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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by JuniorBatman » Mon Aug 17, 2020 2:52 pm

I've been lurking too, but given my obsessive collection of data from here tells me I'm going to be lurking for a good while longer I felt I should participate.
serenitybyjan wrote:
Mon Aug 17, 2020 2:18 pm
I am due to get married in a few months and given the timeline is so unclear at the moment, would I need to submit any new documents in my new name or as everything I’ve submitted was in my maiden name will that be ok?

Also, another silly question, if my passport expires before they get to my application due to the long time this has been delayed by, will they accept this as it was valid when I first submitted?
My understanding from other similar posts is that it's the document's validity at time of submission so your passport will be fine because it's proving identity at the time of application. Thinking about it more practically pretty much every application will have expired documents (the address ones, for example, are typically only considered valid for three months) and they wouldn't be able to afford the time or cost of getting new documents for everyone.

Same thing for the maiden name (congratulations, by the way). If all your documents match your birth name it doesn't matter. They won't know that you change your name subsequently. Make sure you get an extra copy of the marriage certificate for when you apply for the passport though!

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by serenitybyjan » Mon Aug 17, 2020 3:29 pm

JuniorBatman wrote:
Mon Aug 17, 2020 2:52 pm
I've been lurking too, but given my obsessive collection of data from here tells me I'm going to be lurking for a good while longer I felt I should participate.
serenitybyjan wrote:
Mon Aug 17, 2020 2:18 pm
I am due to get married in a few months and given the timeline is so unclear at the moment, would I need to submit any new documents in my new name or as everything I’ve submitted was in my maiden name will that be ok?

Also, another silly question, if my passport expires before they get to my application due to the long time this has been delayed by, will they accept this as it was valid when I first submitted?
My understanding from other similar posts is that it's the document's validity at time of submission so your passport will be fine because it's proving identity at the time of application. Thinking about it more practically pretty much every application will have expired documents (the address ones, for example, are typically only considered valid for three months) and they wouldn't be able to afford the time or cost of getting new documents for everyone.

Same thing for the maiden name (congratulations, by the way). If all your documents match your birth name it doesn't matter. They won't know that you change your name subsequently. Make sure you get an extra copy of the marriage certificate for when you apply for the passport though!
Thank you ever so much! That all makes perfect sense. Fingers crossed not too much longer for us!

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by Cath23 » Mon Aug 17, 2020 7:00 pm

jamiepompey wrote:
Mon Aug 17, 2020 11:33 am
Hey Cath23,

You won't get the documents back until the end of the process. They've had my documents for well over a year now. I had to order a new marriage certificate as my wife's UK visa is running out and we need to submit one for her own application. It would be good if they could do some kind of initial document verification/copying and then send back the originals. They must have hundreds of thousands of precious documents in their possession at the moment. Let's hope there isn't a fire or something!
Gotcha thanks. I thought I’d read somewhere that they returned documents near the start of the process, but I suppose that wouldn’t make much sense for them. Fingers crossed we get a safe delivery eventually!

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by DanaMarie » Mon Aug 17, 2020 8:16 pm

serenitybyjan wrote:
Mon Aug 17, 2020 2:18 pm
Hi everyone!

Long time lurker, first time poster. Application was confirmed received in Dublin 27 May 2019 from the UK. So by the looks of it I’m nearly through but given everything going on it seems unpredictable!

I am due to get married in a few months and given the timeline is so unclear at the moment, would I need to submit any new documents in my new name or as everything I’ve submitted was in my maiden name will that be ok?

Also, another silly question, if my passport expires before they get to my application due to the long time this has been delayed by, will they accept this as it was valid when I first submitted?

Thank you!
I got married while I was awaiting my FBR and just let it be. My FBR certificate was issued in my maiden name as that's how I submitted my application. You can always get your Irish passport in your married name you will just need to supply your marriage certificate proving your name change along with the rest of your documents.

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by NJG » Tue Aug 18, 2020 7:42 am

Hello there, first time poster here.

I applied for FBR in May 2019 and wasn't expecting much to happen given the circumstances but have just received the following email and wondered if it was legitimate? I wasn't expecting it and it just sounded slightly 'unusual'. Is it genuine? Many thanks for any help! Email as follows:


" **Please quote your Application Number on all correspondence**

Your application for entry into the Foreign Births Register will be approved shortly and a Foreign Birth Registration Certificate and your original documents will be returned to you by registered post, which will require a signature on delivery.

To ensure these documents are dispatched to the correct address you should confirm your address by return email. If you have moved address since you completed your application you should provide a scanned copy of proof of that new address e.g. original utility bills, bank statements, government correspondence.

Your application will not be approved until you confirm your address.

Regards,

Jamie

Team 5"

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by iwerjk » Tue Aug 18, 2020 8:17 am

NJG wrote:
Tue Aug 18, 2020 7:42 am
Hello there, first time poster here.

I applied for FBR in May 2019 and wasn't expecting much to happen given the circumstances but have just received the following email and wondered if it was legitimate? I wasn't expecting it and it just sounded slightly 'unusual'. Is it genuine? Many thanks for any help! Email as follows:


" **Please quote your Application Number on all correspondence**

Your application for entry into the Foreign Births Register will be approved shortly and a Foreign Birth Registration Certificate and your original documents will be returned to you by registered post, which will require a signature on delivery.

To ensure these documents are dispatched to the correct address you should confirm your address by return email. If you have moved address since you completed your application you should provide a scanned copy of proof of that new address e.g. original utility bills, bank statements, government correspondence.

Your application will not be approved until you confirm your address.

Regards,

Jamie

Team 5"
HI NJG,

That sounds very similar to the Address confirmation email that other people on this forum have received and described. I suspect that it's legitimate. Do you have any reason other than the text to suspect it's fraudulent?

I'm also a May 2019 applicant. Out of curiosity, what day was your application received by the FBR? I think mine was the fourteenth.

All the best!

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by expatlux » Tue Aug 18, 2020 8:35 am

LKB wrote:
Sat Aug 15, 2020 1:52 pm
I have all the documents I need to apply for FBR but having some trouble finding a suitable witness.
Is it ok the complete the online application and delay sending the witnessed form a documents until a few weeks later?
Having read the posts on here it seems that sometimes when the completed form is printed the list of acceptable witnesses is shorter that the list shown on the FBR website. It’s a bit more difficult finding someone on the shorter list.
Would be good to seethe wording regarding the witness before I complete the application.
I know I’m in for a long wait, congratulations to all you people who are nearing the end of this long journey.
I applied (on behalf of my newborn) online in early April 2019, but didn't submit documents until we returned to Ireland in mid-May 2019. As the previous poster mentioned, applications are just getting added to the ever-increasing pile these days anyway. But the sooner your documents are received, the sooner the 12-18+ month wait starts.

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by expatlux » Tue Aug 18, 2020 8:41 am

NJG wrote:
Tue Aug 18, 2020 7:42 am
Hello there, first time poster here.

I applied for FBR in May 2019 and wasn't expecting much to happen given the circumstances but have just received the following email and wondered if it was legitimate? I wasn't expecting it and it just sounded slightly 'unusual'. Is it genuine? Many thanks for any help! Email as follows:


" **Please quote your Application Number on all correspondence**

Your application for entry into the Foreign Births Register will be approved shortly and a Foreign Birth Registration Certificate and your original documents will be returned to you by registered post, which will require a signature on delivery.

To ensure these documents are dispatched to the correct address you should confirm your address by return email. If you have moved address since you completed your application you should provide a scanned copy of proof of that new address e.g. original utility bills, bank statements, government correspondence.

Your application will not be approved until you confirm your address.

Regards,

Jamie

Team 5"
So long as it came from an 'dfa.ie' address that looks legit. Congrats!! All of us from May 2019 are waiting with bated breath for similar emails :D

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by NJG » Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:15 am

It just sounded a bit similar to some scams, asking for for personal information (ie your address and application ref) but doesn't offer you anything to show its legitimate, any kind of reference that only the DFA would know. And obviously you can't go any further without actually doing what it says in the email, so its the sort of thing they do to tempt you into complying! I also thought signing off "xxxxx, Team 5" sounded a bit... unusual!

Its easy to fake a 'from' address and its obvious from my email what my name is, so just thought Id check!!

I got the 'application received' email on 3rd May 2019! Oh exciting!!! :D

Nx
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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by NJG » Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:17 am

I dont know why it keeps changing those words to 'bad quality'... I basically mean make an email appear it's from an address other than the one it is actually from. I don't know why it doesn't like that particular word..?

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by CR001 » Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:37 am

NJG wrote:
Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:17 am
I dont know why it keeps changing those words to 'bad quality'... I basically mean make an email appear it's from an address other than the one it is actually from. I don't know why it doesn't like that particular word..?
It is the forum anti spam filter that changes the word to bad quality.
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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by IrishNJUSAMan » Tue Aug 18, 2020 2:04 pm

@NJG
@LKB
@expatlux
@iwerjk
@serenitybyjan
And all other FBR Applicants with application received dates in May 2019

I am also a May 2019 FBR Applicant with the hard copy application and original documents mailed in May from NJ in the USA to Dublin, FBR confirmation receipt email dated May 27,2019.

It sounds like May applicant activity is occurring at the FBR office which is quite exciting! And at least we have an actual sample of the mailing address verification email that we all anticipate receiving in the near future, thanks for sharing that information so we are all aware.
Let’s keep each other apprised here on any activity/dates including address email verification, added to FBR, FBR certificate and documents received. I hope to be receiving the Mailing address verification email soon! This is exciting, we have all certainly waited a lot longer than the original 6 month processing time cited when we applied. Thanks again for all and I am grateful for this board so we can all communicate and assure one another that we are not alone during this extensive process. ☘️☘️☘️

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by NJG » Tue Aug 18, 2020 2:08 pm

Yes, I just had a call from them in the last half hour and they confirmed my application has been approved and I will receive it in the post in the next 2-3 weeks! :) So May 2019 applications are being approved now!

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by cordatum » Tue Aug 18, 2020 2:43 pm

Hi everyone. Has anyone had issues with changing address after moving to another country mid-processing?

I'm a May 2019 applicant so I'm hoping I get the confirmation of address email soon. Problem is that I ended up in the Netherlands for the last few months because of COVID-19 (long story) and will be here for at least the next few months. The address they've got on my application is my address back in Australia with my parents.

If I leave the address as it is, my parents will have to post me all the documents which just delays the wait even further.
I could try to change the address to my NL address but I don't want to jinx anything this far in the process.

Any suggestions?

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by NJG » Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:43 pm

cordatum wrote:
Tue Aug 18, 2020 2:43 pm
Hi everyone. Has anyone had issues with changing address after moving to another country mid-processing?

I'm a May 2019 applicant so I'm hoping I get the confirmation of address email soon. Problem is that I ended up in the Netherlands for the last few months because of COVID-19 (long story) and will be here for at least the next few months. The address they've got on my application is my address back in Australia with my parents.

If I leave the address as it is, my parents will have to post me all the documents which just delays the wait even further.
I could try to change the address to my NL address but I don't want to jinx anything this far in the process.

Any suggestions?
My email said: "If you have moved address since you completed your application you should provide a scanned copy of proof of that new address e.g. original utility bills, bank statements, government correspondence.

Your application will not be approved until you confirm your address..
."

Which is going to take quite some time to get hold of, send off, be processed etc, so personally I think I would just get the paperwork along to the original address (assuming that is where your parents live?) to get it finished and documented. You can always change addresses later if this becomes a permanent address.

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by cordatum » Tue Aug 18, 2020 4:49 pm

NJG wrote:
Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:43 pm

My email said: "If you have moved address since you completed your application you should provide a scanned copy of proof of that new address e.g. original utility bills, bank statements, government correspondence.

Your application will not be approved until you confirm your address..
."

Which is going to take quite some time to get hold of, send off, be processed etc, so personally I think I would just get the paperwork along to the original address (assuming that is where your parents live?) to get it finished and documented. You can always change addresses later if this becomes a permanent address.


I wonder how many pieces of evidence I'd need? I can provide 2 - a government correspondence and a bank statement. Looks like they can be sent in by email, so I guess it won't delay the process by too much... (?)

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by Jordann26 » Tue Aug 18, 2020 5:27 pm

For those of you who recently sent proof of pregnancy documentation to expedite your application, how long did it take from the day the documents arrived to FBR to when you received an email from them? Expected delivery date is mid-October so not very far away.

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by LA8887 » Tue Aug 18, 2020 5:54 pm

cordatum wrote:
Tue Aug 18, 2020 4:49 pm

I wonder how many pieces of evidence I'd need? I can provide 2 - a government correspondence and a bank statement. Looks like they can be sent in by email, so I guess it won't delay the process by too much... (?)
I saw that April applicants were starting to get their certificates through so pre-emptively sent some utility bills to Dublin with my new address on. A few days later I got the address confirmation email saying scans were fine, so nobody seemed to have picked up the ones I posted in time. I took a photo of a water bill and a council tax bill for my new address on my phone and attached them to a reply to the address email. Received a confirmation the next day, congratulations email a week later and my certificate a few days after that. So sending them by email will not delay much at all.

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by cordatum » Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:24 am

LA8887 wrote:
Tue Aug 18, 2020 5:54 pm
cordatum wrote:
Tue Aug 18, 2020 4:49 pm

I wonder how many pieces of evidence I'd need? I can provide 2 - a government correspondence and a bank statement. Looks like they can be sent in by email, so I guess it won't delay the process by too much... (?)
I saw that April applicants were starting to get their certificates through so pre-emptively sent some utility bills to Dublin with my new address on. A few days later I got the address confirmation email saying scans were fine, so nobody seemed to have picked up the ones I posted in time. I took a photo of a water bill and a council tax bill for my new address on my phone and attached them to a reply to the address email. Received a confirmation the next day, congratulations email a week later and my certificate a few days after that. So sending them by email will not delay much at all.
Nice, good to hear that they processed it quickly after you emailed the proof of address.

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rdBN

Post by DanaMarie » Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:54 am

NJG wrote:
Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:43 pm
cordatum wrote:
Tue Aug 18, 2020 2:43 pm
Hi everyone. Has anyone had issues with changing address after moving to another country mid-processing?

I'm a May 2019 applicant so I'm hoping I get the confirmation of address email soon. Problem is that I ended up in the Netherlands for the last few months because of COVID-19 (long story) and will be here for at least the next few months. The address they've got on my application is my address back in Australia with my parents.

If I leave the address as it is, my parents will have to post me all the documents which just delays the wait even further.
I could try to change the address to my NL address but I don't want to jinx anything this far in the process.

Any suggestions?
My email said: "If you have moved address since you completed your application you should provide a scanned copy of proof of that new address e.g. original utility bills, bank statements, government correspondence.

Your application will not be approved until you confirm your address..
."

Which is going to take quite some time to get hold of, send off, be processed etc, so personally I think I would just get the paperwork along to the original address (assuming that is where your parents live?) to get it finished and documented. You can always change addresses later if this becomes a permanent address.
I also moved countries during the process (US to UK), you only need to provide updated proof of address when contacted to do so at the end of your application process prior to approval. I contacted the FBR section proactively when I moved and they responded essentially saying it didn't matter until they got to the point of sending me the address verification. I got the email several weeks later, supplied the proof, there were no other questions and I received my docs and FBR certificate to my new address without issue.

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by NJG » Wed Aug 19, 2020 10:53 am

Ah excellent, good to know.

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by Emrosc » Wed Aug 19, 2020 1:10 pm

Long time lurker here! I’m an FBR applicant through my grandmother, who was born in Belfast.

My address at the time of application was old BUT I had noted my new address (current address now) on the application since I was moving in a few months when I sent everything in. I just received my address confirmation email last week, and I responded immediately via email, confirming my current address and attaching a copy of a bill showing this. For those of you that have had to show proof of current address, did you mail in a physical copy of proof? Or did you email that back?

I haven’t heard anything in response, but want to make sure my application goes through ok, especially since I’m so close.

Application sent: 11 April 2019 from MN, USA
Email confirmation of receipt of application: 30 April 2019
Address confirmation email: 13 August 2020
Date added to FBR: Pending
Certificate Received: Pending

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by DanaMarie » Thu Aug 20, 2020 11:24 am

Emrosc wrote:
Wed Aug 19, 2020 1:10 pm
Long time lurker here! I’m an FBR applicant through my grandmother, who was born in Belfast.

My address at the time of application was old BUT I had noted my new address (current address now) on the application since I was moving in a few months when I sent everything in. I just received my address confirmation email last week, and I responded immediately via email, confirming my current address and attaching a copy of a bill showing this. For those of you that have had to show proof of current address, did you mail in a physical copy of proof? Or did you email that back?

I haven’t heard anything in response, but want to make sure my application goes through ok, especially since I’m so close.

Application sent: 11 April 2019 from MN, USA
Email confirmation of receipt of application: 30 April 2019
Address confirmation email: 13 August 2020
Date added to FBR: Pending
Certificate Received: Pending
You don't need to send in a hard copy, a scanned and emailed copy is just fine.

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by fvigaud » Thu Aug 20, 2020 1:03 pm

Final Update on FBR process:

Application submitted online: 19 April 2019
App posted (Fedex from Washington, DC to Balbriggan): 22 April 2019
Email acknowledging receipt in Balbriggan: 26 April 2019
Confirmation of address email: 24 July 2020 (I replied nearly instantaneously)
Added to FBR: 27 July 2020
Congrats email: 04 August 2020
FBR certificate received: 17 August 2020

Oddly, my FBR certificate came with all my original documentation (my understanding is that they come separately) but there was no passport application enclosed, despite the congrats/welcome letter stating an app was enclosed...

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by Dfreem1 » Thu Aug 20, 2020 6:59 pm

Hi all,

I had a quick question on the citizenship ceremony.

According to the official website you need to pay a fee of €950 and travel to Ireland in order to complete your citizenship application process.

I have already submitted my FBR application and have just become aware of this extra cost. I'm sure it wasn't this expensive when I originally applied in Apr 2019! I'm now weighing up whether this cost is prohibitive and whether I can actually go through with it.

Did all of the successful applicants have to attend this ceremony? There hasn't been many mentions of it on this forum... that I can find.

Thanks for any help.

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