The USPS form has some customs stuff I am not familiar with - any suggestions?

Jordann26 wrote: ↑
Tue Mar 03, 2020 2:42 pm
My Dad's Irish passport was dispatched on 2/28. Does anyone know how long it usually takes to get to the U.S. after that?

Overall, this process was much faster than we thought. We had sent the passport app to the Irish Consulate in NYC on Jan 31st and by Feb 5th it was already in Dublin for processing and then dispatched the 28th. And worth noting my Dad had a more complicated case (his birth mother who's Irish gave him up for adoption in the US so there was extra paperwork needed). But also makes me feel good about there not being problems with me and my siblings FBR apps

I did USPS. Didn't have any issues come up with customs or anything, it was pretty standard when I went there and they processed it for me. UPS wouldn't deliver to PO Boxes. I got confirmation from FBR that they received them same day so no issues.

Kernzy · Post by **Kernzy** » Wed Mar 04, 2020 9:24 am

Certificate came yesterday.

Documents received in Dublin: 26th March 2019
Confirm address email: 18th Feb 2020
Added to register: 20th Feb 2020
Certificate received: 3rd March 2020

Lee2521 · Post by **Lee2521** » Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:34 am

MKCG wrote: ↑
Tue Mar 03, 2020 11:14 pm

DanaMarie wrote: ↑
Tue Mar 03, 2020 6:24 pm

MKCG wrote: ↑
Tue Mar 03, 2020 4:14 pm

DanaMarie wrote: ↑
Mon Mar 02, 2020 10:39 pm

They told me that my docs will be posted 4 weeks after my passport was dispatched. Super inconvenient!
Have you had urs back yet ?
If so, how long did it actually take.
Also where are you in the world. I’m in Scotland. I’m assuming that our location/s will also have a bearing on the length of time to get them back.
I only got my passport less than two weeks ago so no documents yet. I'm also in Scotland! I think the post took 3-4 days from Ireland for my passport and about that for my certificate when it was sent out. So I think maybe a couple of weeks away still from seeing my docs back unfortunately.
That’s not ideal. A bit disheartening from my angle to be honest lol
Think I’m Gona have to just be patient and wait for them to arrive. I don’t want to do the FBR application online Incase the docs I’m waiting for get lost in the post or whatever between Dublin & Glasgow

Hi MKCG

You can still do the application for the FBR without the documents but it's paused until documents and the FBR form is received but it dosen't speed anything up anyway .

The DFA hold onto the passport application certificates up to 4 weeks after the passport/passport cards have been received and mine was returned in under this time about 3 weeks after .
Also it could be quicker not sure if it's slower when apply from the FBR route than the Irish parent route for passports also if it's a renewal or new passport app .

mrtea99 · Post by **mrtea99** » Wed Mar 04, 2020 3:58 pm

I received my confirmation of address email at last, here's my timeline:

2019-03-29 - Online application submitted
2019-03-30 - Physical application sent by post to Balbriggan
2019-04-05 - Received email confirming documents received
2020-03-02 - Confirmation of address email

PasadenaTom · Post by **PasadenaTom** » Thu Mar 05, 2020 4:31 am

Jordann26 wrote: ↑
Tue Mar 03, 2020 2:42 pm
My Dad's Irish passport was dispatched on 2/28. Does anyone know how long it usually takes to get to the U.S. after that?

My recollection is that it took about a week (I got mine in October 2018) following the appearance of the "Dispatched" status . Dublin sent the passport to the San Francisco consulate (where I sent my passport application) Then the consulate sent it to me via Fedex.

seanhodges · Post by **seanhodges** » Thu Mar 05, 2020 10:47 am

seanhodges wrote: ↑
Tue Mar 03, 2020 8:39 am

seanhodges wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:43 pm

seanhodges wrote: ↑
Fri Feb 28, 2020 6:48 pm
11 days of ‘processing’ on my passport application and they emailed today to tell me they have rejected the photo I sent (exactly the same one that they accepted for the FBR certificate ).
Still, their country, their rules (my country now )

I’ll use the photo resubmission link. Is it a digital upload or do I have to get new prints, have them witnessed and post them?
Turned out to be easy as pie. Got my daughter to take a new pic (she has best phone) and uploaded it to the site linked from the email. All done in minutes. Hopefully processing restarts Monday
Yep, smooth as silk. Process restarted Monday, and immediately switched to 'printing'. Later in the day it switched to 'printing passport card', so I checked the history and they had already posted the 'passport book' (what the rest of us call a passport).
Barring postal problems, I should have my passport to wave at my colleagues on St Patrick's Day!

Passport arrived yesterday, almost exactly 12 months since I started the whole process on 12th March 2019. Still waiting for passport card and returned documents, but I made it in time for St Patrick's Day!
Good luck to everyone else with their applications to join me as a new member of the club

Garkim · Post by **Garkim** » Thu Mar 05, 2020 7:11 pm

I am just wondering, I was born in South Africa and was registered on the FBR on the 26 August 1986. In the nineties I tried to register my daughter who was born on the 6 March 1982 but was told I could not because it had to be done before the 31st July 1986. I tried a few times and it was the same story but yesterday I found this article that extends it to the 31st December 1986 https://www.oireachtas.ie/ga/debates/de ... 4-04-21/5/
Now I am wondering if it is still possible to register her. Many thanks for any help.

Fbrlad · Post by **Fbrlad** » Thu Mar 05, 2020 10:15 pm

You are missing the main point: for your daughter to be entitled for irish citizenship, her parent (you) has to be Irish AT the time she was BORN.

She was born in 1982 and you became Irish in 1986 (4 years after her birth) so the fbr applies to you and not your daughter, however, any son/daughter born after your FBR certificate date, can become Irish (anyone born after 6/8/1986)

Londonharp · Post by **Londonharp** » Thu Mar 05, 2020 10:20 pm

Hi everyone,

Heres an update!

My details:
Application sent: 27/02/2019
Recieved in Dublin: 28/03/2019
Address Confirmation: 27/02/2020
Confirmation of name placed on register and certificate sent: 05/03/2020

I'll let you know when I recieve and send off my passport application!

Regards
LH

MKCG · Post by **MKCG** » Fri Mar 06, 2020 10:20 am

Lee2521 wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:34 am

MKCG wrote: ↑
Tue Mar 03, 2020 11:14 pm

DanaMarie wrote: ↑
Tue Mar 03, 2020 6:24 pm

MKCG wrote: ↑
Tue Mar 03, 2020 4:14 pm

Have you had urs back yet ?
If so, how long did it actually take.
Also where are you in the world. I’m in Scotland. I’m assuming that our location/s will also have a bearing on the length of time to get them back.
I only got my passport less than two weeks ago so no documents yet. I'm also in Scotland! I think the post took 3-4 days from Ireland for my passport and about that for my certificate when it was sent out. So I think maybe a couple of weeks away still from seeing my docs back unfortunately.
That’s not ideal. A bit disheartening from my angle to be honest lol
Think I’m Gona have to just be patient and wait for them to arrive. I don’t want to do the FBR application online Incase the docs I’m waiting for get lost in the post or whatever between Dublin & Glasgow
Hi MKCG

You can still do the application for the FBR without the documents but it's paused until documents and the FBR form is received but it dosen't speed anything up anyway .

The DFA hold onto the passport application certificates up to 4 weeks after the passport/passport cards have been received and mine was returned in under this time about 3 weeks after .
Also it could be quicker not sure if it's slower when apply from the FBR route than the Irish parent route for passports also if it's a renewal or new passport app .

Thanks for the info lee

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