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MKCG
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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by MKCG » Fri Mar 06, 2020 10:28 am

Applied online for FBR on Wednesday, 4/3/20 which all got paid & went through ok.

Waiting on docs coming back from mums successful passport application. I Will update when I send my paper docs through.


Ps

I noticed the FBR paper application asks for a stamp, business card or headed letter for the appropriate person who will certify true copy etc.

Does this matter??

I’ve got a couple of suitable ppl as options, a doctor and a school vice principal, I also have a qualified accountant (not sure if an accountant is allowed actually).

I’m not 100% sure if they Have any of the above as proof of profession (I will need to ask), although the accountant does have his own business so he would be ok in that respect)

MKCG
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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by MKCG » Fri Mar 06, 2020 11:20 am

MKCG wrote:
Fri Mar 06, 2020 10:28 am
Applied online for FBR on Wednesday, 4/3/20 which all got paid & went through ok.

Waiting on docs coming back from mums successful passport application. I Will update when I send my paper docs through.


Ps

I noticed the FBR paper application asks for a stamp, business card or headed letter for the appropriate person who will certify true copy etc.

Does this matter??

I’ve got a couple of suitable ppl as options, a doctor and a school vice principal, I also have a qualified accountant (not sure if an accountant is allowed actually).

I’m not 100% sure if they Have any of the above as proof of profession (I will need to ask), although the accountant does have his own business so he would be ok in that respect)
Edit
Would NHS headed paper be ok?
As in, it only has the NHS logo at the top. No address or mention of the particular doctors name etc

BrexitEscapee
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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by BrexitEscapee » Fri Mar 06, 2020 12:54 pm

MKCG wrote:
Fri Mar 06, 2020 10:28 am
I’ve got a couple of suitable ppl as options, a doctor and a school vice principal, I also have a qualified accountant (not sure if an accountant is allowed actually).

I’m not 100% sure if they Have any of the above as proof of profession (I will need to ask), although the accountant does have his own business so he would be ok in that respect)

Edit
Would NHS headed paper be ok?
As in, it only has the NHS logo at the top. No address or mention of the particular doctors name etc
I got my mate to do the signing on mine as he's a GP. I'd assumed he'd only have a business card, but he turned up at the pub armed with a proper stamp. Apparently, they need to use stamps for all sorts of official paperwork and prescriptions etc. so worth asking your doctor. If not, everyone has a business card. I doubt generic NHS letterhead paper would cut it.

Lee2521
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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by Lee2521 » Fri Mar 06, 2020 9:05 pm

MKCG wrote:
Fri Mar 06, 2020 11:20 am
MKCG wrote:
Fri Mar 06, 2020 10:28 am
Applied online for FBR on Wednesday, 4/3/20 which all got paid & went through ok.

Waiting on docs coming back from mums successful passport application. I Will update when I send my paper docs through.


Ps

I noticed the FBR paper application asks for a stamp, business card or headed letter for the appropriate person who will certify true copy etc.

Does this matter??

I’ve got a couple of suitable ppl as options, a doctor and a school vice principal, I also have a qualified accountant (not sure if an accountant is allowed actually).

I’m not 100% sure if they Have any of the above as proof of profession (I will need to ask), although the accountant does have his own business so he would be ok in that respect)
Edit
Would NHS headed paper be ok?
As in, it only has the NHS logo at the top. No address or mention of the particular doctors name etc
I had my FBR witnessed by my GP and he used a stamp just like Brexitescape has mentioned and this gets stamped onto your paper FBR copy of the online app and mine cost me £30 for this service.

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by Garkim » Sat Mar 07, 2020 8:28 pm

Well I did not miss any point, On Friday 06 March 20 I rang the passport office in Dublin nd explained the FBR act 01 July 1986 states anyone registered after 1986 cannot register their siblings unless they were born after the parent was registered. Anyone born before that falls under the 1956 act. Well I explained that I was registered in August 1986 so where do I fall in.They went and check and came back telling what every clown has told me for the last 20 years. An hour after that I received a missed call from them and considering I gave them only dates and no names. I rang them back and fortunately the same person I spoke to earlier answered and stated they hoped I would phone back, They done some research and there was an amendment made that anyone registered between 1 July 1986 to the 21 st December 1986 falls into the cooling off period and can register their siblings. Moral of the story don't always believe what you read.

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by jgclancy » Sat Mar 07, 2020 8:54 pm

Garkim wrote:
Sat Mar 07, 2020 8:28 pm
Well I did not miss any point, On Friday 06 March 20 I rang the passport office in Dublin nd explained the FBR act 01 July 1986 states anyone registered after 1986 cannot register their siblings unless they were born after the parent was registered. Anyone born before that falls under the 1956 act. Well I explained that I was registered in August 1986 so where do I fall in.They went and check and came back telling what every clown has told me for the last 20 years. An hour after that I received a missed call from them and considering I gave them only dates and no names. I rang them back and fortunately the same person I spoke to earlier answered and stated they hoped I would phone back, They done some research and there was an amendment made that anyone registered between 1 July 1986 to the 21 st December 1986 falls into the cooling off period and can register their siblings. Moral of the story don't always believe what you read.
Do you mean children instead of siblings?

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Garkim
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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by Garkim » Sat Mar 07, 2020 9:34 pm

Yes, sorry children

BrexitEscapee
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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by BrexitEscapee » Sat Mar 07, 2020 9:50 pm

Garkim wrote:
Sat Mar 07, 2020 8:28 pm
Well I did not miss any point, On Friday 06 March 20 I rang the passport office in Dublin nd explained the FBR act 01 July 1986 states anyone registered after 1986 cannot register their siblings unless they were born after the parent was registered. Anyone born before that falls under the 1956 act. Well I explained that I was registered in August 1986 so where do I fall in.They went and check and came back telling what every clown has told me for the last 20 years. An hour after that I received a missed call from them and considering I gave them only dates and no names. I rang them back and fortunately the same person I spoke to earlier answered and stated they hoped I would phone back, They done some research and there was an amendment made that anyone registered between 1 July 1986 to the 21 st December 1986 falls into the cooling off period and can register their siblings. Moral of the story don't always believe what you read.
Well done for persevering! This sort of authoritative, detailed info is gold-dust and it would be really useful it could be compiled into a comprehensive, categorised FAQ list for FBR.

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by Fbrlad » Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:04 am

Garkim wrote:
Sat Mar 07, 2020 8:28 pm
Well I did not miss any point, On Friday 06 March 20 I rang the passport office in Dublin nd explained the FBR act 01 July 1986 states anyone registered after 1986 cannot register their siblings unless they were born after the parent was registered. Anyone born before that falls under the 1956 act. Well I explained that I was registered in August 1986 so where do I fall in.They went and check and came back telling what every clown has told me for the last 20 years. An hour after that I received a missed call from them and considering I gave them only dates and no names. I rang them back and fortunately the same person I spoke to earlier answered and stated they hoped I would phone back, They done some research and there was an amendment made that anyone registered between 1 July 1986 to the 21 st December 1986 falls into the cooling off period and can register their siblings. Moral of the story don't always believe what you read.
Ah I see - I thought you are talking about something else (not related to this specific cooling-off period in the law). Sorry I missed the point.

Great you have managed to contact them and also great they were very responsive (and positive) in this manner.

please update us on how it goes.

Mariecws
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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by Mariecws » Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:25 am

Journey has finally ended! My final timeline:

- Received email confirming docs received in Dublin: 27 March 2019
- Email received asking to confirm address: 24 Feb 2020
- Added to FBR: 24 Feb 2020
- Certificate and returned docs received: 9 March 2020

So 11.5 months altogether. Good luck to all those still waiting!

Mariecws
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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by Mariecws » Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:29 am

MKCG wrote:
Fri Mar 06, 2020 10:28 am

I noticed the FBR paper application asks for a stamp, business card or headed letter for the appropriate person who will certify true copy etc.
I didn't send any of these, nothing other than them signing the form, witnessing the photos and ID copy, and got approved!

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by EmmaKate » Mon Mar 09, 2020 7:04 pm

Sorry if this is a silly question, but is the address confirmation email obviously from the DFA? I've now gone past the 1 year point since I got confirmation of docs received in Dublin and I'm wondering (probably irrationally!) if I didn't spot it and deleted it as spam :shock:

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by jgclancy » Mon Mar 09, 2020 7:52 pm

EmmaKate wrote:
Mon Mar 09, 2020 7:04 pm
Sorry if this is a silly question, but is the address confirmation email obviously from the DFA? I've now gone past the 1 year point since I got confirmation of docs received in Dublin and I'm wondering (probably irrationally!) if I didn't spot it and deleted it as spam :shock:

If it's one year since you had the application received e-mail then you should call them and ask.
jgclancy

Kmui
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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by Kmui » Mon Mar 09, 2020 7:59 pm

Mariecws wrote:
Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:25 am
Journey has finally ended! My final timeline:

- Received email confirming docs received in Dublin: 27 March 2019
- Email received asking to confirm address: 24 Feb 2020
- Added to FBR: 24 Feb 2020
- Certificate and returned docs received: 9 March 2020

So 11.5 months altogether. Good luck to all those still waiting!
Congratulations!

pissedoffbyinis
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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by pissedoffbyinis » Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:13 pm

Applied for FBR registration for my new born in Brussels 4 / 5 weeks ago... got the citizenship approval today.
Surprised and happy at the same time.
Best of luck for the others waiting.

Fbrlad
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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by Fbrlad » Tue Mar 10, 2020 8:50 am

Approval in 5 weeks? Wow! How did you succeed in such short time? We’ve been waiting for ages. Any information is much appreciated

Mariecws
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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by Mariecws » Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:32 pm

EmmaKate wrote:
Mon Mar 09, 2020 7:04 pm
Sorry if this is a silly question, but is the address confirmation email obviously from the DFA? I've now gone past the 1 year point since I got confirmation of docs received in Dublin and I'm wondering (probably irrationally!) if I didn't spot it and deleted it as spam :shock:
It's from FBR clarifications or something similar

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by Iamsouthy » Tue Mar 10, 2020 5:48 pm

I have called into Dublin 3x last week from Toronto, as my documents were accepted Feb 19/2019. The woman i spoke to the first time was usless and didnt do anything. Wednesday and Friday got the same girl who said she would get them to complete it and send it, as it's almost been 12 months and 3 weeks. When I applied I made sure everything was together. So I am calling again tomorrow as this is absolutely ridiculous.

I have to leave for Ireland next month for a job offer. They need to tell people if itll be past 1 year but right now they're just saying 9 to 12 months. I will be glad when this is over....

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by KAR1100 » Tue Mar 10, 2020 7:24 pm

Hi everyone,

For some reason I can’t login to my old account so created a new one.

I finally got the confirmation of address email today!

Application received: 9 April 2019
Address email: 10 March 2020

Thanks,

Kyle

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by jgclancy » Tue Mar 10, 2020 7:48 pm

KAR1100 wrote:
Tue Mar 10, 2020 7:24 pm
Hi everyone,
For some reason I can’t login to my old account so created a new one.

I finally got the confirmation of address email today!

Application received: 9 April 2019
Address email: 10 March 2020
Thanks,
Kyle
Congrats!

Finally----an April applicant. Progress.

jgclancy

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by BigDaddy100 » Wed Mar 11, 2020 1:34 am

jgclancy wrote:
Tue Mar 10, 2020 7:48 pm
KAR1100 wrote:
Tue Mar 10, 2020 7:24 pm
Hi everyone,
For some reason I can’t login to my old account so created a new one.

I finally got the confirmation of address email today!

Application received: 9 April 2019
Address email: 10 March 2020
Thanks,
Kyle
Congrats!

Finally----an April applicant. Progress.

jgclancy
Getting closer to the July folks every day... :wink:

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by Ccscah12 » Wed Mar 11, 2020 1:34 pm

Hi all! I’m also an April 2019 applicant and still have yet to receive an email but figured I’d contribute an update once received!

Online application submitted: April 5 2019
Documents received in Dublin: April 16 2019
Email received confirming address: pending

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration documents required

Post by Adminme » Thu Mar 12, 2020 9:17 am

Greetings.

I wonder if anyone reading this can help me with the following:

I am a Brit, born and raised in England applying to register my foreign birth in Ireland prior to applying for an Irish passport due to Brexit.

My maternal grandmother was born in Ireland (Wexford). Neither of my parents were born in Ireland/N. Ireland, and they have not registered their births (which were both in England) in Ireland.

My question is in regard to the Documents relating to the Irish citizen parent (my mother) I have to provide with my application.

I have the required birth and marriage certificates so my question is only in regard to the ‘Photocopy of current state-issued ID document (i.e. passport, drivers licence, national identity card) certified as a true copy of the original by a professional from the list of witnesses’ for my Mother which I have to provide.

She has neither a passport (and is too old and infirm to attend the require interview to get one of these) or a drivers licence and so I have been looking into getting a national identity card for her.

I note from the Gov.uk web-site that UK government national identity cards were scrapped in 2011, but I have found that there is something called a CitizenCard

On the CitizenCard web-site it says: “A CitizenCard is an official UK ID / proof of age card recognised as such by the Home Office, the Chartered Trading Standards Institute and almost all UK retailers and public transport providers including UK airlines. The adult 18+ photo ID card displays the police and the Security Industry Authority logos and all CitizenCards bear the PASS hologram.”

My question is: If I arrange to get a CitizenCard for my Mother will a certified copy of this meet the Foreign Birth Registration application ‘national identity card’ requirement relating to my Mother?

Many thanks in anticipation.

MKCG
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Re: Foreign Birth Registration documents required

Post by MKCG » Thu Mar 12, 2020 11:11 am

Adminme wrote:
Thu Mar 12, 2020 9:17 am
Greetings.

I wonder if anyone reading this can help me with the following:

I am a Brit, born and raised in England applying to register my foreign birth in Ireland prior to applying for an Irish passport due to Brexit.

My maternal grandmother was born in Ireland (Wexford). Neither of my parents were born in Ireland/N. Ireland, and they have not registered their births (which were both in England) in Ireland.

My question is in regard to the Documents relating to the Irish citizen parent (my mother) I have to provide with my application.

I have the required birth and marriage certificates so my question is only in regard to the ‘Photocopy of current state-issued ID document (i.e. passport, drivers licence, national identity card) certified as a true copy of the original by a professional from the list of witnesses’ for my Mother which I have to provide.

She has neither a passport (and is too old and infirm to attend the require interview to get one of these) or a drivers licence and so I have been looking into getting a national identity card for her.

I note from the Gov.uk web-site that UK government national identity cards were scrapped in 2011, but I have found that there is something called a CitizenCard

On the CitizenCard web-site it says: “A CitizenCard is an official UK ID / proof of age card recognised as such by the Home Office, the Chartered Trading Standards Institute and almost all UK retailers and public transport providers including UK airlines. The adult 18+ photo ID card displays the police and the Security Industry Authority logos and all CitizenCards bear the PASS hologram.”

My question is: If I arrange to get a CitizenCard for my Mother will a certified copy of this meet the Foreign Birth Registration application ‘national identity card’ requirement relating to my Mother?

Many thanks in anticipation.
I’m not sure but I don’t think the citizen card is adequate. Is there no way of getting her a U.K. passport to use as proof or even a U.K. provisional driving license. I know this “long way round option” but it might be your only option.

I know if the parent & or grandparent is deceased (grandparent in my case) then the birth, marriage & death cert are adequate. But if one or both are still alive then a passport, driving license or military ID is the most suitable

It may be worth speaking to the Irish passport office in relation to FBR & if what you’re proposing is adequate. The U.K. phone line for the Irish passport off is ‭ +44 20 7373 4339‬. There is an Irish no. also but this may cost more from a U.K. phone

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration documents required

Post by MKCG » Thu Mar 12, 2020 11:24 am

MKCG wrote:
Thu Mar 12, 2020 11:11 am
Adminme wrote:
Thu Mar 12, 2020 9:17 am
Greetings.

I wonder if anyone reading this can help me with the following:

I am a Brit, born and raised in England applying to register my foreign birth in Ireland prior to applying for an Irish passport due to Brexit.

My maternal grandmother was born in Ireland (Wexford). Neither of my parents were born in Ireland/N. Ireland, and they have not registered their births (which were both in England) in Ireland.

My question is in regard to the Documents relating to the Irish citizen parent (my mother) I have to provide with my application.

I have the required birth and marriage certificates so my question is only in regard to the ‘Photocopy of current state-issued ID document (i.e. passport, drivers licence, national identity card) certified as a true copy of the original by a professional from the list of witnesses’ for my Mother which I have to provide.

She has neither a passport (and is too old and infirm to attend the require interview to get one of these) or a drivers licence and so I have been looking into getting a national identity card for her.

I note from the Gov.uk web-site that UK government national identity cards were scrapped in 2011, but I have found that there is something called a CitizenCard

On the CitizenCard web-site it says: “A CitizenCard is an official UK ID / proof of age card recognised as such by the Home Office, the Chartered Trading Standards Institute and almost all UK retailers and public transport providers including UK airlines. The adult 18+ photo ID card displays the police and the Security Industry Authority logos and all CitizenCards bear the PASS hologram.”

My question is: If I arrange to get a CitizenCard for my Mother will a certified copy of this meet the Foreign Birth Registration application ‘national identity card’ requirement relating to my Mother?

Many thanks in anticipation.
I’m not sure but I don’t think the citizen card is adequate. Is there no way of getting her a U.K. passport to use as proof or even a U.K. provisional driving license. I know this “long way round option” but it might be your only option.

I know if the parent & or grandparent is deceased (grandparent in my case) then the birth, marriage & death cert are adequate. But if one or both are still alive then a passport, driving license or military ID is the most suitable

It may be worth speaking to the Irish passport office in relation to FBR & if what you’re proposing is adequate. The U.K. phone line for the Irish passport off is ‭ +44 20 7373 4339‬. There is an Irish no. also but this may cost more from a U.K. phone
Edit
I meant to say that certified true copies are accepted (certainly for passports & driving licences), I have phoned and confirmed with Irish office. They cant expect you to send away your current passport or license away for a yr

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