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whiskeypause
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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by whiskeypause » Sun Mar 19, 2023 9:16 am

All now complete.

Online application: 18/1/22
Documents received: 26/1/22
Address confirm: 12/1/23
Congratulations: 9/3/23 - the delay between the 'congratulations' email and the address confirm was because I asked them to hold off sending the certificate for six weeks as I was away.

Certificate received 16/3/23 and passport application just about to be submitted.

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by brianborutoo » Sun Mar 19, 2023 1:47 pm

rìbhinne wrote:
Sat Mar 18, 2023 7:48 pm
brianborutoo wrote:
Sat Mar 18, 2023 1:50 pm
Hey, ribbinne. Thanks for your reply. We may be in the same (or similar) boat. If so, I'd think there'd be many, many more here (more than it appears) with the same issues. If customs (and payment, specifically) is an issue. I'd like to find out WHERE in the chain this might be happening as a means to FIND my package. I mean, is it now in Ireland but in a pile of packages that they don't know what to do with or are waiting for someone to do something with? Or, is it being held at some intermediary point like London? Like I said in my original post, I don't think (at least through the departure airport here in the US, that there are direct commercial (with USPS mail on board per contract) flights from Cincinnati to Dublin. So, it'd have to go somewhere else first, like London.
I asked around and I believe my post clerk entered the information wrong. I can only keep an eye my email now for confirmation and hope it all works out.

In your case, USPS should be able to provide you with information on which agency yours was handed off to. I have an international e-commerce business, I've had a few parcels seemingly disappear once they made it to their European countries. After opening an investigation through USPS.com they were able to tell me which agency they handed over to and then I was able to get it started through them. Every time, it was a customs duty issue.

Wishing you luck - I never though the post would be the most worrisome part of all of this!
Thank you, rìbhinne. I've had an open inquiry for over a week. At one point it was marked "resolved" without it being so (or anyone telling me how they arrived at that status). But it's been reopened and assigned to someone. I'll work the angle that you suggested. It seems to me that is the issue.

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by Ssgogo16 » Sun Mar 19, 2023 5:50 pm

brianborutoo wrote:
Sat Mar 18, 2023 1:46 pm
Ssgogo16 wrote:
Sat Mar 18, 2023 12:48 pm
I requested a replacement FBR back in September of last year for my fathers. We have been waiting since so I called on 02/17 and was informed they aren’t even processing replacement requests. The employee said they’d hope to resume before the end of the year. Additionally, many on this forum never received their replacement requests from even years back. I hope to get the replacement someday so I can send in my own FBR application but man it could be a while. Good luck!
Hey, Ssgogo. That's not good news for anyone who is looking for a replacement FBR certificate. I can understand that they'd prioritize first time applicants--especially given the backlog that they'd had for a few years. It appears they're through that, essentially, so I would think they could turn their attention to the replacement requests now. Presumably (in theory) these are going to be addressed "in date order" of receipt--though we've seen with first time applications that there can be tremendous variability in how different applicants proceed (even with the apparently same application conditions). At any rate, unless my passport documents turn up, I don't see that I have any choice. I will be in Ireland this summer, but I believe that they do NOT deal with people in person. Though, if I'm a citizen, I don't see why I couldn't get the same passport services that a resident citizen would if I'm physically present in country. I've not looked into what in-person services they have. I'm guessing I'm probably sufficiently different as a category of citizen (non-resident at least) that I'd not qualify for any such service.

I’ll say I hope they are back to processing replacements! I’ve been trying to call the FBR line to confirm they have the supporting documents and application in queue. It’s certainly most unfortunate for my father who is unable to renew his passport without the FBR replacement and wants to travel to Europe soon.

Please if you do unfortunately have to go replacement route keep us updated. There’s really very little information anywhere on replacement certificates and what to expect. I wish you the best of luck with usps!

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by brianborutoo » Sun Mar 19, 2023 8:44 pm

Ssgogo16 wrote:
Sun Mar 19, 2023 5:50 pm
I’ll say I hope they are back to processing replacements! I’ve been trying to call the FBR line to confirm they have the supporting documents and application in queue. It’s certainly most unfortunate for my father who is unable to renew his passport without the FBR replacement and wants to travel to Europe soon.

Please if you do unfortunately have to go replacement route keep us updated. There’s really very little information anywhere on replacement certificates and what to expect. I wish you the best of luck with usps!
Hey, Ssgogo16. I should think they'd have to turn to replacements very soon, if they've not already simply b/c they're down to times akin to what they had before Brexit. That said, they may not keep up this pace and who knows what kind of staffing they'll have going forward. At any rate, it is an unfortunate state of affairs for anyone needing the certificate. I wish you and your father well. As for USPS, I'll let folks know ... as well as what I can ascertain regarding the provision of replacement certificates.

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by Ssgogo16 » Mon Mar 20, 2023 10:37 am

brianborutoo wrote:
Sun Mar 19, 2023 8:44 pm
Ssgogo16 wrote:
Sun Mar 19, 2023 5:50 pm
I’ll say I hope they are back to processing replacements! I’ve been trying to call the FBR line to confirm they have the supporting documents and application in queue. It’s certainly most unfortunate for my father who is unable to renew his passport without the FBR replacement and wants to travel to Europe soon.

Please if you do unfortunately have to go replacement route keep us updated. There’s really very little information anywhere on replacement certificates and what to expect. I wish you the best of luck with usps!
Hey, Ssgogo16. I should think they'd have to turn to replacements very soon, if they've not already simply b/c they're down to times akin to what they had before Brexit. That said, they may not keep up this pace and who knows what kind of staffing they'll have going forward. At any rate, it is an unfortunate state of affairs for anyone needing the certificate. I wish you and your father well. As for USPS, I'll let folks know ... as well as what I can ascertain regarding the provision of replacement certificates.

This conversation sparked me to call in today to the line. Replacement certificates are currently estimated to resume printing sometime between August-October of 2023. He did note they will send out email correspondence when that resumes as each replacement application is reviewed.

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by binky62 » Mon Mar 20, 2023 2:43 pm

Hi everyone,

It's been a month and I'm still waiting to see if I'm added to the FBR register.

I wondered if the email will from the person who contacted you regarding the address confirmation. Or is it just an auto-generated / templated email?

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by SPD78 » Mon Mar 20, 2023 3:16 pm

SPD78 wrote:
Fri Feb 17, 2023 5:28 pm
Hi all

Only been on this message a few months but what a great people with great information and have been hooked checking everyday seeing how others applications were going and feeling relieved as the waiting times fell.

My timeline for my application was

14/11/21 application made online
19/4/22 application received (delay in getting all my documents ready)
17/2/23 address confirmation
Congratulations email 12/3/23

Updated
FBR certificate arrived 17/3/23
Certificate was dated 18/2/23

Just sent of the documents for the passport application
Good luck to you all

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by Rxp2023 » Mon Mar 20, 2023 3:27 pm

binky62 wrote:
Mon Mar 20, 2023 2:43 pm
Hi everyone,

It's been a month and I'm still waiting to see if I'm added to the FBR register.

I wondered if the email will from the person who contacted you regarding the address confirmation. Or is it just an auto-generated / templated email?
My confirmation email came from the same person who sent the address check. Might be worth emailing the person who sent your address check email

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by Mr_Knight » Mon Mar 20, 2023 4:45 pm

binky62 wrote:
Mon Mar 20, 2023 2:43 pm
Hi everyone,

It's been a month and I'm still waiting to see if I'm added to the FBR register.

I wondered if the email will from the person who contacted you regarding the address confirmation. Or is it just an auto-generated / templated email?
Mine was a templated email from noreply@dfat.ie stating it was printed and posted. I didnt get any response from the person that emailed me for clarification & for address confirmation.

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by Irishfinallymaybe1 » Mon Mar 20, 2023 6:13 pm

Hi guys,


Found this site really useful when working out how long things could take. Here are my details. I received the approved email today.

Online application: 13/06/22
Documents received: 20/06/22
Address confirm: 10/03/23
Congratulations: 20/03/23 -
Certificate Received: TBD

Great to be Irish. Will have to start looking in to how I apply for the passport after receiving the certificate. I'm hoping it can be done from the UK or go to the embassay.

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by JT97 » Mon Mar 20, 2023 7:06 pm

I'm living in an actual nightmare. It took almost 29 months for my FBR certificate to arrive after application.

Now Royal Mail have LOST my passport application, which contained my birth certificate and my FBR!!

Does anyone know how much it will cost to get a replacement and how long I'll have to wait? Surely it can't be another 2 years as I already have citizenship.

Also, will I be able to get a refund on my passport application, or can I still use the current application when my replacement certificate arrives?

meself2
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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by meself2 » Mon Mar 20, 2023 7:48 pm

JT97 wrote:
Mon Mar 20, 2023 7:06 pm
Now Royal Mail have LOST my passport application, which contained my birth certificate and my FBR!!
Did they say so after investigation or it is just taking time? If the latter, Royal Mail might be very slow, see ireland/lost-documents-by-royal-mail-t335903.html
JT97 wrote:
Mon Mar 20, 2023 7:06 pm
Does anyone know how much it will cost to get a replacement and how long I'll have to wait?
They don't print replacements yet - post2109017.html#p2109017
Ssgogo16 wrote:
Mon Mar 20, 2023 10:37 am
brianborutoo wrote:
Sun Mar 19, 2023 8:44 pm
Ssgogo16 wrote:
Sun Mar 19, 2023 5:50 pm
I’ll say I hope they are back to processing replacements! I’ve been trying to call the FBR line to confirm they have the supporting documents and application in queue. It’s certainly most unfortunate for my father who is unable to renew his passport without the FBR replacement and wants to travel to Europe soon.

Please if you do unfortunately have to go replacement route keep us updated. There’s really very little information anywhere on replacement certificates and what to expect. I wish you the best of luck with usps!
Hey, Ssgogo16. I should think they'd have to turn to replacements very soon, if they've not already simply b/c they're down to times akin to what they had before Brexit. That said, they may not keep up this pace and who knows what kind of staffing they'll have going forward. At any rate, it is an unfortunate state of affairs for anyone needing the certificate. I wish you and your father well. As for USPS, I'll let folks know ... as well as what I can ascertain regarding the provision of replacement certificates.

This conversation sparked me to call in today to the line. Replacement certificates are currently estimated to resume printing sometime between August-October of 2023. He did note they will send out email correspondence when that resumes as each replacement application is reviewed.
Not a qualified immigration adviser. Use links and references given to gain confirmation and/or extra information.

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by Irishfinallymaybe1 » Mon Mar 20, 2023 8:37 pm

JT97 wrote:
Mon Mar 20, 2023 7:06 pm
I'm living in an actual nightmare. It took almost 29 months for my FBR certificate to arrive after application.

Now Royal Mail have LOST my passport application, which contained my birth certificate and my FBR!!

Does anyone know how much it will cost to get a replacement and how long I'll have to wait? Surely it can't be another 2 years as I already have citizenship.

Also, will I be able to get a refund on my passport application, or can I still use the current application when my replacement certificate arrives?
out of interest how did you send your passpor application? Was it via special/tracked delivery? And still lost?

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by rìbhinne » Tue Mar 21, 2023 6:11 am

brianborutoo wrote:
Sun Mar 19, 2023 1:47 pm
Thank you, rìbhinne. I've had an open inquiry for over a week. At one point it was marked "resolved" without it being so (or anyone telling me how they arrived at that status). But it's been reopened and assigned to someone. I'll work the angle that you suggested. It seems to me that is the issue.
I just realised you can use this site to see which agency last had it! https://www.17track.net/en

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by Ssgogo16 » Tue Mar 21, 2023 6:46 am

JT97 wrote:
Mon Mar 20, 2023 7:06 pm
I'm living in an actual nightmare. It took almost 29 months for my FBR certificate to arrive after application.

Now Royal Mail have LOST my passport application, which contained my birth certificate and my FBR!!

Does anyone know how much it will cost to get a replacement and how long I'll have to wait? Surely it can't be another 2 years as I already have citizenship.

Also, will I be able to get a refund on my passport application, or can I still use the current application when my replacement certificate arrives?
You should get a refund on the passport fee if the application isn’t completed in six months, it’s automatic. As for the replacement certificate you can read my threads above. I have been waiting for a replacement certificate since 17th September 2022. I contacted the FBR office yesterday and was told they will resume printing replacements in October of 2023. We have no idea how back logged the replacements are so I may not get mine for months after October and I can’t imagine how long new replacement applications will take. I wish you the best of luck though! It is ridiculously unfortunate that the Royal mail lost your FBR and you are now stuck with this.

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by MikeyMike » Tue Mar 21, 2023 11:16 am

JT97 wrote:
Mon Mar 20, 2023 7:06 pm
I'm living in an actual nightmare. It took almost 29 months for my FBR certificate to arrive after application.

Now Royal Mail have LOST my passport application, which contained my birth certificate and my FBR!!

Does anyone know how much it will cost to get a replacement and how long I'll have to wait? Surely it can't be another 2 years as I already have citizenship.

Also, will I be able to get a refund on my passport application, or can I still use the current application when my replacement certificate arrives?
Are you certain it's lost? Have you tried putting your Royal Mail tracking number in the An Post mail tracker? Have you checked the status of your passport application to see if the documents have been received by the DFA?

https://passporttracking.dfa.ie

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by Irishfinallymaybe1 » Tue Mar 21, 2023 4:52 pm

Hi guys. For the passport application in the UK can I use a solicitor to certify a photocopy of my driving license? I don't want to send my original passport as seen people losing it in royal mai.

Also are there any other decent postal services to get it to Ireland? I was thinking of RM tracked and signd but now not so sure.

TIA

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by Mr_Knight » Tue Mar 21, 2023 5:29 pm

Irishfinallymaybe1 wrote:
Tue Mar 21, 2023 4:52 pm
Hi guys. For the passport application in the UK can I use a solicitor to certify a photocopy of my driving license? I don't want to send my original passport as seen people losing it in royal mai.

Also are there any other decent postal services to get it to Ireland? I was thinking of RM tracked and signd but now not so sure.

TIA
I got The Post Office to certify a copy of my UK Passport, Driving licence & an I.D card all for about 12 quid. I assume it was acceptable since my status changed from 'verifying documents' to 'application is being processed'. And Royal Mail took about 27 days to get a letter from England to Ireland :roll:

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by seemcd » Wed Mar 22, 2023 10:32 am

Is it possible to send a certified copy of the FBR certificate?

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by corky100 » Wed Mar 22, 2023 11:50 am

seemcd wrote:
Wed Mar 22, 2023 10:32 am
Is it possible to send a certified copy of the FBR certificate?
That's a really good question. I don't (in theory) even see the need for certifying as the entry is on the FBR database. They can check their own records :)

In practice however, I don't know. Definitely worth asking though.

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by misscat2 » Wed Mar 22, 2023 11:58 am

Just wanted to give a bit of an update I got the exciting news today that I have been added to the FBR and that my certificate is being posted but there is no tracking number in the email but hopefully I will get this soon

Applied 05/05/2022
documents received 25/05/2022
Address confirmation 28/02/2023
Congratulations email 22/03/2023
Certificate received TBC

thanks for everyone's help, now I'm off to apply for a passport

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by corky100 » Wed Mar 22, 2023 9:39 pm

corky100 wrote:
Wed Mar 22, 2023 11:50 am
seemcd wrote:
Wed Mar 22, 2023 10:32 am
Is it possible to send a certified copy of the FBR certificate?
That's a really good question. I don't (in theory) even see the need for certifying as the entry is on the FBR database. They can check their own records :)

In practice however, I don't know. Definitely worth asking though.
Seems not......

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by corky100 » Wed Mar 22, 2023 10:07 pm

corky100 wrote:
Wed Mar 22, 2023 9:39 pm
corky100 wrote:
Wed Mar 22, 2023 11:50 am
seemcd wrote:
Wed Mar 22, 2023 10:32 am
Is it possible to send a certified copy of the FBR certificate?
That's a really good question. I don't (in theory) even see the need for certifying as the entry is on the FBR database. They can check their own records :)

In practice however, I don't know. Definitely worth asking though.
Seems not......

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Well, apologies to the "identified person", who is publicly screaming about it on social media and contacting various media organisations. In short, the answer is, they want the original. So don’t waste your time going down that route.

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by Laurie9434 » Wed Mar 22, 2023 10:55 pm

MikeyMike wrote:
Tue Mar 21, 2023 11:16 am
JT97 wrote:
Mon Mar 20, 2023 7:06 pm
I'm living in an actual nightmare. It took almost 29 months for my FBR certificate to arrive after application.

Now Royal Mail have LOST my passport application, which contained my birth certificate and my FBR!!

Does anyone know how much it will cost to get a replacement and how long I'll have to wait? Surely it can't be another 2 years as I already have citizenship.

Also, will I be able to get a refund on my passport application, or can I still use the current application when my replacement certificate arrives?
Are you certain it's lost? Have you tried putting your Royal Mail tracking number in the An Post mail tracker? Have you checked the status of your passport application to see if the documents have been received by the DFA?

https://passporttracking.dfa.ie
I am hoping it’s just “misplaced”. That’s horrible! I am so sorry!

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Re: Foreign Birth Registration

Post by Laurie9434 » Wed Mar 22, 2023 11:10 pm

misscat2 wrote:
Wed Mar 22, 2023 11:58 am
Just wanted to give a bit of an update I got the exciting news today that I have been added to the FBR and that my certificate is being posted but there is no tracking number in the email but hopefully I will get this soon

YAY!! Congratulations!! Mine took a full year BEFORE the pandemic! This was the message they sent when my documents were in the post

“Laurie

Your cert is in the post

Regards

Clerical Officer”

I can’t say they are still doing that, but, after I got that I received the return of my packet of docs really fast.. I was surprised by it, actually. And you’ll need some of those for your passport. I submitted my online passport on 1/23/2023. Then sent the necessary documents, which on the passport tracking site told me they got them. My potential passport date was today March 22, 2023. So 2 months from the initial application (with extra paperwork, FBR etc.). Now, I await the mail. Be sure to follow all the directions. It wasn’t very hard. On a ridiculous note… I submitted my US Passport online for RENEWAL the same day. Jan. 23 2023. It STILL says “in process” 2 months later and I paid for it to be EXPEDITED (5-7 weeks). If my Irish passport arrives before my US renewal… I will laugh hysterically. And then demand my expedited money back!!! Hope you documents arrive soon!!! Congratulations!!

Applied 05/05/2022
documents received 25/05/2022
Address confirmation 28/02/2023
Congratulations email 22/03/2023
Certificate received TBC

thanks for everyone's help, now I'm off to apply for a passport

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