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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by jgclancy » Fri Oct 16, 2020 5:50 pm

Mirroch wrote:
Fri Oct 16, 2020 5:09 pm
Hello all.

Well, I appear to be up s*** creek with my FBR application. Applied August 2019. Didn't hear anything until two days ago, when I got an email rejecting my parents' marriage certificate. Apparently it has to be a civil certificate, not a church one - I didn't even know there was a difference. And it is the only marriage certificate my parents have ever had.

I have no idea how to get another certificate. My mum is English/Irish, but she met and married my dad in America. As they got married 57 or 58 years ago, they cannot even remember the state they got married in, let alone the town or name of the synagogue. The state is probably Pennsylvania, but could be New Jersey. And they probably got married in 1962, but they're not absolutely sure. They, surprisingly, do remember the date, but I have to try to find the exact year too.

I've emailed the DFA asking them for the details on the marriage certificate (e.g. name of synagogue), explaining my predicament and that I can't progress any further until I have them. However, I don't even know if the DFA reply to emails. I do know from this site they have become impossible to contact since COVID and there is no phone number for them anymore. In the meantime, there is a ticking clock as I've only been given 28 days to send them the required document.

Given how long ago this marriage was and that it took place in a foreign country and in a religious building, I genuinely have no idea if I can even get a civil certificate. Supposing there's no record of my parents' marriage anywhere in America? Am I stuffed then?
New Jersey marriage index: https://archive.org/details/njmarriagei ... itleSorter

Pennsylvania --Pennsylvania Marriages, 1709-1940 index is on familysearch.org free to join & use

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by Mirroch » Fri Oct 16, 2020 8:57 pm

jgclancy wrote:
Fri Oct 16, 2020 5:50 pm
New Jersey marriage index: https://archive.org/details/njmarriagei ... itleSorter

Pennsylvania --Pennsylvania Marriages, 1709-1940 index is on familysearch.org free to join & use

jgclancy
Thanks a lot for those links.

Unfortunately it's not looking good. Nothing came up for New Jersey - I searched 1961-63. I think I can rule out New Jersey as an option now, especially as my parents lived in Pennysylvania and thus were probably more likely to have married there.

But nothing is coming up for Pennsylvania either. I found a list of marriage records for that state, but they are either unaccessible to the public or only go up to 1950. The only one which claims to go up to the present (findmypast.com), I couldn't find either my dad or mum. I could find my grandfather, but that doesn't help :/

https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Ho ... _-_Present

I will have to take another approach. County courthouses appear to be the places to look for marriage records in America. But there are dozens of them in Pennsylvania alone. Without knowing what town or synagogue my parents got married in, it will be like looking for a needle in a haystack. I'll just have to try to getting in touch with the DFA again if they don't respond by Monday.

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by jgclancy » Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:52 pm

Mirroch wrote:
Fri Oct 16, 2020 8:57 pm
jgclancy wrote:
Fri Oct 16, 2020 5:50 pm
New Jersey marriage index: https://archive.org/details/njmarriagei ... itleSorter

Pennsylvania --Pennsylvania Marriages, 1709-1940 index is on familysearch.org free to join & use

jgclancy
Thanks a lot for those links.

Unfortunately it's not looking good. Nothing came up for New Jersey - I searched 1961-63. I think I can rule out New Jersey as an option now, especially as my parents lived in Pennysylvania and thus were probably more likely to have married there.

But nothing is coming up for Pennsylvania either. I found a list of marriage records for that state, but they are either unaccessible to the public or only go up to 1950. The only one which claims to go up to the present (findmypast.com), I couldn't find either my dad or mum. I could find my grandfather, but that doesn't help :/

https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Ho ... _-_Present

I will have to take another approach. County courthouses appear to be the places to look for marriage records in America. But there are dozens of them in Pennsylvania alone. Without knowing what town or synagogue my parents got married in, it will be like looking for a needle in a haystack. I'll just have to try to getting in touch with the DFA again if they don't respond by Monday.
You can try to find a Pennsylvania Genealogy Group on Facebook and ask people to take a look for them.
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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by Berthalily18 » Sun Oct 18, 2020 11:20 am

BrexitEscapee wrote:
Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:16 pm
Berthalily18 wrote:
Thu Oct 15, 2020 7:25 pm
Hi. Would it be correct to say it's far better to go the Late Registration route rather than submit grandparents birth certificates that you think/hope are.correct, bearing in mind that although the Irish authorities are well aware that discrepancies exist on records, it will nevertheless cause problems if the DOB shown on a birth certificate is different to the exact DOB shown on that person's death certificate? I'm not at all sure how they view errors in birth dates that exist through no fault of our own. Many thanks.
To do a late registration, one of the things you have to do is get the GRO to do a records search for your grandparent's birth registry entry (using all the details you've got) and then produce an official certificate to say nothing was found. In your case, they'll just find that your grandparent's birth was registered, and you won't be able to go any further. So you've got no option - you have to proceed with the birth certificate as it stands. There are lots of examples on this forum of people who've successfully applied with all sorts of discrepancies in the documentation - the Irish authorities are well aware that official records contained inaccuracies at the time of our grandparents' births because literacy was generally low and record-keeping wasn't precise.

(Just thought I'd mention that when I I referred to birth records/certificates in my possession, I was referring to one which I hoped was correct which I found online and then ordered. I didn't mean one that I had from my family that I'd been passed down. I now realise it's not related to my grandmother, as I've had it corroborated that the date I had in my possession was correct! Anyway, I'm making progress now. No need to reply)

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by DanaMarie » Sun Oct 18, 2020 12:05 pm

Mirroch wrote:
Fri Oct 16, 2020 5:09 pm
Hello all.

Well, I appear to be up s*** creek with my FBR application. Applied August 2019. Didn't hear anything until two days ago, when I got an email rejecting my parents' marriage certificate. Apparently it has to be a civil certificate, not a church one - I didn't even know there was a difference. And it is the only marriage certificate my parents have ever had.

I have no idea how to get another certificate. My mum is English/Irish, but she met and married my dad in America. As they got married 57 or 58 years ago, they cannot even remember the state they got married in, let alone the town or name of the synagogue. The state is probably Pennsylvania, but could be New Jersey. And they probably got married in 1962, but they're not absolutely sure. They, surprisingly, do remember the date, but I have to try to find the exact year too.

I've emailed the DFA asking them for the details on the marriage certificate (e.g. name of synagogue), explaining my predicament and that I can't progress any further until I have them. However, I don't even know if the DFA reply to emails. I do know from this site they have become impossible to contact since COVID and there is no phone number for them anymore. In the meantime, there is a ticking clock as I've only been given 28 days to send them the required document.

Given how long ago this marriage was and that it took place in a foreign country and in a religious building, I genuinely have no idea if I can even get a civil certificate. Supposing there's no record of my parents' marriage anywhere in America? Am I stuffed then?
I had a similar issue in that I was not able to find a civil marriage record either, though my grandparents presented themselves as legally married. I hired an attorney, performed an exhaustive search for records which cost me a decent chunk of change paying for each record request, and then had to admit that it was entirely likely that while my grandparents may have had a church wedding they were not legally married. I presented all of the vital records office letters stating no record was found (I paid for searches for a 10 year timeframe) and had my attorney draft an affidavit that although my grandparents presented themselves as a married couple that we believe based on the lack of legal records they were never in a civil marriage. I was added to the FBR last November. Is it possible that your parents never legalized their ceremony? In the US you must apply for a licence, then have the ceremony, and then have the marriage certificate signed by the officiant and the couple and returned to the county to be filed and recorded, and then a marriage certificate is issued. If they skipped that filing step then they are married in the eyes of their religious institution but potentially not by law. You may find it helpful to call the state vital records department, in my experience they were very kind and helpful especially once I explained the situation.

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by Mirroch » Sun Oct 18, 2020 3:21 pm

DanaMarie wrote:
Sun Oct 18, 2020 12:05 pm
I had a similar issue in that I was not able to find a civil marriage record either, though my grandparents presented themselves as legally married. I hired an attorney, performed an exhaustive search for records which cost me a decent chunk of change paying for each record request, and then had to admit that it was entirely likely that while my grandparents may have had a church wedding they were not legally married. I presented all of the vital records office letters stating no record was found (I paid for searches for a 10 year timeframe) and had my attorney draft an affidavit that although my grandparents presented themselves as a married couple that we believe based on the lack of legal records they were never in a civil marriage. I was added to the FBR last November. Is it possible that your parents never legalized their ceremony? In the US you must apply for a licence, then have the ceremony, and then have the marriage certificate signed by the officiant and the couple and returned to the county to be filed and recorded, and then a marriage certificate is issued. If they skipped that filing step then they are married in the eyes of their religious institution but potentially not by law. You may find it helpful to call the state vital records department, in my experience they were very kind and helpful especially once I explained the situation.
Oh my god, what a nightmare. I'm glad you were eventually able to get citizenship, but I am dismayed at the prospect of paying significant legal fees - I can't really afford that.

I have no idea now whether my parents legalised their marriage or not. I'll ask them if they filed their certicate after they got married, but I highly doubt they'll remember. Since posting this, I've found out the DFA have a new webchat which is open from Monday-Friday, so tomorrow I'll get in touch with them. My mum thinks she remembers the name of the synagogue now - I have googled it and it does exist. But I'd still like to confirm it from the marriage certificate. Once I've done that, I'll phone the state's vital records office and see if they've got any record of my parents' marriage.

Thanks. You've been very helpful.

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by FlyingMum » Mon Oct 19, 2020 12:08 pm

My son received his acceptance and confirmation of address email address this morning.

Application online completed 7 July 2019
Documents received in Balbriggen 10 July 2019

Keep the faith, things ARE moving.

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by AntrimGrandchild » Mon Oct 19, 2020 3:05 pm

Good morning/afternoon/evening! I just wanted to provide a couple more updates about my place in the process..

Application submitted online: 4th June 2019
Email acknowledging receipt of documents (Balbriggan): 13th June 2019
Confirmation of address email: 8th October 2020
Date added to FBR: 9th October 2020
Congrats email: I didn't receive one, but I guess the webchat with the DFA offices today would count (19th October 2020)
FBR certificate received: Pending

I would encourage anyone that received a confirmation of address email in early or mid October that didn't hear a response yet to reach out to the webchat service. This might be helpful to finding out if where you are in the process. Good luck and will continue to update as I hear more!

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by jgclancy » Mon Oct 19, 2020 3:14 pm

AntrimGrandchild wrote:
Mon Oct 19, 2020 3:05 pm


I would encourage anyone that received a confirmation of address email in early or mid October that didn't hear a response yet to reach out to the webchat service. This might be helpful to finding out if where you are in the process. Good luck and will continue to update as I hear more!
I've had no luck whatsoever getting anywhere with the webchat. Always says not available.....I've given up trying it ---- and just wait....and wait....and wait....andwait.......patience .....

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by AntrimGrandchild » Mon Oct 19, 2020 3:30 pm

jgclancy wrote:
Mon Oct 19, 2020 3:14 pm
AntrimGrandchild wrote:
Mon Oct 19, 2020 3:05 pm


I would encourage anyone that received a confirmation of address email in early or mid October that didn't hear a response yet to reach out to the webchat service. This might be helpful to finding out if where you are in the process. Good luck and will continue to update as I hear more!
I've had no luck whatsoever getting anywhere with the webchat. Always says not available.....I've given up trying it ---- and just wait....and wait....and wait....andwait.......patience .....

jgclancy
I am so sorry to hear that! I just keep refreshing the page for a couple minutes until the webchat box turns green and says available. And then it's a quick input of information before the inquiry box says unavailable too. :(

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by jgclancy » Mon Oct 19, 2020 3:56 pm

AntrimGrandchild wrote:
Mon Oct 19, 2020 3:30 pm
jgclancy wrote:
Mon Oct 19, 2020 3:14 pm
AntrimGrandchild wrote:
Mon Oct 19, 2020 3:05 pm


I would encourage anyone that received a confirmation of address email in early or mid October that didn't hear a response yet to reach out to the webchat service. This might be helpful to finding out if where you are in the process. Good luck and will continue to update as I hear more!
I've had no luck whatsoever getting anywhere with the webchat. Always says not available.....I've given up trying it ---- and just wait....and wait....and wait....andwait.......patience .....

jgclancy
I am so sorry to hear that! I just keep refreshing the page for a couple minutes until the webchat box turns green and says available. And then it's a quick input of information before the inquiry box says unavailable too. :(
I've waited this log that I don't really care. I just hate that they don't have a better system to relay info.I've tried refreshing...everything...always just not available. If it goes passed Nov 7th then I'll try again---that'll be day 500

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by Mirroch » Mon Oct 19, 2020 4:12 pm

jgclancy wrote:
Mon Oct 19, 2020 3:14 pm
I've had no luck whatsoever getting anywhere with the webchat. Always says not available.....I've given up trying it ---- and just wait....and wait....and wait....andwait.......patience .....

jgclancy
I got through fairly quickly (approx 20 minute wait), but it wasn't worth it, if that's any consolation to you.

The guy was useless. Told me he didn't have the physical certificates and to email the processer who had declined my application. I told him I did last week and had no response. He told me to try again and ended the chat before I could ask another question. Compare to this to last year where somebody answered my email the next day and the person on the telephone was prompt, friendly and resolved my query.

If it hasn't been for Covid, we'd probably still have the telephone service. I don't know why they couldn't have kept that going anyway.

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by ReturningIrish » Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:00 am

After 14 months, there has now been some movement on my daughter's application for citizenship by descent. We had an email on Friday asking for new photos as the ones we sent with her application are now considered out of date. I posted the new photos this morning. Here's an updated timeline.

FBR application (for my daughter):

Application submitted: 5 August 2019
Application received in Dublin: 14 August 2019*
Email requesting new photos: 16 October 2020
Photos received in Cork: Pending
Congratulations you are now an Irish citizen email: Pending
Printing of FBR certificate: Pending
Delivery of FBR certificate: Pending


* Date of email acknowledging receipt of application and supporting documents

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by aleapples » Tue Oct 20, 2020 7:47 am

Hi All,

With Ireland now locking down again under restrictions, does anyone know if the offices will be kept open to process applications? My docs were received in Aug 2019 so I was hoping I didn't have too long left!

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by Mandino55 » Tue Oct 20, 2020 12:20 pm

aleapples wrote:
Tue Oct 20, 2020 7:47 am
Hi All,

With Ireland now locking down again under restrictions, does anyone know if the offices will be kept open to process applications? My docs were received in Aug 2019 so I was hoping I didn't have too long left!
The Department of Foreign Affairs website states:

"Foreign Birth Registrations

The processing of Foreign Birth Registrations will now pause until Dublin returns to Level 3 on the National Framework for Living with COVID-19."

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by Corkythecat » Tue Oct 20, 2020 12:24 pm

Passport Online

The Passport Service is open for applications but we have paused processing as Ireland is at Level 5 of the National Framework for Living with COVID-19. There will be an update in 6 weeks.

Foreign Birth Registrations

The processing of Foreign Birth Registrations will now pause until Dublin returns to Level 3 on the National Framework for Living with COVID-19.

Applications that have been sent to the FBR team have been securely held and will now be processed in strict date order. At present, due to the complex nature of the Foreign Birth Registration it takes between 12 to 18 months to process a completed Foreign Birth Registration application.

This has been posted on https://www.dfa.ie/passports/

I applied August 2019 - so look like it will be sometime in 2021 now.

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by jgclancy » Tue Oct 20, 2020 12:41 pm

Corkythecat wrote:
Tue Oct 20, 2020 12:24 pm
Passport Online

The Passport Service is open for applications but we have paused processing as Ireland is at Level 5 of the National Framework for Living with COVID-19. There will be an update in 6 weeks.

Foreign Birth Registrations

The processing of Foreign Birth Registrations will now pause until Dublin returns to Level 3 on the National Framework for Living with COVID-19.

Applications that have been sent to the FBR team have been securely held and will now be processed in strict date order. At present, due to the complex nature of the Foreign Birth Registration it takes between 12 to 18 months to process a completed Foreign Birth Registration application.

This has been posted on https://www.dfa.ie/passports/

I applied August 2019 - so look like it will be sometime in 2021 now.
"strict date order"?? I doubt that from what I've seen lately. I'm a late June 2019 applicant and I've seen July & August 2019 applicants get approved. Oh well....guessing not this year now. Will buy another box of patience I guess.

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by Nodrick » Tue Oct 20, 2020 1:57 pm

jgclancy wrote:
Tue Oct 20, 2020 12:41 pm
Corkythecat wrote:
Tue Oct 20, 2020 12:24 pm
Passport Online

The Passport Service is open for applications but we have paused processing as Ireland is at Level 5 of the National Framework for Living with COVID-19. There will be an update in 6 weeks.

Foreign Birth Registrations

The processing of Foreign Birth Registrations will now pause until Dublin returns to Level 3 on the National Framework for Living with COVID-19.

Applications that have been sent to the FBR team have been securely held and will now be processed in strict date order. At present, due to the complex nature of the Foreign Birth Registration it takes between 12 to 18 months to process a completed Foreign Birth Registration application.

This has been posted on https://www.dfa.ie/passports/

I applied August 2019 - so look like it will be sometime in 2021 now.
"strict date order"?? I doubt that from what I've seen lately. I'm a late June 2019 applicant and I've seen July & August 2019 applicants get approved. Oh well....guessing not this year now. Will buy another box of patience I guess.

jgclancy
I was just about to put similar -I''m a May Applicant
Now I might not be Grandfather time, but I'm fairly sure there's some kind of mess up with the chronological order........ lol

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by _CATG_ » Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:10 pm

A bit concerned myself now about something, obviously feel grateful to have got the congratulations e-mail, but got in contact via webchat with the FBR today to ask for a tracking number for my certificate. They gave me a number in return which I put into AnPost - AnPost said they had no record of this, got in contact with a rep from there who again said the parcel was never processed/they have no record.

The parcel is meant to contain my FBR certificate and important validity documents, not really quite sure what to do now-I can't really afford for this to get lost.

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by tomriddle2u » Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:09 pm

Foreign Birth Registrations

The processing of Foreign Birth Registrations will now pause until Dublin returns to Level 3 on the National Framework for Living with COVID-19.

Applications that have been sent to the FBR team have been securely held and will now be processed in strict date order. At present, due to the complex nature of the Foreign Birth Registration, it takes between 12 to 18 months to process a completed Foreign Birth Registration application.

https://www.dfa.ie/passports/

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by DanaMarie » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:41 pm

_CATG_ wrote:
Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:10 pm
A bit concerned myself now about something, obviously feel grateful to have got the congratulations e-mail, but got in contact via webchat with the FBR today to ask for a tracking number for my certificate. They gave me a number in return which I put into AnPost - AnPost said they had no record of this, got in contact with a rep from there who again said the parcel was never processed/they have no record.

The parcel is meant to contain my FBR certificate and important validity documents, not really quite sure what to do now-I can't really afford for this to get lost.
That happens when AnPost has not yet gotten the package even though a label has been printed. Mine said the same and it took a few days to activate. How long has it been since you got the tracking info to the time you checked AnPost?

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by _CATG_ » Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:38 pm

That happens when AnPost has not yet gotten the package even though a label has been printed. Mine said the same and it took a few days to activate. How long has it been since you got the tracking info to the time you checked AnPost?
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Ah thank you this is very helpful info - i only got the tracking number today because I directly contacted the web chat to ask the FBR for it, and the congrats email came last Wednesday hence why I was a bit concerned.

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by Georgia345 » Tue Oct 20, 2020 6:41 pm

tomriddle2u wrote:
Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:09 pm
Foreign Birth Registrations

The processing of Foreign Birth Registrations will now pause until Dublin returns to Level 3 on the National Framework for Living with COVID-19.

Applications that have been sent to the FBR team have been securely held and will now be processed in strict date order. At present, due to the complex nature of the Foreign Birth Registration, it takes between 12 to 18 months to process a completed Foreign Birth Registration application.

https://www.dfa.ie/passports/
I don't understand why they are so lazy. They've been on a long break beginning of this year and already have piles of backlog applications. Even UK Home Office has been continously working during covid19 slowly but at least they keep those applications processed. I am due end of Nov 2020 and since they were only open recently for FBR applications, I only managed to sort out the documents and posted them but the documents are still on the way so there goes the chance for my baby. Even 3rd world countries government depts remained open as I had to retrieve some of my parents documents. I guess I will get a response from them in 2038 when my baby is 18 years old.

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by DanaMarie » Tue Oct 20, 2020 8:05 pm

Georgia345 wrote:
Tue Oct 20, 2020 6:41 pm
tomriddle2u wrote:
Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:09 pm
Foreign Birth Registrations

The processing of Foreign Birth Registrations will now pause until Dublin returns to Level 3 on the National Framework for Living with COVID-19.

Applications that have been sent to the FBR team have been securely held and will now be processed in strict date order. At present, due to the complex nature of the Foreign Birth Registration, it takes between 12 to 18 months to process a completed Foreign Birth Registration application.

https://www.dfa.ie/passports/
I don't understand why they are so lazy. They've been on a long break beginning of this year and already have piles of backlog applications. Even UK Home Office has been continously working during covid19 slowly but at least they keep those applications processed. I am due end of Nov 2020 and since they were only open recently for FBR applications, I only managed to sort out the documents and posted them but the documents are still on the way so there goes the chance for my baby. Even 3rd world countries government depts remained open as I had to retrieve some of my parents documents. I guess I will get a response from them in 2038 when my baby is 18 years old.
You should really check your privilege and remember that you, like all of us, are incredibly lucky that Ireland offers citizenship by descent. And for the record, UKVI closed up shop for months leaving families all over the world separated while their applications sat in a pile, the US has done the same, as have many other industrial and developing nations. There is no laziness involved, these are unprecedented times and government agencies are doing their best in spite of the constraints of the pandemic. You have had your entire life seemingly to get your application submitted so waiting until you were pregnant is not the fault of the Irish government. The FBR section has been quite diligent about processing applications for expectant families when the application materials are noted as such so I'm sure you will be afforded the same treatment. Keep calm and carry on, you will be an Irish citizen before you know it!

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by Georgia345 » Tue Oct 20, 2020 10:22 pm

DanaMarie wrote:
Tue Oct 20, 2020 8:05 pm
Georgia345 wrote:
Tue Oct 20, 2020 6:41 pm
tomriddle2u wrote:
Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:09 pm
Foreign Birth Registrations

The processing of Foreign Birth Registrations will now pause until Dublin returns to Level 3 on the National Framework for Living with COVID-19.

Applications that have been sent to the FBR team have been securely held and will now be processed in strict date order. At present, due to the complex nature of the Foreign Birth Registration, it takes between 12 to 18 months to process a completed Foreign Birth Registration application.

https://www.dfa.ie/passports/
I don't understand why they are so lazy. They've been on a long break beginning of this year and already have piles of backlog applications. Even UK Home Office has been continously working during covid19 slowly but at least they keep those applications processed. I am due end of Nov 2020 and since they were only open recently for FBR applications, I only managed to sort out the documents and posted them but the documents are still on the way so there goes the chance for my baby. Even 3rd world countries government depts remained open as I had to retrieve some of my parents documents. I guess I will get a response from them in 2038 when my baby is 18 years old.
You should really check your privilege and remember that you, like all of us, are incredibly lucky that Ireland offers citizenship by descent. And for the record, UKVI closed up shop for months leaving families all over the world separated while their applications sat in a pile, the US has done the same, as have many other industrial and developing nations. There is no laziness involved, these are unprecedented times and government agencies are doing their best in spite of the constraints of the pandemic. You have had your entire life seemingly to get your application submitted so waiting until you were pregnant is not the fault of the Irish government. The FBR section has been quite diligent about processing applications for expectant families when the application materials are noted as such so I'm sure you will be afforded the same treatment. Keep calm and carry on, you will be an Irish citizen before you know it!
Hello, yes I admit I had my entire life to do it and understand it is unprecedented times but with Ireland's population of 5million ppl if you compare the population with 3rd world countries, I just cannot understand, if they were diligent why must they stop/pause processing applications and prolong the processing time since our original docs are held by them? UKVI did close initially and left applications sat in pile but they adapted with the pandemic since and took action and found a new way to process applications within the country and abroad (slower but at least applications are getting processed). the FBR too had the entire shutdown period to figure out possible ways to continue processing applications but it seems to me they have not adapted/figured another way to process applications when 3rd world countries gov dept were still able to remain open and process applications even during the pandemic? (slower & more safety protocols). Anyway, just my 2cents and thank you. I will keep calm and carry on to welcome my baby soon. 👶

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