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Re: Visa C application redirected in Dublin

Post by blastbass » Thu Feb 28, 2019 12:51 pm

You should be able to obtain the status and where your application is via the AVATS Tool provided by INIS?

I was able to reach the Embassy in Vienna and they told me that they need to send all EU Treaty Visa applications to Dublin so most likely ours will end up there as well. But it surely sounds like priortising specific countries if Germany can state a 4 week timeframe. Austria is a bit vague of that saying they haven't processed an EU Spouse Visa for some time and have no info on how long it takes. I try to phone into the Berlin Embassy tomorrow again asking if the 4 weeks timeframe is still realistic

Try to check the "how to apply" section at the embassy website.

Fingers crossed, the run begins ..

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Re: Visa C application redirected in Dublin

Post by Myself_andI » Thu Feb 28, 2019 1:50 pm

I will let you know when I have more information.

Where is your wife from, if you don't mind me asking?

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Re: Visa C application redirected in Dublin

Post by blastbass » Thu Feb 28, 2019 2:07 pm

I don't mind the question at all. My wife is from Bosnia. A few more meters to the left and she would have been croatian and we wouldn't have that issue -.-

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Re: Visa C application redirected in Dublin

Post by Myself_andI » Thu Feb 28, 2019 2:16 pm

Tell me about it.....I was wishing for Poland on the left..
Well from the waiting times we have in front of us, there is a good chance for Bosnia will enter EU by then :)

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Re: Visa C application redirected in Dublin

Post by blastbass » Thu Feb 28, 2019 2:22 pm

Well if it takes that long hell is loose let me tell you. But look what I found here.

https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/t ... dex_en.htm
Arriving at the border without an entry visa

It is always best for your non-EU family members to be well informed in advance and have all the necessary documents before starting their journey.

However, if they arrive at the border without an entry visa, the border authorities should give them the opportunity to prove by other means that they are your family members. If they manage to prove it, they should be issued with an entry visa on the spot.

HOWEVER it's not clearly stated if thats for the Schengen room only. I've sent a inquiry to them asking for clarification on this. Maybe there's a little loophole we may can make use of. If it's then necessary to travel with her so it be but yeah this paragraph deep dive is making me sick....

As you said pharmacutical company there I'm guessing about that large area in Dundarrow?

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Re: Visa C application redirected in Dublin

Post by Myself_andI » Thu Feb 28, 2019 3:02 pm

You know, someone suggested that in another post I've read but I was reluctant to do it cause I didn't know if that would affect the later Stamp 4 phase. I think it would be harder to explain how from a simple visit family member visa will turn into "i wanna stay permanent" visa. But then again that is just my thoughts.

I am in Kildare county at the moment.

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Re: Visa C application redirected in Dublin

Post by blastbass » Thu Feb 28, 2019 4:00 pm

Let's wait then on what the comission says ...

Funny thing is that I find nowhere that these type of visas are being referred to Dublin EXCEPT for the embassy in India.

I'll post back tomorrow when I called the Berlin Embassy to ask if they need to do that as well.

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Re: Visa C application redirected in Dublin

Post by blastbass » Thu Feb 28, 2019 10:05 pm

by the way the "join family" visas to be approved arrived in the dublin office on December 11th and judging logically these are the visas for Non EU Family Reunification and Irish Citizen (click the hyperlink) Sooooooo being optimistic the accelerated process may kicks in before.

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Re: Visa C application redirected in Dublin

Post by Myself_andI » Fri Mar 01, 2019 8:48 am

Hey,
i saw the date of when visa was received once you've said it. Honestly thought, This is for D visa. Cause if we have submitted C visa for EU member spouse and they treat it like D visa, we have a serious problem.

One question though, the marriage certificate, was it the original or a copy?My wife went with both original and copy and the employees there in Ukraine told he that copy is enough and when I spoke with the Russian embassy they also said that the copy is ok.However, the Irish site indicates that all documents should be originals. I am kinda worried about it.

Thanks

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Re: Visa C application redirected in Dublin

Post by blastbass » Fri Mar 01, 2019 10:21 am

If in doubt sent originals besides your passport. So did we I put in everything to proove that I'm living here and that I'm working here permanently.
I'm only worried for the time span that it may can take and the unclear categorization from INIS that they don't give the information to what that accelerated process is compared to.

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Re: Visa C application redirected in Dublin

Post by Myself_andI » Fri Mar 01, 2019 10:27 am

We already sent now so I hope if they want the original, they will ask.

On the 6th of March it will be one month for us so if we don't have any news around that time I will know that the people in Russia knew what they where talking about when they said that this visa is being treated as a "Join Spouse" visa.

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Re: Visa C application redirected in Dublin

Post by blastbass » Fri Mar 01, 2019 10:37 am

As I said I don't understand this classification and why we're explicitly steered to apply for a C Visa... It doesn't make any sense to me at least. Visit Family/Friends C Visas are much more what this should be for ...

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Re: Visa C application redirected in Dublin

Post by Myself_andI » Fri Mar 01, 2019 10:42 am

To my understanding and from reading visa D requirements, the spouse should be either Irish or Non-EU and we are neither so this is why we are directed towards to the specific type of visa.
If this is what you are asking...

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Re: Visa C application redirected in Dublin

Post by blastbass » Fri Mar 01, 2019 10:48 am

Well there's a clear line for our situation in the article you're referring to

The policies do not apply to:

applications pursuant to Directive 2004/38/EC on the rights of citizens of the Union and their family members to move and reside freely within the territory of Member States
applications for family reunification by recognised refugees or persons granted subsidiary protection.

So all confusing ...

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Re: Visa C application redirected in Dublin

Post by blastbass » Mon Mar 04, 2019 8:12 am

The EU Comission came back to me yesterday, saying the following:

Dear Citizen,

Thank you for your enquiry to the Your Europe Advice service.

There is provision under Article 5(4), Directive 2004/38/EC under which your wife could present at the Irish border with her passport and marriage certificate and present these to the Irish immigration authorities. The process is not confined to the Schengen area. The Irish immigration authorities would then consider this documentation and investigate whether your wife presents a threat to public security or public health or public policy (Article 27, Directive 2004/38/EC) before issuing a visa to her. However, we do not recommend this option as it can result in unpleasant delays and may ultimately result in refusal. In addition, you may find that airlines or ferries will not permit your wife to board without a valid visa. We therefore recommend that your wife awaits issue of her visa from the Irish authorities before attempting to enter Ireland. The visa should issue to her without delay or formality or charge as she will be joining you in Ireland (Article 5, Directive 2004/38/EC).

We trust that this information is of assistance to you. Should you have any further queries in relation to protection of your rights in the EU, please do not hesitate to revert to the Your Europe Advice service.

Yours sincerely,
Your Europe Advice

To submit another enquiry, please visit Your Europe Advice, but do not reply to this e-mail.

I find it kind of comforting that these guys take some time for your requests and come back with solid answers !

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Re: Visa C application redirected in Dublin

Post by Myself_andI » Tue Mar 05, 2019 2:04 pm

Hi,

Tomorrow we will be in one month in so I got this response from visa applications department in Ireland and I will share it with you

"Dear....

Thank you for your email of 26/02/2019.

The application referred to is currently awaiting examination.

Due to the large volume of applications of this type, the visa office is
currently experiencing some delays in the processing of applications.
While every effort is made to process these applications as soon as
possible, processing times will vary, having regard to the volume of
applications, their complexity, the possible need for the visa office to
seek further information in relation to certain applications, and the
resources available.

Kind regards,"


So i guess that one month is not enough and we have no idea when we will have the response

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Re: Visa C application redirected in Dublin

Post by blastbass » Tue Mar 05, 2019 3:24 pm

You may consider EU Solvit for that case.

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Re: Visa C application redirected in Dublin

Post by Myself_andI » Tue Mar 05, 2019 3:43 pm

I have no idea what is that!

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Re: Visa C application redirected in Dublin

Post by CR001 » Tue Mar 05, 2019 3:45 pm

Myself_andI wrote:
Tue Mar 05, 2019 3:43 pm
I have no idea what is that!
http://ec.europa.eu/internal_market/sco ... dex_en.htm
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Re: Visa C application redirected in Dublin

Post by Myself_andI » Tue Mar 05, 2019 4:02 pm

Thanks!

So you think i can go and give this a try or it will piss people off more and will examine my case in 100 months? :)

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