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It is my understanding that non-visa nationals do not require either health insurance or proof of finances as per the section A. of that web page you referred to. Most non-visa nationals I'm aware of didn't require their birth certs either. Just marriage, address, and passport. I'd be interested to know if there's a small application form you need to fill in on the day (it seems to be up to the officer/location) so I'd appreciate your feedback on that. Good luck!
The only difference between a 4 and 4eufam is visa free travel around europe which as australian this person already has and has it without the eu citizen being present.littlerr wrote: ↑Mon Jul 05, 2021 12:59 amProof of finances may also be required for initial registration. You should have documentary proofs such as your husband's P60 or salary slips etc.
See section 17 of the family reunification document.
http://www.inis.gov.ie/en/INIS/Family%2 ... cument.pdf
It sounds like that you are going with domestic registration (Stamp 4) rather than applying for EU Treaty Rights (Stamp 4EUFAM). Any reason for that? You said your husband is Irish and has been living in the UK for 2 years before moving to Ireland. Has he been exercising EU Treaty Rights? If yes, has this been mentioned to the immigration control when you come to Ireland? Using EU Treaty Rights gives you much more flexibility and rights than what a typical Irish citizen spouse under domestic immigration laws would be entitled to.
(E.g. Stamp 4EUFAM holders can travel outside of Ireland for 6 months during a 12 month period, while Stamp 4 holders can only travel for 3 months; Stamp 4EUFAM holders get independent permanent residence rights after living in Ireland for 5 years, while there is no such comparable rights for Stamp 4 holders etc.)
Incorrect. They are governed by different laws - Stamp 4 is under domestic laws, and Stamp 4EUFAM is under EU Treaty Rights. Stamp 4EUFAM offers MUCH more rights than Stamp 4 does. For example, permanent residency is an important difference. 4EUFAM holders can live in Ireland permanently after 5 years even if they lose their jobs, use benefits etc. Stamp 4 holders do not have this. The only thing comparable would be Stamp 5 which has to be renewed on merits of good behaviour and ability to independently support themselves. The ability to be independently living in the state rather than having to rely on the relationship with the EU national after 5 years is another. If the relationship breaks down at some point in future, Stamp 4EUFAM holders do not need to worry about anything about their immigration status.
Incorrect. Stamp 4EUFAM requires a person to be an ordinary resident in the hosting country. That is the only requirement for the non-EU spouse. Staying out of Ireland for out of 180 days a year is perfectly fine. Where does this 'risk' come from?
Everything I have said is under the legal wording of EU Treaty Rights. It's not that difficult to do a google. It has also been explicitly confirmed by INIS if you search my previous comments in the forum.
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Generally, a residency permit holder is permitted to remain outside the State no more than 90 days consecutively without negative impact on their residency status.
Specific exceptions would take precedence over this, the IIP is an example of such. Permission under EU Treaty Rights in another exception where a person may remain outside the State for up to 180 days.