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Valo
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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by Valo » Tue Aug 09, 2022 12:28 pm

morgendorffer wrote:
Tue Aug 09, 2022 12:09 pm
Hello.

I just joined to add my name to the list of people waiting the long wait.
I've been reading the updates on here for ages now.

I procrastinated and procrastinated with getting all the documents required for my application. I had started before COVID, but didn't submit my online application until January 2022 and didn't send off the documents until March 2022.

I'm a bit nervous about an elongated wait as I wasn't able to get hold of a photocopy of my mum's passport due to estrangement from that whole side of the family. Way back when I first started looking into doing this I called up asking if this would be a problem and was advised to submit an application with a simple covering letter explaining the circumstances. There seems to be conflicting opinions on whether that will be actually acceptable or not on here, but that's what I did anyway.

I'm eligible through both my grandparents on my mother's side. My grandad passed away before I was born, included all the necessary documents for him. My grandma is in the care of my mum, so was not able to get a copy of her passport (which is likely expired), but submitted the rest of her documents anyway as 'extra support' - not sure if that will help or not.

I guess I'll be hearing in March 2024 sometime. Sigh.

Online Application: January 17, 2022
Documents Received: March 21, 2022
Address Confirmation: ***
Congratulations Email: ***
FBR cert received: ***
You are not alone. There is a few of us on here. In my case, I am estranged from my mother and thus can't provide her state ID document. Everything else is in order, my mothers birth and marriage certs I could easily get from the relevant registry offices. I have my state ID and grandparents state ID, but obviously can't obtain mothers state ID due to being estranged from her since I was a child. I sent in everything else required, plus a cover letter and an affidavit. In addition to this I also provided my uncles (my mothers' brothers) birth certificate and his state ID as extra documentation. Whilst not entirely relevant, I figured it would help prove that I do indeed have a genuine connection to this family and that my estrangement from my mother is legitimate.

I too have seen conflicting reports. Saw someone late last year who was missing their dad's state ID due to estrangement and when they had their application reviewed they were told to send in their dad's brothers birth and death certificate and they were then accepted. On the other hand I have seen others not succeed, which seems entirely unfair because we are all in the same situation, yet some are succeeding and some are not. I think it entirely depends on the officer dealing with your application. Best thing to do is to send in as much supporting documentation as is feasible.

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by morgendorffer » Tue Aug 09, 2022 12:56 pm

Valo wrote:
Tue Aug 09, 2022 12:28 pm
morgendorffer wrote:
Tue Aug 09, 2022 12:09 pm
Hello.

I just joined to add my name to the list of people waiting the long wait.
I've been reading the updates on here for ages now.

I procrastinated and procrastinated with getting all the documents required for my application. I had started before COVID, but didn't submit my online application until January 2022 and didn't send off the documents until March 2022.

I'm a bit nervous about an elongated wait as I wasn't able to get hold of a photocopy of my mum's passport due to estrangement from that whole side of the family. Way back when I first started looking into doing this I called up asking if this would be a problem and was advised to submit an application with a simple covering letter explaining the circumstances. There seems to be conflicting opinions on whether that will be actually acceptable or not on here, but that's what I did anyway.

I'm eligible through both my grandparents on my mother's side. My grandad passed away before I was born, included all the necessary documents for him. My grandma is in the care of my mum, so was not able to get a copy of her passport (which is likely expired), but submitted the rest of her documents anyway as 'extra support' - not sure if that will help or not.

I guess I'll be hearing in March 2024 sometime. Sigh.

Online Application: January 17, 2022
Documents Received: March 21, 2022
Address Confirmation: ***
Congratulations Email: ***
FBR cert received: ***
You are not alone. There is a few of us on here. In my case, I am estranged from my mother and thus can't provide her state ID document. Everything else is in order, my mothers birth and marriage certs I could easily get from the relevant registry offices. I have my state ID and grandparents state ID, but obviously can't obtain mothers state ID due to being estranged from her since I was a child. I sent in everything else required, plus a cover letter and an affidavit. In addition to this I also provided my uncles (my mothers' brothers) birth certificate and his state ID as extra documentation. Whilst not entirely relevant, I figured it would help prove that I do indeed have a genuine connection to this family and that my estrangement from my mother is legitimate.

I too have seen conflicting reports. Saw someone late last year who was missing their dad's state ID due to estrangement and when they had their application reviewed they were told to send in their dad's brothers birth and death certificate and they were then accepted. On the other hand I have seen others not succeed, which seems entirely unfair because we are all in the same situation, yet some are succeeding and some are not. I think it entirely depends on the officer dealing with your application. Best thing to do is to send in as much supporting documentation as is feasible.
Hmm. I've seen a few posts asking about this, but few about whether their application was successful in the end or not. Hearing about a few outcomes would settle the nerves a little bit.

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by Valo » Tue Aug 09, 2022 1:06 pm

morgendorffer wrote:
Tue Aug 09, 2022 12:56 pm
Valo wrote:
Tue Aug 09, 2022 12:28 pm
morgendorffer wrote:
Tue Aug 09, 2022 12:09 pm
Hello.

I just joined to add my name to the list of people waiting the long wait.
I've been reading the updates on here for ages now.

I procrastinated and procrastinated with getting all the documents required for my application. I had started before COVID, but didn't submit my online application until January 2022 and didn't send off the documents until March 2022.

I'm a bit nervous about an elongated wait as I wasn't able to get hold of a photocopy of my mum's passport due to estrangement from that whole side of the family. Way back when I first started looking into doing this I called up asking if this would be a problem and was advised to submit an application with a simple covering letter explaining the circumstances. There seems to be conflicting opinions on whether that will be actually acceptable or not on here, but that's what I did anyway.

I'm eligible through both my grandparents on my mother's side. My grandad passed away before I was born, included all the necessary documents for him. My grandma is in the care of my mum, so was not able to get a copy of her passport (which is likely expired), but submitted the rest of her documents anyway as 'extra support' - not sure if that will help or not.

I guess I'll be hearing in March 2024 sometime. Sigh.

Online Application: January 17, 2022
Documents Received: March 21, 2022
Address Confirmation: ***
Congratulations Email: ***
FBR cert received: ***
You are not alone. There is a few of us on here. In my case, I am estranged from my mother and thus can't provide her state ID document. Everything else is in order, my mothers birth and marriage certs I could easily get from the relevant registry offices. I have my state ID and grandparents state ID, but obviously can't obtain mothers state ID due to being estranged from her since I was a child. I sent in everything else required, plus a cover letter and an affidavit. In addition to this I also provided my uncles (my mothers' brothers) birth certificate and his state ID as extra documentation. Whilst not entirely relevant, I figured it would help prove that I do indeed have a genuine connection to this family and that my estrangement from my mother is legitimate.

I too have seen conflicting reports. Saw someone late last year who was missing their dad's state ID due to estrangement and when they had their application reviewed they were told to send in their dad's brothers birth and death certificate and they were then accepted. On the other hand I have seen others not succeed, which seems entirely unfair because we are all in the same situation, yet some are succeeding and some are not. I think it entirely depends on the officer dealing with your application. Best thing to do is to send in as much supporting documentation as is feasible.
Hmm. I've seen a few posts asking about this, but few about whether their application was successful in the end or not. Hearing about a few outcomes would settle the nerves a little bit.
When I get back home, I’ll send you over the link to the post on here from someone who succeeded in the same circumstances from late last year.

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by Mr_Knight » Tue Aug 09, 2022 4:46 pm

Valo wrote:
Tue Aug 09, 2022 1:06 pm
morgendorffer wrote:
Tue Aug 09, 2022 12:56 pm
This article discusses the same issue.
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyl ... itizenship

There are over a hundred replies in the comment section. One in particular that repeats the same success of application to be on the FBR.
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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by Valo » Tue Aug 09, 2022 5:09 pm

Mr_Knight wrote:
Tue Aug 09, 2022 4:46 pm
Valo wrote:
Tue Aug 09, 2022 1:06 pm
morgendorffer wrote:
Tue Aug 09, 2022 12:56 pm
This article discusses the same issue.
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyl ... itizenship

There are over a hundred replies in the comment section. One in particular that repeats the same success of application to be on the FBR.
Yeah, this is one I’ve also seen in the past too.

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by Valo » Tue Aug 09, 2022 9:40 pm

morgendorffer wrote:
Tue Aug 09, 2022 12:56 pm
Valo wrote:
Tue Aug 09, 2022 12:28 pm
morgendorffer wrote:
Tue Aug 09, 2022 12:09 pm
Hello.

I just joined to add my name to the list of people waiting the long wait.
I've been reading the updates on here for ages now.

I procrastinated and procrastinated with getting all the documents required for my application. I had started before COVID, but didn't submit my online application until January 2022 and didn't send off the documents until March 2022.

I'm a bit nervous about an elongated wait as I wasn't able to get hold of a photocopy of my mum's passport due to estrangement from that whole side of the family. Way back when I first started looking into doing this I called up asking if this would be a problem and was advised to submit an application with a simple covering letter explaining the circumstances. There seems to be conflicting opinions on whether that will be actually acceptable or not on here, but that's what I did anyway.

I'm eligible through both my grandparents on my mother's side. My grandad passed away before I was born, included all the necessary documents for him. My grandma is in the care of my mum, so was not able to get a copy of her passport (which is likely expired), but submitted the rest of her documents anyway as 'extra support' - not sure if that will help or not.

I guess I'll be hearing in March 2024 sometime. Sigh.

Online Application: January 17, 2022
Documents Received: March 21, 2022
Address Confirmation: ***
Congratulations Email: ***
FBR cert received: ***
You are not alone. There is a few of us on here. In my case, I am estranged from my mother and thus can't provide her state ID document. Everything else is in order, my mothers birth and marriage certs I could easily get from the relevant registry offices. I have my state ID and grandparents state ID, but obviously can't obtain mothers state ID due to being estranged from her since I was a child. I sent in everything else required, plus a cover letter and an affidavit. In addition to this I also provided my uncles (my mothers' brothers) birth certificate and his state ID as extra documentation. Whilst not entirely relevant, I figured it would help prove that I do indeed have a genuine connection to this family and that my estrangement from my mother is legitimate.

I too have seen conflicting reports. Saw someone late last year who was missing their dad's state ID due to estrangement and when they had their application reviewed they were told to send in their dad's brothers birth and death certificate and they were then accepted. On the other hand I have seen others not succeed, which seems entirely unfair because we are all in the same situation, yet some are succeeding and some are not. I think it entirely depends on the officer dealing with your application. Best thing to do is to send in as much supporting documentation as is feasible.
Hmm. I've seen a few posts asking about this, but few about whether their application was successful in the end or not. Hearing about a few outcomes would settle the nerves a little bit.
ireland/foreign-birth-registration-t277 ... l#p2031199

Above is a post on this exact forum from September 2021 of a person who was missing their parents state ID, but nonetheless still succeeded in getting added to the FBR.

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by Stillwater » Thu Aug 11, 2022 8:07 am

Hello,

I just thought I would register to give you some reassurance that this was fine for me. I had the same circumstance and contacted them before applying and they told me the same thing. I submitted a covering letter explaining the circumstances with my application, as instructed, and had no issues. Good luck with your application. :)
morgendorffer wrote:
Tue Aug 09, 2022 12:09 pm
Hello.

[…]

I'm a bit nervous about an elongated wait as I wasn't able to get hold of a photocopy of my mum's passport due to estrangement from that whole side of the family. Way back when I first started looking into doing this I called up asking if this would be a problem and was advised to submit an application with a simple covering letter explaining the circumstances. There seems to be conflicting opinions on whether that will be actually acceptable or not on here, but that's what I did anyway.

[…]

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by Valo » Thu Aug 11, 2022 9:47 am

Stillwater wrote:
Thu Aug 11, 2022 8:07 am
Hello,

I just thought I would register to give you some reassurance that this was fine for me. I had the same circumstance and contacted them before applying and they told me the same thing. I submitted a covering letter explaining the circumstances with my application, as instructed, and had no issues. Good luck with your application. :)
morgendorffer wrote:
Tue Aug 09, 2022 12:09 pm
Hello.

[…]

I'm a bit nervous about an elongated wait as I wasn't able to get hold of a photocopy of my mum's passport due to estrangement from that whole side of the family. Way back when I first started looking into doing this I called up asking if this would be a problem and was advised to submit an application with a simple covering letter explaining the circumstances. There seems to be conflicting opinions on whether that will be actually acceptable or not on here, but that's what I did anyway.

[…]

That’s great to hear. May I ask how long ago it was you applied and were accepted?

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by Stillwater » Thu Aug 11, 2022 10:35 am

I applied late 2019. For me, it was just under 2.5 years from them sending me confirmation of receiving my documents to receiving the certificate; a lot longer than it would have been, due to Covid, obviously.
Valo wrote:
Thu Aug 11, 2022 9:47 am
Stillwater wrote:
Thu Aug 11, 2022 8:07 am
Hello,

I just thought I would register to give you some reassurance that this was fine for me. I had the same circumstance and contacted them before applying and they told me the same thing. I submitted a covering letter explaining the circumstances with my application, as instructed, and had no issues. Good luck with your application. :)
morgendorffer wrote:
Tue Aug 09, 2022 12:09 pm
Hello.

[…]

I'm a bit nervous about an elongated wait as I wasn't able to get hold of a photocopy of my mum's passport due to estrangement from that whole side of the family. Way back when I first started looking into doing this I called up asking if this would be a problem and was advised to submit an application with a simple covering letter explaining the circumstances. There seems to be conflicting opinions on whether that will be actually acceptable or not on here, but that's what I did anyway.

[…]

That’s great to hear. May I ask how long ago it was you applied and were accepted?

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by Valo » Thu Aug 11, 2022 10:39 am

Stillwater wrote:
Thu Aug 11, 2022 10:35 am
I applied late 2019. For me, it was just under 2.5 years from them sending me confirmation of receiving my documents to receiving the certificate; a lot longer than it would have been, due to Covid, obviously.
Valo wrote:
Thu Aug 11, 2022 9:47 am
Stillwater wrote:
Thu Aug 11, 2022 8:07 am
Hello,

I just thought I would register to give you some reassurance that this was fine for me. I had the same circumstance and contacted them before applying and they told me the same thing. I submitted a covering letter explaining the circumstances with my application, as instructed, and had no issues. Good luck with your application. :)
morgendorffer wrote:
Tue Aug 09, 2022 12:09 pm
Hello.

[…]

I'm a bit nervous about an elongated wait as I wasn't able to get hold of a photocopy of my mum's passport due to estrangement from that whole side of the family. Way back when I first started looking into doing this I called up asking if this would be a problem and was advised to submit an application with a simple covering letter explaining the circumstances. There seems to be conflicting opinions on whether that will be actually acceptable or not on here, but that's what I did anyway.

[…]

That’s great to hear. May I ask how long ago it was you applied and were accepted?
Ah, so a fairly recent approval then. That's great to here. Thank you for popping in and re-assuring us. My documents were received in January of this year so I should hear back in 2024. 8 months down only 20 something to go...

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by morgendorffer » Thu Aug 11, 2022 4:25 pm

Stillwater wrote:
Thu Aug 11, 2022 8:07 am
Hello,

I just thought I would register to give you some reassurance that this was fine for me. I had the same circumstance and contacted them before applying and they told me the same thing. I submitted a covering letter explaining the circumstances with my application, as instructed, and had no issues. Good luck with your application. :)
Thank you!

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by TOM O » Sun Aug 14, 2022 2:54 pm

I was wondering, when my name is in the FBR that would signify that I am a Irish citizen born in another country , correct?
If so could my adult son apply for his Irish citizenship seeing he was born to me?

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by Dalton_Trumbo » Sun Aug 14, 2022 8:10 pm

TOM O wrote:
Sun Aug 14, 2022 2:54 pm
I was wondering, when my name is in the FBR that would signify that I am a Irish citizen born in another country , correct?
If so could my adult son apply for his Irish citizenship seeing he was born to me?
unfortunately, I don't believe it works that way. According to their docs, you have to be on the FBR when your son is born. My son is a teenager at the moment and I was just added to the FBR recently, so he can't apply to the FBR. However, your family is allowed to live with you in the EU. This is what it says on the DFA.ie website:

"... if your parent was an Irish citizen when you were born. You can apply for Irish citizenship through the Foreign Birth Register."

I used to hear things about being able to apply through a great grandparent many years ago, not sure that's still a thing (or ever was), but worth looking into.

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by JohnFBR » Sun Aug 14, 2022 8:24 pm

nasher472000 wrote:
Wed Jan 26, 2022 11:19 am
duffy1867 wrote:
Mon Jan 24, 2022 5:17 pm
nasher472000 wrote:
Mon Jan 24, 2022 10:19 am
Long time lurker, first time poster. This forum has been so helpful, both in terms of answering questions, but in helping me stay sane while waiting as well :)

I finally had contact from the team recently! I'm so excited to see movement on my application, my timeline:

Application: 25/09/2019
Documents received: 07/10/20019
Contact from team requesting further records and confirming address: 10/01/2022
Additional documents sent: 20/01/2022

Hopefully not long to go now!
Just out of interest - as someone who has also been waiting for a long time (not as long as you!) - are you happy to say what the document was in general terms?

I am curious if it was an omission, or they have asked you for something totally new after all this time...

I'm 23 months in - and not very optimistic about hearing much at 24 months :lol:
They wanted my fathers marriage certificate to my mother, and my marriage certificate to my wife.

As I'm claiming through my Father (born outside Ireland to an Irish born parent) and in turn my paternal grandmother (born in Ireland) I'd included my grandmothers marriage certificate to my grandfather which shows the change of name and supports the name on my father birth certificate. As I was claiming through my father and so there's no issue with name change I hadn't thought to include his marriage certificate to my Mum and I didn't think to include my own marriage certificate as I didn't think it was relevant.

They arrived at Balbriggan yesterday, so hoping it won't take too much longer now!

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by JohnFBR » Sun Aug 14, 2022 8:25 pm

Dalton_Trumbo wrote:
Sun Aug 14, 2022 8:10 pm
TOM O wrote:
Sun Aug 14, 2022 2:54 pm
I was wondering, when my name is in the FBR that would signify that I am a Irish citizen born in another country , correct?
If so could my adult son apply for his Irish citizenship seeing he was born to me?
unfortunately, I don't believe it works that way. According to their docs, you have to be on the FBR when your son is born. My son is a teenager at the moment and I was just added to the FBR recently, so he can't apply to the FBR. However, your family is allowed to live with you in the EU. This is what it says on the DFA.ie website:

"... if your parent was an Irish citizen when you were born. You can apply for Irish citizenship through the Foreign Birth Register."

I used to hear things about being able to apply through a great grandparent many years ago, not sure that's still a thing (or ever was), but worth looking into.
You need to be Irish at the time of your child’s birth. That’s why they escalate expected parents so that your FBR is processed before the birth.

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by FrozenTundra » Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:31 pm

TOM O wrote:
Sun Aug 14, 2022 2:54 pm
I was wondering, when my name is in the FBR that would signify that I am a Irish citizen born in another country , correct?
If so could my adult son apply for his Irish citizenship seeing he was born to me?
No, your son would not be eligible for Irish citizenship since your Irish citizenship through FBR is not retroactive to your birth: you are only an Irish citizen from date printed on the FBR certificate onwards. Since your citizenship isn't retroactive, your son was not born to an Irish citizen and thus is ineligible for Irish citizenship by descent.

Fun aside: prior to 1986 Irish citizenship through FBR was indeed retroactive to the applicants birth and thus you used to be able to do what you are asking. You could in theory have multiple generations all apply at once for Irish citizenship through FBR since all of their citizenships would be back dated to their birth.

Another fun aside: my ex-girlfriend was able to obtain Italian citizenship through her great-grandfather. This is because the Italian government granted her father Italian citizenship by descent (through his grandfather) and then my ex-girlfriend was able to apply through her father even though she was an adult when he registered as an Italian citizen. This is because that Italian citizenship was backdated to his birth; Italy backdates all citizenships to birth. This is why you see 5th or 6th generation "Italians" in North and South America who have Italian passports but with no recent ancestor from Italy. Ireland does not do this and is not as generous.

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by Dalton_Trumbo » Mon Aug 15, 2022 12:26 am

FrozenTundra wrote:
Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:31 pm
TOM O wrote:
Sun Aug 14, 2022 2:54 pm
I was wondering, when my name is in the FBR that would signify that I am a Irish citizen born in another country , correct?
If so could my adult son apply for his Irish citizenship seeing he was born to me?
No, your son would not be eligible for Irish citizenship since your Irish citizenship through FBR is not retroactive to your birth: you are only an Irish citizen from date printed on the FBR certificate onwards. Since your citizenship isn't retroactive, your son was not born to an Irish citizen and thus is ineligible for Irish citizenship by descent.

Fun aside: prior to 1986 Irish citizenship through FBR was indeed retroactive to the applicants birth and thus you used to be able to do what you are asking. You could in theory have multiple generations all apply at once for Irish citizenship through FBR since all of their citizenships would be back dated to their birth.

Another fun aside: my ex-girlfriend was able to obtain Italian citizenship through her great-grandfather. This is because the Italian government granted her father Italian citizenship by descent (through his grandfather) and then my ex-girlfriend was able to apply through her father even though she was an adult when he registered as an Italian citizen. This is because that Italian citizenship was backdated to his birth; Italy backdates all citizenships to birth. This is why you see 5th or 6th generation "Italians" in North and South America who have Italian passports but with no recent ancestor from Italy. Ireland does not do this and is not as generous.
Yea, Italy does not put a restriction on how far back your ancestor can be, but you just need to provide the paperwork to prove the descent. I lived in Italy for a number of years, and Italian bureaucracy can be a nightmare, so some people can get their citizenship quickly others get stuck in bureaucratic nightmare that lasts years. In the case of Italy, you'd be smarter to hire an immigration attorney and let them handle it.

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by rubix » Mon Aug 15, 2022 12:43 am

Long time snooper but delighted to have finally received my passport last week. For a long time was unsure it would ever happen what with Covid uncertainty, so thanks to all that contribute on the board. Here is my timeline as reference for those waiting,

FBR application: 20.12.2019
Documents received: 07.01.2020
Confirm address email: 03.03.2022
FBR certificate received: 01.04.2022
Processing Passport: 31.05.2022
Passport arrived: 11.08.2022

Can anyone who has gone through the whole thing remember how long it took to receive the original documents after receiving the passport?

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by TOM O » Mon Aug 15, 2022 9:41 am

thank you all for the relies, I guess I was being hopeful, but my wife is applying for her Italian citizenship along with our daughter and maybe my son in Italy. I will have Italian residency while waiting on my FBR to go through. I received my notice of my FBR application being received on April 21 this year, we will see how long it takes, hopefully the process will speed up over the next months, lol.
will let you know how it goes.

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by wrecking_balloon » Mon Aug 15, 2022 2:45 pm

Does anyone know if they will be able to give you a status on your application if you call the office? I submitted mine August 2020, received my document acceptance email October 2020, so I was curious if I could do this. I've been lurking on this thread for quite some time now and since it's been 2 years I thought I'd ask this community. Thank you!

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by JohnFBR » Mon Aug 15, 2022 3:51 pm

wrecking_balloon wrote:
Mon Aug 15, 2022 2:45 pm
Does anyone know if they will be able to give you a status on your application if you call the office? I submitted mine August 2020, received my document acceptance email October 2020, so I was curious if I could do this. I've been lurking on this thread for quite some time now and since it's been 2 years I thought I'd ask this community. Thank you!
They are only just getting through Feb2020 applications. So calling up won’t give you anymore information

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by JohnFBR » Mon Aug 15, 2022 3:53 pm

TOM O wrote:
Mon Aug 15, 2022 9:41 am
thank you all for the relies, I guess I was being hopeful, but my wife is applying for her Italian citizenship along with our daughter and maybe my son in Italy. I will have Italian residency while waiting on my FBR to go through. I received my notice of my FBR application being received on April 21 this year, we will see how long it takes, hopefully the process will speed up over the next months, lol.
will let you know how it goes.
It’s gonna be a two year wait so it’s best to try and forget it. I found it very hard the last few weeks as I knew it was close.

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by bfs_lawd » Tue Aug 16, 2022 9:21 am

Mr_Knight wrote:
Tue Aug 09, 2022 4:46 pm
Valo wrote:
Tue Aug 09, 2022 1:06 pm
morgendorffer wrote:
Tue Aug 09, 2022 12:56 pm
This article discusses the same issue.
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyl ... itizenship

There are over a hundred replies in the comment section. One in particular that repeats the same success of application to be on the FBR.
I think it would entirely depend on a case by case basis, for people who are estranged from family members I would say they would be more sympathetic as you really don't have any other way to provide the requested ID, however in the case of that particular guardian article the parent was contactable and the parent could provide ID, but a personal family dispute wouldn't really be an excuse not to provide the requested documents especially when you could at least try to resolve it with the party involved and talk them into handing over the ID.

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by bfs_lawd » Tue Aug 16, 2022 9:35 am

JohnL wrote:
Fri Apr 22, 2022 5:35 pm
jgclancy wrote:
Sun Apr 17, 2022 7:04 pm

Once again --my advice is to notarize everything you can & add extra stuff too . More address & ID proof . I even sent a notarized copy of the 1911 Irish Census of my grandfather.

Advice is the same for getting passport-NOTARIZE!....And to answer the most asked question for getting a passport after you complete FBR---YES!...you can send a notarized copy of your passport so you aren't without your passport

Time for a glass of whiskey to celebrate --next up--move to Ireland LOL

Slainte......jgclancy
Congratulations to you, jgclancy - I know it was a long journey and you've helped many along the way.

This is great advice! I wonder if it might be helpful to gather some of these additional documents and send them in after I've sent my initial application package? I have 1901 and 1911 census records for my Grandfather and his family and other original government issued documents for my father, among other things. I've certainly got time to proactively submit an additional doc package and refer to my application number. But I'm afraid without context this might be interpreted as an incomplete application and cast aside. I'd like to do it, but am hesitant. I would have included this in my application package had I known.

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Applied and paid 20/06/21 but documents not mailed until March 2022
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Application Based On: Irish born Grandparent
Applied Date: 20/06/21
Application received Date: 29/03/22
Acknowledgement Date: 08/04/22
Second Letter: Pending
Approval: Pending
Date of Ceremony: Pending
The FBR team will not accept census records as proof of lineage I'm afraid, only a civil birth certificate, or alternatively a baptismal certificate for your grandparent will do the trick but you need to have that put in as a late registration

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by JohnFBR » Tue Aug 16, 2022 10:02 am

JohnFBR wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 3:16 pm
JohnFBR wrote:
Wed Aug 03, 2022 6:21 pm
30 month wait and I missed the call today! 🙈
Hopefully tomorrow 🙏
I got the call!!!

Feb 19th 2020 docs arrived!
4th August - Address check
16th August I got the email to say it’s been processed this morning and to await the next email on when the cert is printed and dispatched.

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