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Stamp 4 to Stamp 1 - Broke up with partner/WorkPermit

Post by LMO » Mon Sep 02, 2019 2:10 pm

Hello, i am in a very similar situation at the moment, i held a stamp 4 and after my break up i wasnt able to renew my stamp 4 but my job sponsored me, once we applied for the work permit they told me i needed to change my status from stamp 4 to stamp 1 so we sent all my documentation to UNIT 2 Dept. of Justice. I went to immigration offices and they told i could work while i was waiting for my response which i am still doing but i haven't found something on their page that says i can do it. The only thing i found on the page is, on the section of "change of status" says "from stamp 4 to stamp 1 is not applicable" and i am confused now. I havent got the answer from immigration yet but i wanted to ask you if this is what you did in the first place or something similar?

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Stamp 4 to Stamp 1 - Broke up with partner/WorkPermit

Post by finalversion_2k » Mon Sep 02, 2019 2:46 pm

LMO wrote:
Mon Sep 02, 2019 2:10 pm
Hello, i am in a very similar situation at the moment, i held a stamp 4 and after my break up i wasnt able to renew my stamp 4 but my job sponsored me, once we applied for the work permit they told me i needed to change my status from stamp 4 to stamp 1 so we sent all my documentation to UNIT 2 Dept. of Justice. I went to immigration offices and they told i could work while i was waiting for my response which i am still doing but i haven't found something on their page that says i can do it. The only thing i found on the page is, on the section of "change of status" says "from stamp 4 to stamp 1 is not applicable" and i am confused now. I havent got the answer from immigration yet but i wanted to ask you if this is what you did in the first place or something similar?

@LMO : its little confusing, after your brake-up you should inform to Dept and apply for retention of right EU5.. I was in similar situation in 2017 End, and reach out to many solicitors and Email inquiries to different departments including EUtreaty.. final response what I got was apply for Retention of rights you can't change stamp4EUFAM to stamp1.. so I applied and now waiting for almost an year..

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Stamp 4 to Stamp 1 - Broke up with partner/WorkPermit

Post by LMO » Mon Sep 02, 2019 3:11 pm

Can i apply to the EU5 form if my visa is already expired? also i did not get married it was with the defacto partnership

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Re: Stamp 4 to Stamp 1 - Broke up with partner/WorkPermit

Post by Ramsz » Mon Sep 02, 2019 4:27 pm

LMO wrote:
Mon Sep 02, 2019 2:10 pm
Hello, i am in a very similar situation at the moment, i held a stamp 4 and after my break up i wasnt able to renew my stamp 4 but my job sponsored me, once we applied for the work permit they told me i needed to change my status from stamp 4 to stamp 1 so we sent all my documentation to UNIT 2 Dept. of Justice. I went to immigration offices and they told i could work while i was waiting for my response which i am still doing but i haven't found something on their page that says i can do it. The only thing i found on the page is, on the section of "change of status" says "from stamp 4 to stamp 1 is not applicable" and i am confused now. I havent got the answer from immigration yet but i wanted to ask you if this is what you did in the first place or something similar?


But you are still working now ?

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Re: Stamp 4 to Stamp 1 - Broke up with partner/WorkPermit

Post by LMO » Mon Sep 02, 2019 4:55 pm

I am, i am not sure if I am able to do it, when i went to INIS they told me i could, to me and my boss because i was under an application, so yes i'm still working while i'm waiting for the answer.

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Re: Stamp 4 to Stamp 1 - Broke up with partner/WorkPermit

Post by Ramsz » Mon Sep 02, 2019 7:33 pm

LMO wrote:
Mon Sep 02, 2019 4:55 pm
I am, i am not sure if I am able to do it, when i went to INIS they told me i could, to me and my boss because i was under an application, so yes i'm still working while i'm waiting for the answer.
I think is a good sign and how long is your application now?

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Post by LMO » Tue Sep 03, 2019 12:28 pm

Ramsz wrote:
Mon Sep 02, 2019 7:33 pm
LMO wrote:
Mon Sep 02, 2019 4:55 pm
I am, i am not sure if I am able to do it, when i went to INIS they told me i could, to me and my boss because i was under an application, so yes i'm still working while i'm waiting for the answer.
I think is a good sign and how long is your application now?
3 months, but I’m just waiting for the stamp 1, the letter I got from work permit says “if you successfully get the permission to remain in the state on your own (stamp 1) then you can try again and apply for work permit” I showed that to INIS and they told me they couldn’t change that there I needed to send my documentation to UNIT 2 Dept. and they will change that for me with no problem but they didn’t say anything about the change of status from stamp 4 to stamp 1 wasn’t applicable and the INIS web page says that so im not sure if what they’re saying it’s totally correct and at this point I don’t know what else to do, I’m not sure that in case they say no would be possible if I can leave the country and come back with masters and get a stamp 2 as student. They don’t seem to have much information in the offices neither the page.

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Re: Stamp 4 to Stamp 1 - Broke up with partner/WorkPermit

Post by finalversion_2k » Tue Sep 03, 2019 12:58 pm

LMO wrote:
Tue Sep 03, 2019 12:28 pm
Ramsz wrote:
Mon Sep 02, 2019 7:33 pm
LMO wrote:
Mon Sep 02, 2019 4:55 pm
I am, i am not sure if I am able to do it, when i went to INIS they told me i could, to me and my boss because i was under an application, so yes i'm still working while i'm waiting for the answer.
I think is a good sign and how long is your application now?
3 months, but I’m just waiting for the stamp 1, the letter I got from work permit says “if you successfully get the permission to remain in the state on your own (stamp 1) then you can try again and apply for work permit” I showed that to INIS and they told me they couldn’t change that there I needed to send my documentation to UNIT 2 Dept. and they will change that for me with no problem but they didn’t say anything about the change of status from stamp 4 to stamp 1 wasn’t applicable and the INIS web page says that so im not sure if what they’re saying it’s totally correct and at this point I don’t know what else to do, I’m not sure that in case they say no would be possible if I can leave the country and come back with masters and get a stamp 2 as student. They don’t seem to have much information in the offices neither the page.
@LMO: let me be honest with you, its not that easy.. as I said I try all these things almost 2 years ago. went to 4 to 5 different solicitors. its clearly mentioned on the INIS website you can't move from Stamp4 to Stamp1.. also written on DBEI website that first take permission from department of justice... department of justice will say you to apply retention so permissions transfers on your ownself, which is retention of rights EU5 form..

I don't know about de facto, they also do retention or not,, that's why i didn't reply on your post.. I also don't want to demotivate you, if you got Stamp1 I'll love to hear from you, and this will help everyone else as well.. :)

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Re: Stamp 4 to Stamp 1 - Broke up with partner/WorkPermit

Post by LMO » Tue Sep 03, 2019 4:05 pm

finalversion_2k wrote:
Tue Sep 03, 2019 12:58 pm
LMO wrote:
Tue Sep 03, 2019 12:28 pm
Ramsz wrote:
Mon Sep 02, 2019 7:33 pm
LMO wrote:
Mon Sep 02, 2019 4:55 pm
I am, i am not sure if I am able to do it, when i went to INIS they told me i could, to me and my boss because i was under an application, so yes i'm still working while i'm waiting for the answer.
I think is a good sign and how long is your application now?
3 months, but I’m just waiting for the stamp 1, the letter I got from work permit says “if you successfully get the permission to remain in the state on your own (stamp 1) then you can try again and apply for work permit” I showed that to INIS and they told me they couldn’t change that there I needed to send my documentation to UNIT 2 Dept. and they will change that for me with no problem but they didn’t say anything about the change of status from stamp 4 to stamp 1 wasn’t applicable and the INIS web page says that so im not sure if what they’re saying it’s totally correct and at this point I don’t know what else to do, I’m not sure that in case they say no would be possible if I can leave the country and come back with masters and get a stamp 2 as student. They don’t seem to have much information in the offices neither the page.
@LMO: let me be honest with you, its not that easy.. as I said I try all these things almost 2 years ago. went to 4 to 5 different solicitors. its clearly mentioned on the INIS website you can't move from Stamp4 to Stamp1.. also written on DBEI website that first take permission from department of justice... department of justice will say you to apply retention so permissions transfers on your ownself, which is retention of rights EU5 form..

I don't know about de facto, they also do retention or not,, that's why i didn't reply on your post.. I also don't want to demotivate you, if you got Stamp1 I'll love to hear from you, and this will help everyone else as well.. :)
Thank you! Hopefully I can get some good news or a least a way to remain in the state!

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Post by Mouldiben » Tue Sep 03, 2019 7:54 pm

Hi. Thanks for sharing your story with us. Please keep us posted. Quick question did you inform them when your broke up with your partner? Or did you waited for your stamp to expire? Can you share more details about the dates? Thanks

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Re: Stamp 4 to Stamp 1 - Broke up with partner/WorkPermit

Post by Mouldiben » Fri Oct 04, 2019 10:51 am

Hi LMO. Did you receive any news?

I submitted my documents 2 months ago and still no response. :(

Thanks
LMO wrote:
Mon Sep 02, 2019 4:55 pm
I am, i am not sure if I am able to do it, when i went to INIS they told me i could, to me and my boss because i was under an application, so yes i'm still working while i'm waiting for the answer.

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Re: Stamp 4 to Stamp 1 - Broke up with partner/WorkPermit

Post by Ramsz » Fri Oct 04, 2019 1:12 pm

Mouldiben wrote:
Fri Oct 04, 2019 10:51 am
Hi LMO. Did you receive any news?

I submitted my documents 2 months ago and still no response. :(

Thanks
LMO wrote:
Mon Sep 02, 2019 4:55 pm
I am, i am not sure if I am able to do it, when i went to INIS they told me i could, to me and my boss because i was under an application, so yes i'm still working while i'm waiting for the answer.
Why you did not apply for Eu5 first and get the 1year processing application time ...then if they refuse you go for review another 1year before you now apply for work permit ...

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Post by Mouldiben » Fri Oct 04, 2019 3:58 pm

Because the company that I work for applied on my behalf for a work permit one week before my stamp 4 eufam expires. The damage is done now and I need a response from them even negative so I can go back home and apply for work permit.

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Re: Stamp 4 to Stamp 1 - Broke up with partner/WorkPermit

Post by Ramsz » Fri Oct 04, 2019 5:14 pm

Mouldiben wrote:
Fri Oct 04, 2019 3:58 pm
Because the company that I work for applied on my behalf for a work permit one week before my stamp 4 eufam expires. The damage is done now and I need a response from them even negative so I can go back home and apply for work permit.
Apply for Eu5 straight up man they will give you stamp for 8 month work permit and euf5 are different department you have noting to lose someone I know did same thing they give him stamp for eu5 for the processing of the application

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Post by Mouldiben » Fri Oct 04, 2019 6:35 pm

Do you know one I apply for EU5 how long it will take till they give me a stamp? Thanks

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Re: Stamp 4 to Stamp 1 - Broke up with partner/WorkPermit

Post by Ramsz » Sun Oct 06, 2019 9:15 am

Mouldiben wrote:
Fri Oct 04, 2019 6:35 pm
Do you know one I apply for EU5 how long it will take till they give me a stamp? Thanks
4 to 6 weeks you should get it...

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Re: Stamp 4 to Stamp 1 - Broke up with partner/WorkPermit

Post by Mouldi » Sun Oct 06, 2019 3:51 pm

I Lost my job last week because my stamp 4eufam expired and no answer from the EU tr. If I apply for EU5 will they give me a stamp that allows me to work. My company is happy to take me back if I manage to get a stamp. Thank you so much for responding to all my questions. :cry:

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Post by Ramsz » Mon Oct 07, 2019 4:53 pm

Mouldi wrote:
Sun Oct 06, 2019 3:51 pm
I Lost my job last week because my stamp 4eufam expired and no answer from the EU tr. If I apply for EU5 will they give me a stamp that allows me to work. My company is happy to take me back if I manage to get a stamp. Thank you so much for responding to all my questions. :cry:
What do you apply for with EU tr you 're waiting on ?

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Re: Stamp 4 to Stamp 1 - Broke up with partner/WorkPermit

Post by Mouldiben » Tue Oct 08, 2019 8:02 am

My company lawyers contacted them to let them know that because my stamp 4eufam expired and because my wife is not living in Ireland I needed a stamp 1. They sent me a letter asking for documents for the last 5 years because the lawyer mentioned the change in my situation. I provided all the documents except for the last 2 years since my wife wasn't here. They sent me a letter to acknowledge the receipt and I am still waiting

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Re: Stamp 4 to Stamp 1 - Broke up with partner/WorkPermit

Post by Ramsz » Wed Oct 09, 2019 5:05 pm

Mouldiben wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2019 8:02 am
My company lawyers contacted them to let them know that because my stamp 4eufam expired and because my wife is not living in Ireland I needed a stamp 1. They sent me a letter asking for documents for the last 5 years because the lawyer mentioned the change in my situation. I provided all the documents except for the last 2 years since my wife wasn't here. They sent me a letter to acknowledge the receipt and I am still waiting

I would suggest apply eu5 on your own ...

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