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Re: Upcoming Ceremony in 2023

Post by jesonnn » Sun Feb 26, 2023 1:44 am

meself2 wrote: Might be confined to Dublin-based applicants only as it's in RDS, but that's just a theory.
Thought about that but it breaks by the fact people got that email far from Dublin, in west side for example

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Re: Upcoming Ceremony in 2023

Post by Nala2021 » Sun Feb 26, 2023 8:20 am

I think that the situation is straightforward.

If anybody, regardless of whether s/he received this email invitation for the 10th March 2023 ceremony, believes that this email / invitation is not valid then s/he has the choice to contact directly the Department of Justice and ask.

I do not believe that speculating about how often and why INIS updates its websites, or which procedures they decide to try or follow each time is helpful.

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Re: Upcoming Ceremony in 2023

Post by mentalmind » Sun Feb 26, 2023 7:33 pm

Nala2021 wrote:
Sun Feb 26, 2023 8:20 am
I think that the situation is straightforward.

If anybody, regardless of whether s/he received this email invitation for the 10th March 2023 ceremony, believes that this email / invitation is not valid then s/he has the choice to contact directly the Department of Justice and ask.

I do not believe that speculating about how often and why INIS updates its websites, or which procedures they decide to try or follow each time is helpful.
someone got in contact with them but bcs it was friday, we won't know their answer till next week. meanwhile let's see if they will keep sending those emails to more approved candidates or not.

did you or your family got that email Nala2021?

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Re: Upcoming Ceremony in 2023

Post by juleppe » Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:54 pm

Yes, the emails are legit. You can't use cvent services without verification. Also, the Minister of justice has partnered with them since the pandemic. Only big ceremony thousands of People will be announced.
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Re: Upcoming Ceremony in 2023

Post by juleppe » Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:54 pm

Yes, the emails are legit. You can't use cvent services without verification. Also, the Minister of justice has partnered with them since the pandemic. Only big ceremony thousands of People will be announced.
https://www.irishimmigration.ie/how-to- ... a9d1405675

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Re: Upcoming Ceremony in 2023

Post by SeaSpirit » Mon Feb 27, 2023 10:18 am

Hi, any updates about that emails from cvent?
Thanks in advance

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Re: Upcoming Ceremony in 2023

Post by jesonnn » Mon Feb 27, 2023 11:16 am

SeaSpirit wrote:
Mon Feb 27, 2023 10:18 am
Hi, any updates about that emails from cvent?
Thanks in advance
Only rumors and in-official confirmations across facebook and LinkedIn, no any real updates from department yet, I am now becoming worried if any we may expect from them...

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Re: Upcoming Ceremony in 2023

Post by mentalmind » Mon Feb 27, 2023 11:21 am

I read some comments that few people called and ask RDS about the event and they confirmed indeed Justice Department booked for that day. But apart from that there is no other info and no official information.

edit: just saw someone got a reply from citizenship department saying that event is legit. So I think it's legit event but I don't know based on what who got this email.

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Re: Upcoming Ceremony in 2023

Post by professor_007 » Mon Feb 27, 2023 11:40 am

I sent an email to the department on Friday to confirm if the invitations are legit - no response yet.

But then I thought I'm not giving any new info other than what they already know as the form was prepopulated with my name and email id, except for the Nationality, I thought it'd be a low risk even if I submit the form with the details.

So I went ahead and submitted the form. The only thing I got is an email confirmation. Didn't ask for payment or anything.

One sad thing is they are asking not to bring children to the event. I have a 3 month old baby, I can't even take my spouse with me. I'll have to attend alone if it's really happening :(


Dear *******,
Thank you for registering to attend the Citizenship Ceremony 2023 in the RDS, Ballsbridge on Friday, 10 March 2023 at 12:00pm.

Please attend for registration at 11:00am at the RDS Anglesea Road entrance, Hall 2.
You must bring your invitation and your current passport/travel doc/IRP card (even if it is out of date) with you for registration purposes.
To complete your naturalisation process you must print the declaration of fidelity which can be found here. Please fill in the declaration prior to attending the event, and bring it with you to sign in the presence of a Departmental Official.
If you are a holder of an Irish Residence Permit you will need to produce your IRP card on the day of the ceremony to provide evidence of your in-date permission.
Following your participation in the Ceremony and your swearing of the oath of fidelity you will be an Irish Citizen. Your certificate of naturalisation will be sent to you via registered post within a couple of weeks.
You may bring one adult guest with you on the day. Only one adult guest will be permitted to enter the venue with you. With regret, we ask you do not bring children to this event.
In order to minimise queues and queuing time, you are asked not to arrive before your scheduled time. You can only attend the ceremony that you have been assigned. Transfers between ceremonies are not possible.
Note: Non-attendance on the date and time offered to you will result in a significant delay in scheduling you for a future ceremony.
Yours sincerely,
Citizenship Ceremony Team

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Re: Upcoming Ceremony in 2023

Post by professor_007 » Mon Feb 27, 2023 11:42 am

professor_007 wrote:
Mon Feb 27, 2023 11:40 am
I sent an email to the department on Friday to confirm if the invitations are legit - no response yet.

But then I thought I'm not giving any new info other than what they already know as the form was prepopulated with my name and email id, except for the Nationality, I thought it'd be a low risk even if I submit the form with the details.

So I went ahead and submitted the form. The only thing I got is an email confirmation. Didn't ask for payment or anything.

One sad thing is they are asking not to bring children to the event. I have a 3 month old baby, I can't even take my spouse with me. I'll have to attend alone if it's really happening :(


Dear *******,
Thank you for registering to attend the Citizenship Ceremony 2023 in the RDS, Ballsbridge on Friday, 10 March 2023 at 12:00pm.

Please attend for registration at 11:00am at the RDS Anglesea Road entrance, Hall 2.
You must bring your invitation and your current passport/travel doc/IRP card (even if it is out of date) with you for registration purposes.
To complete your naturalisation process you must print the declaration of fidelity which can be found here. Please fill in the declaration prior to attending the event, and bring it with you to sign in the presence of a Departmental Official.
If you are a holder of an Irish Residence Permit you will need to produce your IRP card on the day of the ceremony to provide evidence of your in-date permission.
Following your participation in the Ceremony and your swearing of the oath of fidelity you will be an Irish Citizen. Your certificate of naturalisation will be sent to you via registered post within a couple of weeks.
You may bring one adult guest with you on the day. Only one adult guest will be permitted to enter the venue with you. With regret, we ask you do not bring children to this event.
In order to minimise queues and queuing time, you are asked not to arrive before your scheduled time. You can only attend the ceremony that you have been assigned. Transfers between ceremonies are not possible.
Note: Non-attendance on the date and time offered to you will result in a significant delay in scheduling you for a future ceremony.
Yours sincerely,
Citizenship Ceremony Team
Just got confirmation it's legit

Dear ***

Thank you for your email. I can confirm that the email invitation you received from this office is legitimate and relates to your attendance at the forthcoming citizenship ceremony in the RDS Dublin on March 10th.

Please follow the instructions as advised in order to complete your naturalisation process.

Kind regards

Citizenship Helpdesk
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Re: Upcoming Ceremony in 2023

Post by Lelldorin77 » Mon Feb 27, 2023 11:45 am

I got an email from the citizenship department confirming that the invite is legitimate and the ceremony ia going ahead.

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Re: Upcoming Ceremony in 2023

Post by Tiffany » Mon Feb 27, 2023 11:49 am

Hi,

I received an email invitation on Friday 24th to attend the ceremony at RDS, Ballsbridge on 10th March 2023. It has been confirmed by Citizenship info (citizenship Helpdesk Team 11 ) that this email is legitimate.

You can contact them if want to reassure yourself @ citizenshipinfo@justice.ie

Hope this helps :)

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Re: Upcoming Ceremony in 2023

Post by jesonnn » Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:36 pm

I think for now everyone who has not received any invite email should consider to wait next one, due to answer from Citizenship Help desk I got:
"Thank you for your email. Attending a citizenship ceremony is the final step to complete the naturalisation process. All invitations have now been issued for the upcoming ceremony. Please monitor our website for any updates in relation to any future ceremonies [and link to general irishimmigration.ie] "
Nothing more. That's very unclear at the same time nothing has said about which ceremony exactly they are referring to, nothing why some people who applied after have been invited and who applied earlier not.... Any thoughts? Will freedom information request make them more clear and keep in good fit next time to process it? Curious...

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Re: Upcoming Ceremony in 2023

Post by mentalmind » Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:47 pm

jesonnn wrote:
Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:36 pm
I think for now everyone who has not received any invite email should consider to wait next one, due to answer from Citizenship Help desk I got:
"Thank you for your email. Attending a citizenship ceremony is the final step to complete the naturalisation process. All invitations have now been issued for the upcoming ceremony. Please monitor our website for any updates in relation to any future ceremonies [and link to general irishimmigration.ie] "
Nothing more. That's very unclear at the same time nothing has said about which ceremony exactly they are referring to, nothing why some people who applied after have been invited and who applied earlier not.... Any thoughts? Will freedom information request make them more clear and keep in good fit next time to process it? Curious...
I had a last bits of hope left for this country but after this event that is also gone. What kind of government organization makes a secret unannounced citizenship ceremony without inviting some of the approved candidates? I can't imagine.

What is the logic of making people wait for ceremony for months I can't understand either. My payment is processed in January 2023, what on earth will it change if I get the ceremony in March or June or even November 2023. Apparently it doesn't make any difference when people sign piece of paper or oath to fidelity verbally, then why make all those people wait because they removed signing the paper practice as covid is no longer.

Even the idea of this invites being sent quietly (as in no announcements anywhere) makes me sick. This country doesn't value their citizens nor their future citizens. I have more words to say but don't want to get banned from the board.

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Re: Upcoming Ceremony in 2023

Post by jesonnn » Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:05 pm

mentalmind wrote:
Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:47 pm
jesonnn wrote:
Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:36 pm
I think for now everyone who has not received any invite email should consider to wait next one, due to answer from Citizenship Help desk I got:
"Thank you for your email. Attending a citizenship ceremony is the final step to complete the naturalisation process. All invitations have now been issued for the upcoming ceremony. Please monitor our website for any updates in relation to any future ceremonies [and link to general irishimmigration.ie] "
Nothing more. That's very unclear at the same time nothing has said about which ceremony exactly they are referring to, nothing why some people who applied after have been invited and who applied earlier not.... Any thoughts? Will freedom information request make them more clear and keep in good fit next time to process it? Curious...
I had a last bits of hope left for this country but after this event that is also gone. What kind of government organization makes a secret unannounced citizenship ceremony without inviting some of the approved candidates? I can't imagine.

What is the logic of making people wait for ceremony for months I can't understand either. My payment is processed in January 2023, what on earth will it change if I get the ceremony in March or June or even November 2023. Apparently it doesn't make any difference when people sign piece of paper or oath to fidelity verbally, then why make all those people wait because they removed signing the paper practice as covid is no longer.

Even the idea of this invites being sent quietly (as in no announcements anywhere) makes me sick. This country doesn't value their citizens nor their future citizens. I have more words to say but don't want to get banned from the board.
Fully understand you my friend, and agree, paying so much for that... I had to pay for myself and wife taking the loan (she can't normally find a job with short 1g stamp and citizenship is important here as well), all of that making me fully frustrated from the process I have been involved with no chance to affect or change it until fully pass. Hidden invites..., no official statements, like some spy games around that quite simple subject...
Does not value, indeed....

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Re: Upcoming Ceremony in 2023

Post by littlerr » Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:11 pm

For what it’s worth, this has been the same every year. I think COVID significantly disrupted their normal workflow, but everything is (slowly) getting back the old ways now.

Before COVID, there would always be 1-3 smaller ceremonies every year and they would never be announced on INIS’s website.

I used to release such information earlier than someone would publicly come forward and confirm their invitation letter from INIS (e.g. ireland/next-ceremony-after-29-april-t279434.html), and I would usually receive the same types of doubts and questions. I was later asked not to release such information.

It is understandably frustrating for someone to have pay the fees and not receiving the invitation. INIS is not giving away too much on how such invitations are issued for smaller ceremonies. All I can say is that smaller ceremonies are intended to relieve pressure on specific units - it can be pressure from local TD’s, applicants who have sent numerous chase letters, people with special needs, plus a few lucky ones who happen to be in the area.

INIS still wants the vast majority of applicants to attend the main ceremony in Kerry, as that one is much more ‘formal’ than the rest. I know most of you just want to get the ordeal done and don’t care about the ceremony itself (and I know the overwhelming majority would hate to travel to Kerry for that, me included), but that’s what INIS has planned for most of you and you were advised at the very beginning that this is the likely outcome, so you would have to just accept it. The old way of being sworn in at your local court along with other criminals and suspects were quite negative and that process is long gone.

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Re: Upcoming Ceremony in 2023

Post by mentalmind » Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:19 pm

littlerr wrote:
Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:11 pm
For what it’s worth, this has been the same every year. I think COVID significantly disrupted their normal workflow, but everything is (slowly) getting back the old ways now.

Before COVID, there would always be 1-3 smaller ceremonies every year and they would never be announced on INIS’s website.

I used to release such information earlier than someone would publicly come forward and confirm their invitation letter from INIS (e.g. ireland/next-ceremony-after-29-april-t279434.html), and I would usually receive the same types of doubts and questions. I was later asked not to release such information.

It is understandably frustrating for someone to have pay the fees and not receiving the invitation. INIS is not giving away too much on how such invitations are issued for smaller ceremonies. All I can say is that smaller ceremonies are intended to relieve pressure on specific units - it can be pressure from local TD’s, applicants who have sent numerous chase letters, people with special needs, plus a few lucky ones who happen to be in the area.

INIS still wants the vast majority of applicants to attend the main ceremony in Kerry, as that one is much more ‘formal’ than the rest. I know most of you just want to get the ordeal done and don’t care about the ceremony itself (and I know the overwhelming majority would hate to travel to Kerry for that, me included), but that’s what INIS has planned for most of you and you were advised at the very beginning that this is the likely outcome, so you would have to just accept it. The old way of being sworn in at your local court along with other criminals and suspects were quite negative and that process is long gone.
Well I will share this with some news website and local TD and when I get voting rights I will for sure not vote for current government.

Hiding info from future citizens is not a good act at all.

Sorry for all this rant. But when the email says “you will get info from ISD about upcoming citizenship ceremony” and you hear nothing, it’s not cool.

And, there is no guarantee that already payment processed candidates will be invited to the ceremony in June apparently.

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Post by jesonnn » Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:28 pm

littlerr wrote:
Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:11 pm
All I can say is that smaller ceremonies are intended to relieve pressure on specific units - it can be pressure from local TD’s, applicants who have sent numerous chase letters, people with special needs, plus a few lucky ones who happen to be in the area.
Not at all, I was communicating with my local TDs, with different of them, asking via emails etc, but I know (well, really wish them all the best) people are not bothering them at all and applied after got invited. Some people are waiting from 21 even with no eVetting, this is completely unfair, I am ready to wait in a queue, no problem, but until first input first output, why do they change the order?
For election if I ever get the opportunity for that 100% not current government, not FFFG

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Post by YleDub » Mon Feb 27, 2023 7:01 pm

I have received the same email from cvent and I did click yes.

I'd just like to know if I should book mum to come over or not?!
At this stage, I don't even know if it is worth it, like if it is not an 'official' fussy ceremony, maybe there is no point in her coming over?!

Mah, anyhow I will send an email as well to the department of justice, but I guess I will receive the same automated email that someone here has received...

Thanks a mill guys and best of luck to everyone!

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Post by littlerr » Mon Feb 27, 2023 8:21 pm

There has been the same frustration over the years, but they never make to mainstream media as naturalisation is still a tiny part of the Irish justice system. You can, of course, raise the issue with your TD and ask them for an official written response, or better, threaten INIS with legal action directly if you believe you are unfairly treated. INIS will then be compelled to present evidence to the court as to why you were not included in the ceremony but others were. Most people just don’t bother once they receive the approval letter.

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Post by littlerr » Mon Feb 27, 2023 8:23 pm

YleDub wrote:
Mon Feb 27, 2023 7:01 pm
I have received the same email from cvent and I did click yes.

I'd just like to know if I should book mum to come over or not?!
At this stage, I don't even know if it is worth it, like if it is not an 'official' fussy ceremony, maybe there is no point in her coming over?!

Mah, anyhow I will send an email as well to the department of justice, but I guess I will receive the same automated email that someone here has received...

Thanks a mill guys and best of luck to everyone!
If she’s nearby, yes.
If she’s more than 2-3 hours of drive away, I wouldn’t bother that, unless she really wants to come. It is still a special day. The fact they booked this in RDS sort of indicates it’s not going to be a tiny one as opposed to some other ones (like the one in Waterford in my last link).

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Post by Nala2021 » Mon Feb 27, 2023 8:37 pm

Again I think that this is a straightforward issue.

INIS most probably has a conveyor belt for the applications, some will take longer than others to go through the steps. Some will wait longer for an acknowledgment, some others for e-vetting, others for the approval, and finally others for the ceremony. In the end of the day, more or less, everyone reaches the final step.

I believe however that when an applicant has been lucky to have had the approval letter, then s/he should be respectful towards the feelings that other applicants who have not yet received their approval letters may have. Because in the end of the day, the approval letter is the most important step. It is the step that signifies that the processing of the application is over, and everything else that remains is pure bureaucracy.

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Post by mentalmind » Mon Feb 27, 2023 9:01 pm

YleDub wrote:
Mon Feb 27, 2023 7:01 pm
I have received the same email from cvent and I did click yes.

I'd just like to know if I should book mum to come over or not?!
At this stage, I don't even know if it is worth it, like if it is not an 'official' fussy ceremony, maybe there is no point in her coming over?!

Mah, anyhow I will send an email as well to the department of justice, but I guess I will receive the same automated email that someone here has received...

Thanks a mill guys and best of luck to everyone!
What I read (instructions in the email) that you will sign fidelity to nation paper (which you should bring with you to the event) in front of witnesses. And they will send the naturalization certificates by post few weeks later.

If you mom is in mainland or further away I wouldn’t bother honestly. Even I don’t think I will invite my parents to the ceremony in June (if I get an invite).

But if your mum is in Ireland or nearby and doesn’t have to deal with visa and paperwork of course it would be nice gesture for parents. After all this thing doesn’t happen all the time for you.

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Re: Upcoming Ceremony in 2023

Post by griffith2 » Tue Feb 28, 2023 12:46 am

Guys my evetting was recently viewed. After reading your comments i am also loosing hope.

I am not even travelling just for the sake of an approval letter. It took 22 months for an evetting and the department gave me a correspondence letter in jan 23 that within 12 weeks of background checks the file will be forwarded to the minister to sign. I can only hope they walk the talk but after looking at you guys i think i can forget about it.

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Re: Upcoming Ceremony in 2023

Post by mentalmind » Tue Feb 28, 2023 1:01 am

griffith2 wrote:
Tue Feb 28, 2023 12:46 am
Guys my evetting was recently viewed. After reading your comments i am also loosing hope.

I am not even travelling just for the sake of an approval letter. It took 22 months for an evetting and the department gave me a correspondence letter in jan 23 that within 12 weeks of background checks the file will be forwarded to the minister to sign. I can only hope they walk the talk but after looking at you guys i think i can forget about it.
I think average 23 months is till the time you get an official approval, so they can still approve your application in a week and make you wait till next ceremony. The 23 month (average duration) doesn't include the ceremony time apparently. Someone correct me if I am wrong.

About the invitation to March 10th, if you didn't get it already, you won't get it. I already sent them an email and asked and they said they won't be sending any more invites for March 10th event and I should keep checking their website for their next event.

Even if you get it (which I highly doubt at this point due to what ISD answered) it will be via email, if you get approval, you will have 28 days to pay the fee so you can travel freely.

Meanwhile I will just find a TD to ask how does that double standards for ceremonies work as some people get the invite and some don't.

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