Foreign Birth Registration

Jaxx22 · Post by **Jaxx22** » Sat Jun 01, 2019 5:19 am

Sulla wrote: ↑
Fri May 31, 2019 11:04 pm

nick1066 wrote: ↑
Fri May 31, 2019 3:25 pm
Unable to be parted from my UK passport or driving licence for such a long time I had my witness certify a copy of my licence. I know with absolute certainty that this was included with my application yet according to the chatline operative, no such paper was scanned into their system. There is no way to argue against this so I have now had to send my actual driving licence into the unknown and hope to hell they don't lose it again.
Sorry to hear that. This will probably alarm Jaxx. Until now, there had been no known instance (on this thread) of the DFA actually losing documents. At least it was not the FBR section.

Sending your actual driving licence does seem risky. When I applied for FBR and for the passport the embassy asked to see a passport from another country. However, they simply copied it and handed it back.

Yeap! You're right, this is concerning that now there is an instance of documentation being lost because I have had nothing about my application at all, I sent all my documents by recorded mail and I have heard nothing.

Where did you apply from Nick?

Lee2521 · Post by **Lee2521** » Sun Jun 02, 2019 1:51 pm

Jaxx22 wrote: ↑
Sat Jun 01, 2019 5:19 am

Sulla wrote: ↑
Fri May 31, 2019 11:04 pm

nick1066 wrote: ↑
Fri May 31, 2019 3:25 pm
Unable to be parted from my UK passport or driving licence for such a long time I had my witness certify a copy of my licence. I know with absolute certainty that this was included with my application yet according to the chatline operative, no such paper was scanned into their system. There is no way to argue against this so I have now had to send my actual driving licence into the unknown and hope to hell they don't lose it again.
Sorry to hear that. This will probably alarm Jaxx. Until now, there had been no known instance (on this thread) of the DFA actually losing documents. At least it was not the FBR section.

Sending your actual driving licence does seem risky. When I applied for FBR and for the passport the embassy asked to see a passport from another country. However, they simply copied it and handed it back.
Yeap! You're right, this is concerning that now there is an instance of documentation being lost because I have had nothing about my application at all, I sent all my documents by recorded mail and I have heard nothing.

Where did you apply from Nick?
Nick, Jaxx

I got my passport back with no issue after request via the Irish embassy of London so I would of thought both of you should be OK.

Citizenship and passport figuires
2018 FBR Applications : 1213 (UK) 8226 (World)
2018 FBR Certs Issued : 687 (UK)
2019 FBR App (Jan-May) : 607(UK)
2019 FBR Certs Issued : 312 (UK)
2018 Passport applications : 98,544 (UK)
2019 Passport app (Jan - Mar) : 37,258 (UK)
Sorry I don't have all the numbers for other countries

Jacqui309 · Post by **Jacqui309** » Sun Jun 02, 2019 5:38 pm

Lee2521 wrote: ↑
Sun Jun 02, 2019 1:51 pm

Jaxx22 wrote: ↑
Sat Jun 01, 2019 5:19 am

Sulla wrote: ↑
Fri May 31, 2019 11:04 pm

nick1066 wrote: ↑
Fri May 31, 2019 3:25 pm
Unable to be parted from my UK passport or driving licence for such a long time I had my witness certify a copy of my licence. I know with absolute certainty that this was included with my application yet according to the chatline operative, no such paper was scanned into their system. There is no way to argue against this so I have now had to send my actual driving licence into the unknown and hope to hell they don't lose it again.
Sorry to hear that. This will probably alarm Jaxx. Until now, there had been no known instance (on this thread) of the DFA actually losing documents. At least it was not the FBR section.

So they are issuing 50% of certificates to applications. Assuming this isn’t because half are being turned down the process is getting slower and slower. I had hoped as I have waited over a year - confirmation of receipt was 15 May 2018 - I would hear this month but not so sure now!!
Sending your actual driving licence does seem risky. When I applied for FBR and for the passport the embassy asked to see a passport from another country. However, they simply copied it and handed it back.
Yeap! You're right, this is concerning that now there is an instance of documentation being lost because I have had nothing about my application at all, I sent all my documents by recorded mail and I have heard nothing.

Where did you apply from Nick?
Nick, Jaxx

I got my passport back with no issue after request via the Irish embassy of London so I would of thought both of you should be OK.

Citizenship and passport figuires
2018 FBR Applications : 1213 (UK) 8226 (World)
2018 FBR Certs Issued : 687 (UK)
2019 FBR App (Jan-May) : 607(UK)
2019 FBR Certs Issued : 312 (UK)
2018 Passport applications : 98,544 (UK)
2019 Passport app (Jan - Mar) : 37,258 (UK)
Sorry I don't have all the numbers for other countries

Sulla · Post by **Sulla** » Sun Jun 02, 2019 11:44 pm

Hi Lee,

The figures you provided seem really low - aside from the passport application number.

Previously, I have been advised as part of an FOI request that in 2018, 25,823 worldwide FBR applications were received by the DFA and 17,414 entries made on the register. As I mentioned at the time I posted that information, it would be wrong to calculate a success rate using that data, as a good chunk of the entries made in 2018 will have come from 2017 applications and many received in 2018 will not have had a decision made yet.

I am trying to understand why another source is saying 8226 worldwide applications with only 1213 from the UK? Can I ask the source of the information in this instance. Mine came from the FBR department itself in March 2019.

I would also say that the proportion of UK applications within the world total strikes me as far lower than expected. Less than 15% of the total at a time when it has been reported that the Brexit surge has overwhelmed the DFA is surprising. However, It is probably the case that applications from Northern Ireland (FBR & passports) are excluded from the UK totals.

One thing that is interesting is that your data does reveal that 2019 has seen a slight acceleration in application volume. This chimes with what I have been told by the embassy in Beijing. They had 25 applications for FBR in all of 2018 and around 50 between January and March of this year alone. It does appear that many UK applicants left it until quite close to the assumed March 29th 2019 Brexit date before applying. That is not a judgement.

Anyway, thanks for posting this data. If it is accurate, it makes the challenge faced by the DFA to process applications seem substantially less than previously thought.

Lee2521 · Post by **Lee2521** » Mon Jun 03, 2019 8:37 am

Sulla wrote: ↑
Sun Jun 02, 2019 11:44 pm
Hi Lee,

The figures you provided seem really low - aside from the passport application number.

Previously, I have been advised as part of an FOI request that in 2018, 25,823 worldwide FBR applications were received by the DFA and 17,414 entries made on the register. As I mentioned at the time I posted that information, it would be wrong to calculate a success rate using that data, as a good chunk of the entries made in 2018 will have come from 2017 applications and many received in 2018 will not have had a decision made yet.

I am trying to understand why another source is saying 8226 worldwide applications with only 1213 from the UK? Can I ask the source of the information in this instance. Mine came from the FBR department itself in March 2019.

I would also say that the proportion of UK applications within the world total strikes me as far lower than expected. Less than 15% of the total at a time when it has been reported that the Brexit surge has overwhelmed the DFA is surprising. However, It is probably the case that applications from Northern Ireland (FBR & passports) are excluded from the UK totals.

One thing that is interesting is that your data does reveal that 2019 has seen a slight acceleration in application volume. This chimes with what I have been told by the embassy in Beijing. They had 25 applications for FBR in all of 2018 and around 50 between January and March of this year alone. It does appear that many UK applicants left it until quite close to the assumed March 29th 2019 Brexit date before applying. That is not a judgement.

Anyway, thanks for posting this data. If it is accurate, it makes the challenge faced by the DFA to process applications seem substantially less than previously thought.

Sulla
The report was made by the BBC and the figures were from 2 sources firstly the numbers for as follows

FBR UK applications (Irish department of Justice )
Passport UK applications (DFA)
FBR cert issued (Department of Justice)

The passport applications will always be much higher and as for the FBR applications they will be
much lower mostly because of the cost being 278 euros plus getting all the certificates is a pain in the butt

Sulla · Post by **Sulla** » Mon Jun 03, 2019 9:35 am

Lee2521 wrote: ↑
Mon Jun 03, 2019 8:37 am
The report was made by the BBC and the figures were from 2 sources firstly the numbers for as follows

FBR UK applications (Irish department of Justice )
Passport UK applications (DFA)
FBR cert issued (Department of Justice)

The passport applications will always be much higher and as for the FBR applications they will be
much lower mostly because of the cost being 278 euros plus getting all the certificates is a pain in the butt

I think I found the report here in case others are interested:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-48435872

I would say that the figures given for citizenships awarded to UK nationals do not include FBR applications. Instead it reflects people who are using the naturalization route or other routes like marriage or adoption to acquire citizenship. This flows through the Department of Justice. Those people will have citizenship ceremonies etc and is an entirely distinct process. The section of the article that deals with that data refers to ceremonies and then talks about the numbers increasing. Once more with the third table, I think this data applies to people who are naturalizing etc in Ireland and there is a distinction between a Certificate of Irish Nationality and a Foreign Births Registration Certificate.

The passport numbers are from the DFA and reflective of the situation - probably without the inclusion of Northern Irish applications though. However, as for the other figures, I don't think they apply to FBR as they are sourced from the Department of Justice. This is despite there being a couple of references to FBR throughout the article which could be confusing.

This would also explain why the DFA gave me much different and much higher data previously about FBR application volume.

Rbs3 · Post by **Rbs3** » Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:19 am

Hello
Here is my timeline:
Application received by London embassy 27th July 2018.
Added to register and congrats emails received: 26 March.
FBR and all docs received today, 3rd June.

(A total of just over 10 months). Not sure why there was such a delay between being added and receiving the documents, but as we know there are few patterns to how things work. I have found the FBR team very friendly and helpful, and I am very grateful to the Irish state for including me in citizenship.

Good luck to all still waiting!!

pissedoffbyinis · Post by **pissedoffbyinis** » Mon Jun 03, 2019 11:17 am

Need some advice.
I am Irish national through naturalization and living in another EU country... whereas my wife is non-EU national. For the new born to arrive, i will be applying for Irish nationality through FBR route.
The twist here is that if the whole family moves to an non-EU country after the arrival of new born... would it be better to apply from that country or apply from this EU country and giving the return address of a relative / friend?

Sulla · Post by **Sulla** » Mon Jun 03, 2019 11:37 am

pissedoffbyinis wrote: ↑
Mon Jun 03, 2019 11:17 am
Need some advice.
I am Irish national through naturalization and living in another EU country... whereas my wife is non-EU national. For the new born to arrive, i will be applying for Irish nationality through FBR route.
The twist here is that if the whole family moves to an non-EU country after the arrival of new born... would it be better to apply from that country or apply from this EU country and giving the return address of a relative / friend?

In order to apply for FBR, you will need 3x proofs of address and possibly translations, regardless of which foreign nation you apply in. The time taken to get those in a new nation may slow down the process of application. You will also need to consider sourcing all the certificates - like the birth certificate of your newborn and the translation of that if applicable. It will depend on your own circumstances and the ease / speed of doing these things.

In general, you should apply in the country that you are resident in and intend to be in throughout the process. That's the ideal situation. The DFA will want to send your documents and FBR certificate back to the address that you have supplied to them. If you have moved in the meantime to another country, then you will need to go through the process of informing them and possibly they will request further proofs of address and translations if applicable. This may complicate having things sent to a relatives address. Besides this, contacting the DFA is not easy and advising them of a change in address may turn into a lengthy and frustrating experience.

Therefore, it would probably be best to apply from the non-EU country you intend to relocate to. There may also be some merit in applying from a country that has a low number of FBR applications to process. This may accelerate things. However, since I don't know which non-EU nation you intend to venture to, I can't really advise on that.

BrexitEscapee · Post by **BrexitEscapee** » Mon Jun 03, 2019 11:59 am

Rbs3 wrote: ↑
Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:19 am
Hello
Here is my timeline:
Application received by London embassy 27th July 2018.
Added to register and congrats emails received: 26 March.
FBR and all docs received today, 3rd June.

(A total of just over 10 months). Not sure why there was such a delay between being added and receiving the documents, but as we know there are few patterns to how things work. I have found the FBR team very friendly and helpful, and I am very grateful to the Irish state for including me in citizenship.

Good luck to all still waiting!!

Congratulations. Yours took around 4 months longer than mine did last year. A few extra months isn't the end of the world and it sounds like you did the only sensible thing you could while you were waiting - i.e. get on with your life, appreciate the privilege you're being given and not stress yourself out getting bitter and twisted about the process.

rdslight · Post by **rdslight** » Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:41 pm

Rbs3 wrote: ↑
Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:19 am
Hello
Here is my timeline:
Application received by London embassy 27th July 2018.
Added to register and congrats emails received: 26 March.
FBR and all docs received today, 3rd June.

(A total of just over 10 months). Not sure why there was such a delay between being added and receiving the documents, but as we know there are few patterns to how things work. I have found the FBR team very friendly and helpful, and I am very grateful to the Irish state for including me in citizenship.

Good luck to all still waiting!!

Also just received my certificate today.
Application received London Embassy 31st July 2018
Sent for final approval 5th December 2018
Congratulations email not received
Certificate and documents received 3rd June 2019

Hopefully not long now for everyone else!

upliam · Post by **upliam** » Mon Jun 03, 2019 5:23 pm

Michael123 any news on your FBR applications? Haven't seen you post an update recently.

Jacqui309 · Post by **Jacqui309** » Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:07 pm

I applied in April 2018 with receipt 15 May. Has anyone been waiting any longer?

Sulla · Post by **Sulla** » Mon Jun 03, 2019 11:26 pm

Jacqui309 wrote: ↑
Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:07 pm
I applied in April 2018 with receipt 15 May. Has anyone been waiting any longer?

To my knowledge, your wait has been the longest on the board - thus far anyway. The application date in your instance will run from the date of receipt which I think is May 15th in your case. You mention April - is that the date you submitted online? That does not count.

In fairness to the DFA, your application may be regarded as a more complex case, which it is advised can take up to a year. Of course, we don't know what qualifies as "complex" in DFA parlance. I know it has been more than a year, but they also continue to advise wait times of 6 months for non-complex cases and they are nowhere near that mark in terms of actual delivery times.

You indicated previously that you had to submit additional documentation in October 2018 and subsequent to that had several E-Mails requesting clarification of certain aspects of the information provided. The reason underlying the long processing time you have encountered, is probably attributable to the need for the provision / assessment of this further information.

We see from the experience of people who applied from the UK in late July that certificates are now (belatedly) beginning to appear with timelines of around 10 months. We have Rbs3 and Rdslight both of whom just reported receipt of their certificates. Neither had additional documentation requests. I can only assume that your excessive wait time is linked to the extra information requested and the time taken to deal with that.

Jacqui309 · Post by **Jacqui309** » Tue Jun 04, 2019 6:12 am

Sulla wrote: ↑
Mon Jun 03, 2019 11:26 pm

Jacqui309 wrote: ↑
Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:07 pm
I applied in April 2018 with receipt 15 May. Has anyone been waiting any longer?
To my knowledge, your wait has been the longest on the board - thus far anyway. The application date in your instance will run from the date of receipt which I think is May 15th in your case. You mention April - is that the date you submitted online? That does not count.

In fairness to the DFA, your application may be regarded as a more complex case, which it is advised can take up to a year. Of course, we don't know what qualifies as "complex" in DFA parlance. I know it has been more than a year, but they also continue to advise wait times of 6 months for non-complex cases and they are nowhere near that mark in terms of actual delivery times.

Thanks - April was the date my application was physically posted and then it was just over two weeks for the receipt. I don’t think they looked at the application until the beginning of October which was when they started to ask for clarification. The clarification included me explaining why some documents were in the name O’.... and others didn’t have the name beginning with O’. I do know in December the application had been passed through so I am hoping that I will hear shortly. I don’t think my case is particularly complex just needed some clarification. Probably sensible if people look carefully to see if there are any changes such slight different spellings that they put a note on the application even if they say they have no explanation for this.

My mother is very concerned they have had her birth certificate for over a year. But not really much we can do......

You indicated previously that you had to submit additional documentation in October 2018 and subsequent to that had several E-Mails requesting clarification of certain aspects of the information provided. The reason underlying the long processing time you have encountered, is probably attributable to the need for the provision / assessment of this further information.

We see from the experience of people who applied from the UK in late July that certificates are now (belatedly) beginning to appear with timelines of around 10 months. We have Rbs3 and Rdslight both of whom just reported receipt of their certificates. Neither had additional documentation requests. I can only assume that your excessive wait time is linked to the extra information requested and the time taken to deal with that.

Jaxx22 · Post by **Jaxx22** » Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:06 am

pissedoffbyinis wrote: ↑
Mon Jun 03, 2019 11:17 am
Need some advice.
I am Irish national through naturalization and living in another EU country... whereas my wife is non-EU national. For the new born to arrive, i will be applying for Irish nationality through FBR route.
The twist here is that if the whole family moves to an non-EU country after the arrival of new born... would it be better to apply from that country or apply from this EU country and giving the return address of a relative / friend?

As has been mentioned you need to send proof of address - 3 x different documents that show it. I waited until I moved to a new country thinking it would be easier to apply from here and it took some time to get enough documents together with the new address on because they all filtered through slowly which obviously delayed sending my application but it will be easier to wait from a point of view of returning your documents to you. I don't yet know what happens if you change address during the process, I will be able to let you know that in a few weeks if they require new documents with the new address on - I do hope not because again that will be a slow process waiting for things to filter through.

I suppose really that depends on when you are planning to move, if it is sooner rather than later then I would perhaps wait to apply until you have moved and apply from there.

Congratulations to those who have just received their FBR.

I don't suppose Micheal has heard anything or we would have heard from him. I do hope that he does get something through soon though.

Jacqui I think you have waited the longest so far, I hope that you receive something soon too.

As frustrating as it is I know all we can really do it wait, but it would still be nice to get some sort of communication. Perhaps an automated email say every couple of months even if to say it is still being processed would be good. I personally would like to know that my documents have been received.

Lindsey_T · Post by **Lindsey_T** » Tue Jun 04, 2019 10:04 am

Have not been through the whole board but seen a few recent posts with wait times in the region of 10 months+

I posted my application to the Irish Embassy in The Hague (I am a British citizen living in the Netherlands) in the 1st week of January 2019. Not heard anything back yet, nor confirmation/receipt of documents - I did send it recorded so know it got there ok.

Are we meant to receive an email confirming that they received the documents? I gave the embassy a call today but unfortunately that particular office is closed.

The fee of 278 euros left my bank when I completed the online application, December 27th 2018.

Hol292 · Post by **Hol292** » Tue Jun 04, 2019 10:20 am

Lindsey_T wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 04, 2019 10:04 am
Have not been through the whole board but seen a few recent posts with wait times in the region of 10 months+

I posted my application to the Irish Embassy in The Hague (I am a British citizen living in the Netherlands) in the 1st week of January 2019. Not heard anything back yet, nor confirmation/receipt of documents - I did send it recorded so know it got there ok.

Are we meant to receive an email confirming that they received the documents? I gave the embassy a call today but unfortunately that particular office is closed.

The fee of 278 euros left my bank when I completed the online application, December 27th 2018.

I applied in August 2018 but didn’t get a confirmation of reciept email until January 2019 even though my postage tracker said it had been successfully signed for there. So I guess you get one once they’ve started to process your application, not when it’s delivered to the embassy.

Jaxx22 · Post by **Jaxx22** » Tue Jun 04, 2019 10:22 am

Lindsey_T wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 04, 2019 10:04 am
Have not been through the whole board but seen a few recent posts with wait times in the region of 10 months+

I posted my application to the Irish Embassy in The Hague (I am a British citizen living in the Netherlands) in the 1st week of January 2019. Not heard anything back yet, nor confirmation/receipt of documents - I did send it recorded so know it got there ok.

Are we meant to receive an email confirming that they received the documents? I gave the embassy a call today but unfortunately that particular office is closed.

The fee of 278 euros left my bank when I completed the online application, December 27th 2018.

I am in the same position as you, I posted my application to the embassy in Finland at the beginning of February and like you have not had any confirmation of receipt either and same I sent it recorded so know from the local post office that it was collected by them.

I am under the impression from other posters that we should have an email saying they have received the documents but not sure if this should be from the embassy or the DFA.

LesMalouinettes · Post by **LesMalouinettes** » Tue Jun 04, 2019 10:28 am

Hol292 wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 04, 2019 10:20 am
I applied in August 2018 but didn’t get a confirmation of reciept email until January 2019 even though my postage tracker said it had been successfully signed for there. So I guess you get one once they’ve started to process your application, not when it’s delivered to the embassy.

I got my email upon receipt of my documents at the DFA offices in Dublin. That was Sept 27th, 2018. Tbh, I just think they've become inconsistent with their processes/notifications. I wouldn't pay it much mind.

Michael123 · Post by **Michael123** » Tue Jun 04, 2019 12:03 pm

Jaxx22 wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:06 am

pissedoffbyinis wrote: ↑
Mon Jun 03, 2019 11:17 am
Need some advice.
I am Irish national through naturalization and living in another EU country... whereas my wife is non-EU national. For the new born to arrive, i will be applying for Irish nationality through FBR route.
The twist here is that if the whole family moves to an non-EU country after the arrival of new born... would it be better to apply from that country or apply from this EU country and giving the return address of a relative / friend?
As has been mentioned you need to send proof of address - 3 x different documents that show it. I waited until I moved to a new country thinking it would be easier to apply from here and it took some time to get enough documents together with the new address on because they all filtered through slowly which obviously delayed sending my application but it will be easier to wait from a point of view of returning your documents to you. I don't yet know what happens if you change address during the process, I will be able to let you know that in a few weeks if they require new documents with the new address on - I do hope not because again that will be a slow process waiting for things to filter through.

I suppose really that depends on when you are planning to move, if it is sooner rather than later then I would perhaps wait to apply until you have moved and apply from there.

Congratulations to those who have just received their FBR.

I don't suppose Micheal has heard anything or we would have heard from him. I do hope that he does get something through soon though.

Jacqui I think you have waited the longest so far, I hope that you receive something soon too.

As frustrating as it is I know all we can really do it wait, but it would still be nice to get some sort of communication. Perhaps an automated email say every couple of months even if to say it is still being processed would be good. I personally would like to know that my documents have been received.

Nothing yet.

Lee2521 · Post by **Lee2521** » Tue Jun 04, 2019 2:12 pm

Sulla wrote: ↑
Mon Jun 03, 2019 9:35 am

Lee2521 wrote: ↑
Mon Jun 03, 2019 8:37 am
The report was made by the BBC and the figures were from 2 sources firstly the numbers for as follows

FBR UK applications (Irish department of Justice )
Passport UK applications (DFA)
FBR cert issued (Department of Justice)

The passport applications will always be much higher and as for the FBR applications they will be
much lower mostly because of the cost being 278 euros plus getting all the certificates is a pain in the butt
I think I found the report here in case others are interested:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-48435872

I would say that the figures given for citizenships awarded to UK nationals do not include FBR applications. Instead it reflects people who are using the naturalization route or other routes like marriage or adoption to acquire citizenship. This flows through the Department of Justice. Those people will have citizenship ceremonies etc and is an entirely distinct process. The section of the article that deals with that data refers to ceremonies and then talks about the numbers increasing. Once more with the third table, I think this data applies to people who are naturalizing etc in Ireland and there is a distinction between a Certificate of Irish Nationality and a Foreign Births Registration Certificate.

The passport numbers are from the DFA and reflective of the situation - probably without the inclusion of Northern Irish applications though. However, as for the other figures, I don't think they apply to FBR as they are sourced from the Department of Justice. This is despite there being a couple of references to FBR throughout the article which could be confusing.

This would also explain why the DFA gave me much different and much higher data previously about FBR application volume.

Sulla

You was correct indeed about the naturalization figures not being for the FBR my mistake so the only figures which count for all of us again are these numbers if they are in fact right

FBR certificates issued 2018 - 687 (UK)
Irish passport application from UK - 98,544

Some more figures from the irish journal

https://www.thejournal.ie/irish-passpor ... 6-Jan2018/

maddeningbike · Post by **maddeningbike** » Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:16 pm

Hey, thought I'd join in and add my timeline here too. I applied from the UK by sending my application to the London embassy in August. I received a confirmation on 30th August 2018 but I've heard nothing since.

Not chased just yet because I'm also of the don't make waves school of thought. I found this post while searching online and it's really useful to hear other people's experiences. Thanks all

Pumps100 · Post by **Pumps100** » Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:40 pm

Hi, I am exactly same as you. London Embassy received 29th August. If we can extrapolate from others I reckon it should be another 3 weeks.

All the best
Ian

Sulla · Post by **Sulla** » Tue Jun 04, 2019 11:52 pm

As LesMalouinettes mentioned above, the number/ type of communications that applicants receive from the DFA is highly inconsistent. Some may receive a confirmation of receipt. Others do not. Some may get an E-mail indicating they have been added to the FBR. Others may not. Just because you have not received either of these message types is no cause for alarm. This is especially the case if you already know through postal tracking that the materials were in fact delivered safely.

This degree of randomness in communication elides well with the unpredictability of processing times and the disparity that exists between people who applied essentially at identical moments. Objectively, it is abundantly clear that there are problems and things ought not to be this way.

Pumps100, you said that you anticipate waiting about another 3 weeks having applied on August 29th? I assume you are basing this off the experiences of Rdslight and Rbs3. Though I hope you are right, I would caution you against being so optimistic. James_mcfc applied on July 17th and received his certificate on January 22nd. Richard74 applied on July 31st and received his FBR certificate in the mail on March 29th . Michael applied on August 21st and has been told September 2019. There is massive variation in there.

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