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onebatmother
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Grandparent born in Ireland, parent not registered and now lacks capacity

Post by onebatmother » Sat Jan 30, 2021 7:37 pm

Hello there
Does anyone have any knowledge or experience of this?
Both grandparents born in Ireland
Father born in UK, birth not registered in Foreign Register, Citizenship not applied for
Father now lacks capacity (Alzheimer's), I have Lasting Power of Attorney

I have his birth certificate and birth certificates for both grandparents

Thanks in advance if you can shed any light at all!

littlerr
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Re: Grandparent born in Ireland, parent not registered and now lacks capacity

Post by littlerr » Sun Jan 31, 2021 2:49 am

What do you want to know? Your father is an Irish citizen by birth, and you are eligible for FBR via either your grandparents or your father. You have your birth certificate, your father’s birth certificate and your grandparents’ birth certificates, so what’s the issue?

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Re: Grandparent born in Ireland, parent not registered and now lacks capacity

Post by V3rvangen » Sun Jan 31, 2021 2:11 pm

onebatmother wrote:
Sat Jan 30, 2021 7:37 pm
Hello there
Does anyone have any knowledge or experience of this?
Both grandparents born in Ireland
Father born in UK, birth not registered in Foreign Register, Citizenship not applied for
Father now lacks capacity (Alzheimer's), I have Lasting Power of Attorney

I have his birth certificate and birth certificates for both grandparents

Thanks in advance if you can shed any light at all!
Yeah as the other poster said, your father does not need to be registered on the FBR, as he was an Irish citizen from birth through his Irish born parents. You are applying for citizenship through his citizenship, if that makes sense. Also, sorry to hear about your father's health issues, Alzheimers is an awful thing.

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Re: Grandparent born in Ireland, parent not registered and now lacks capacity

Post by onebatmother » Sun Jan 31, 2021 2:20 pm

Thanks both very much - I had thought that in order to *claim* his Irish citizenship, my father would have to be registered on the FBR.

That's good news then - and thanks @V3rvangen, it is indeed a terrible thing.

onebatmother
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Re: Grandparent born in Ireland, parent not registered and now lacks capacity

Post by onebatmother » Sun Jan 31, 2021 2:27 pm

And actually, I'm still worried because this page says:

Other documents that may be needed:

If your parent became an Irish citizen through: The Foreign Births Register
Document Needed: Original Foreign Birth Registration Certificate

Which seems to imply that he needed to be registered and I need to include the certificate.

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Re: Grandparent born in Ireland, parent not registered and now lacks capacity

Post by Shakey » Sun Jan 31, 2021 5:18 pm

onebatmother wrote:
Sun Jan 31, 2021 2:27 pm
And actually, I'm still worried because this page says:

Other documents that may be needed:

If your parent became an Irish citizen through: The Foreign Births Register
Document Needed: Original Foreign Birth Registration Certificate

Which seems to imply that he needed to be registered and I need to include the certificate.
Your father is Irish. He was Irish from the day he was born. He doesn't need a FBR certificate.

You on the other hand are not and need to apply through FBR. The day you are granted the certificate you will become Irish.

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Re: Grandparent born in Ireland, parent not registered and now lacks capacity

Post by DanaMarie » Sun Jan 31, 2021 5:46 pm

onebatmother wrote:
Sun Jan 31, 2021 2:27 pm
And actually, I'm still worried because this page says:

Other documents that may be needed:

If your parent became an Irish citizen through: The Foreign Births Register
Document Needed: Original Foreign Birth Registration Certificate

Which seems to imply that he needed to be registered and I need to include the certificate.
The key there is in the phrase "if your parent became an Irish citizen through FBR". Your parent did not. Your parent was a citizen when he was born to Irish parents who were born on the island of Ireland. If you are still feeling unconvinced, check here - https://www.irishimmigration.ie/citizen ... r-descent/

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