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Blessings123
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Birth certificate verification

Post by Blessings123 » Sat Jul 18, 2020 3:43 pm

For first time passport applicants. Does the passport office always verify birth certificate. I got an email saying that delay in passport application is due to birth certificate verification from Pakistan. I am not sure if they do that with all. Anyone else has the similar experience?

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Re: Birth certificate verification

Post by littlerr » Sat Jul 18, 2020 7:01 pm

I don’t believe my birth certificate (from China) was validated. It took them only a day or two to carry out all checks and approve the application. I would imagine that such checks might take weeks at least.

I submitted the original certificate, a notarised copy of both Chinese and English versions of the certificate.

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Pakistani Birth Cert Verification

Post by Blessings123 » Tue Aug 18, 2020 1:55 am

Dear All,
My passport application has been stuck in same stage for a while now. I was wondering if anyone else has the same issue. I applied for passport in MARCH, right after I got naturalisation. As we know the passport officer was closes earlier due to COVID, but since it has been reopened my application continues to be precess. I did however got an email that they have send my passport for certification by Pakistani authorities but that was also on 20th July and no update since. So my question is

1- Do they send all birth certificates for verification? Is there anything I can do to help speed up the process.Did anyone else has a similar experience? My birth cert was NADRA issues from Pakistan

2- In total it has been 5 months since I applied. At this stage I am not even sure what can I do. Every-time I contact them I get the same response that application is in process etc.

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Re: Pakistani Birth Cert Verification

Post by bluesky1 » Tue Aug 18, 2020 8:27 am

Hi. I am in similar situation. I applied on 3rd March and still awaiting processing. If the delay is from Pakistani authorities we should try to raise this issue with our embassy here. I know a lot many Pakistani who have applied same time and already got there passport lomg ago so Im not sure where exactly is the delay.

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Re: Pakistani Birth Cert Verification

Post by Chap1122 » Tue Aug 18, 2020 10:58 am

Can't be true.
Every birth cert issued from Pakistan has a link unique to that cert and can be validated on a single click.
You may find your one on the right bottom .

They are just excuses 😂

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Re: Pakistani Birth Cert Verification

Post by Taki » Tue Aug 18, 2020 11:55 am

I am also in the same situation, I applied on 3rd March 2020 and they sent me an email on 17th July, 2020 that "I wish to advise you there is a delay in processing your application, as the passport service verifies your birth certificate with the authorities in Pakistan." Although my birth cert. is a computerized and issued by NADRA authorities in both languages Urdu and English. A few days before I contacted them via web chat and they told me if they could not complete my complication within six month they return me fee and I can reapply for free. They also suggest me it is better for me to reapply when covid-19 will over.
INIS took years to finials our naturalization applications in the name of verification of documents, and passport office also going to punish some Pakistanis if not all, just for being a Pakistani. I don't know what we can do in this situation?

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Re: Pakistani Birth Cert Verification

Post by Blessings123 » Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:17 pm

bluesky1 wrote:
Tue Aug 18, 2020 8:27 am
Hi. I am in similar situation. I applied on 3rd March and still awaiting processing. If the delay is from Pakistani authorities we should try to raise this issue with our embassy here. I know a lot many Pakistani who have applied same time and already got there passport lomg ago so Im not sure where exactly is the delay.
Hey. Exactly. I am not sure if they pick up random applications for verification. Because I know many Pakistani who applied after me and got the passport. I wonder if there is anything we can do to speed it up?

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Re: Pakistani Birth Cert Verification

Post by Blessings123 » Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:21 pm

Taki wrote:
Tue Aug 18, 2020 11:55 am
I am also in the same situation, I applied on 3rd March 2020 and they sent me an email on 17th July, 2020 that "I wish to advise you there is a delay in processing your application, as the passport service verifies your birth certificate with the authorities in Pakistan." Although my birth cert. is a computerized and issued by NADRA authorities in both languages Urdu and English. A few days before I contacted them via web chat and they told me if they could not complete my complication within six month they return me fee and I can reapply for free. They also suggest me it is better for me to reapply when covid-19 will over.
INIS took years to finials our naturalization applications in the name of verification of documents, and passport office also going to punish some Pakistanis if not all, just for being a Pakistani. I don't know what we can do in this situation?
Same. I got the email on 20july. No further update since. I asked them couple of time where have they sent them for verification so that I may check with them department directly but no clarification.
I’d be very upset if they ask us to reapply. What do they expect, reapply again and wait for weeks while they verify the stuff. I am not sure what to do either in this scanerio.

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Re: Pakistani Birth Cert Verification

Post by bluesky1 » Tue Aug 18, 2020 8:54 pm

I dont think they will ask us to reapply since the office was closed for quite some time during Covid. We could try to contact our embassy to ask if they are getting these verification request but again I dont expect there would be much help from them too. I agree a lot of people have got there passports qlready who applied at same time or even after makes me wonder whats wrong with ours. I believe they would have verified the birth certificate n passport for naturalization since its taking more than 2 years atleast for Pakistani applicants. I am going to lodge a complain on Pakistan Citizen Portal app as well. Its just getting frustrated now.

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Re: Pakistani Birth Cert Verification

Post by Granista » Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:33 am

Chap1122 wrote:
Tue Aug 18, 2020 10:58 am
Can't be true.
Every birth cert issued from Pakistan has a link unique to that cert and can be validated on a single click.
You may find your one on the right bottom .

They are just excuses 😂
This is not even slightly true.

Taki
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Re: Pakistani Birth Cert Verification

Post by Taki » Wed Aug 19, 2020 12:21 pm

Chap1122 wrote:
Tue Aug 18, 2020 10:58 am
Can't be true.
Every birth cert issued from Pakistan has a link unique to that cert and can be validated on a single click.
You may find your one on the right bottom .

They are just excuses 😂
What is "link unique and how can we find this, nothing such things on right bottom"

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Re: Pakistani Birth Cert Verification

Post by Taki » Wed Aug 19, 2020 12:47 pm

I have a question if someone know the answer it would be appreciated.Can we travel outside country with Pakistani Passport except Pakistan and Can we enter again in Ireland with just Pakistani passport and Naturalization Certificate?
I know we can go Pakistan with Pakistani Passport but don't know how can we come back to Ireland although technically we are naturalized Irish citizens too now because we have naturalization certificate?
and
for example if I want to go England do we still need a valid visa for UK and re-entry visa for Ireland which is already abolished by Irish Immigration?

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Re: Pakistani Birth Cert Verification

Post by CR001 » Wed Aug 19, 2020 12:51 pm

Taki wrote:
Wed Aug 19, 2020 12:47 pm
I have a question if someone know the answer it would be appreciated.Can we travel outside country with Pakistani Passport except Pakistan and Can we enter again in Ireland with just Pakistani passport and Naturalization Certificate?
I know we can go Pakistan with Pakistani Passport but don't know how can we come back to Ireland although technically we are naturalized Irish citizens too now because we have naturalization certificate?
and
for example if I want to go England do we still need a valid visa for UK and re-entry visa for Ireland which is already abolished by Irish Immigration?
If you do not have an Irish passport, you need a visa to enter the UK and a evidence of your Irish stamp to board a plane from Pakistan. A naturalisation certificate is not a travel document.
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Re: Pakistani Birth Cert Verification

Post by Chap1122 » Wed Aug 19, 2020 7:16 pm

Unfortunately don't know how to add a screenshot of my birth certificate which I had from last year.

But it clearly has a link and barcode on the right bottom corner.

You may have one from few years ago may be?
Anyways whatever you say is right and I accept to wrong for you

Can't be true.
Every birth cert issued from Pakistan has a link unique to that cert and can be validated on a single click.
You may find your one on the right bottom .

They are just excuses 😂
[/quote]

What is "link unique and how can we find this, nothing such things on right bottom"
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Re: Pakistani Birth Cert Verification

Post by post » Thu Aug 20, 2020 5:00 am

Taki wrote:
Tue Aug 18, 2020 11:55 am
... INIS took years to finials our naturalization applications in the name of verification of documents, ...
Do they also verify your birth certificate with the authorities in the issuing country during your naturalization application?

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Re: Pakistani Birth Cert Verification

Post by Blessings123 » Thu Aug 20, 2020 11:25 pm

Taki wrote:
Tue Aug 18, 2020 11:55 am
I am also in the same situation, I applied on 3rd March 2020 and they sent me an email on 17th July, 2020 that "I wish to advise you there is a delay in processing your application, as the passport service verifies your birth certificate with the authorities in Pakistan." Although my birth cert. is a computerized and issued by NADRA authorities in both languages Urdu and English. A few days before I contacted them via web chat and they told me if they could not complete my complication within six month they return me fee and I can reapply for free. They also suggest me it is better for me to reapply when covid-19 will over.
INIS took years to finials our naturalization applications in the name of verification of documents, and passport office also going to punish some Pakistanis if not all, just for being a Pakistani. I don't know what we can do in this situation?
Any update? Have you done anything since the last time you posted? It’s so so frustrating. Seem like no end to this traumatising wait. Don’t know what will happen

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Re: Pakistani Birth Cert Verification

Post by Blessings123 » Thu Aug 20, 2020 11:26 pm

post wrote:
Thu Aug 20, 2020 5:00 am
Taki wrote:
Tue Aug 18, 2020 11:55 am
... INIS took years to finials our naturalization applications in the name of verification of documents, ...
Do they also verify your birth certificate with the authorities in the issuing country during your naturalization application?
I don’t know. I had thought so but then why the passport office needs to reverify it

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Re: Pakistani Birth Cert Verification

Post by Blessings123 » Thu Aug 20, 2020 11:27 pm

bluesky1 wrote:
Tue Aug 18, 2020 8:54 pm
I dont think they will ask us to reapply since the office was closed for quite some time during Covid. We could try to contact our embassy to ask if they are getting these verification request but again I dont expect there would be much help from them too. I agree a lot of people have got there passports qlready who applied at same time or even after makes me wonder whats wrong with ours. I believe they would have verified the birth certificate n passport for naturalization since its taking more than 2 years atleast for Pakistani applicants. I am going to lodge a complain on Pakistan Citizen Portal app as well. Its just getting frustrated now.
Any update bro? How long have you been waiting for? Need suggestion as to what next step we should take. I am just worried that soon it is going to be 6 months and what if they cancel the application

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Re: Pakistani Birth Cert Verification

Post by bluesky1 » Fri Aug 21, 2020 12:24 am

No update for me they r like a wall of solid stones no information what so ever. Atleast they sent u an email stating where the delay is my file is probably buried 6 feet underground coz I had no communication from the team or person looking after my application.
They can not return our application after 6 months coz they will have to exclude the time period the office was closed. I cant understand the fact that how did most people got there passports in reasonable time and few r waiting for such long time. Someone has told me to go public onair on this only than they might listen to us.

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Re: Pakistani Birth Cert Verification

Post by Taki » Mon Aug 24, 2020 3:20 pm

Any update regarding Pakistani birth certificate verification or anyone receive passport or otherwise any information.

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