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omeo_21
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Marriage in the UK??

Post by omeo_21 » Thu Aug 06, 2009 3:57 pm

Hi guys, firstly I don't know if this is the right place to post this topic so forgive if i'm wrong.

Basically I'm planning to get married to my cousin who is from abroad.I am a british national. Its a genuine relationship that has been going on for a number of years and is part of my custom and culture. My cousin came to visit me last year on a family visa here in the UK and she has been given another family visa to visit the UK which is valid for only 6 months. On the time when she arrives she'll have approximately 3 months left on her visa. If i decided at this time to get married to her in the UK would it at all be possible on the family visa, I know I would most likely need a certificate of approval and such???

I greatly appreciate to those who give me answers, I have posted on other sites but I just received ridiculous comments.

Thanks again!!!!

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Post by batleykhan » Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:36 am

No it would not be possible to do what you have suggested

Your cousin is here on a visitors family visit visa. She wouldnot be allowed to get married here in the UK and then be allowed to stay as your spouse.

This is in some peoples opinion called "jumping the queue".

My advise is that your cousin goes back to where she came from and apply either a fiance visa or a spouse visa. The first one demands that you have both met, which you have fulfilled and therefore she is eligible (providing you are both over 21).

My advise would be to go for the latter (spouse)but that will mean you will have to get married abroad first and then she applys as your spouse. In the long run this will work out better for you.

I would certainly not try what you have suggested as that will have long term mplication in the future.

Hope this has answered your question

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Post by ginoT » Fri Aug 07, 2009 9:01 am

batleykhan is right - using visit visas as a means to achieve other ends is loathed by the HO and they'll instantly pick up on it and reject future applications.

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Post by omeo_21 » Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:00 pm

I know that they would not be able to stay if they accepted the marriage and she would have to return, I acknowledge that. My problem is that if i do go and marry her abroad i dont know how long it would take and then theres the possibility of me loosing work which i would need in order to sponser her.
WOuld it not be at all possible for them to accept the marriage here as i stated before, send her back and then she can apply for a marriage visa without the need for me to go there and therefore risk the chance of loosing work??

thanks

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Post by ginoT » Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:18 pm

You can, but it’s a tad risky in that when she goes back the consulate might kick up a fuss about her coming over on a visit visa when the real reason for coming was for marriage. The correct visa in that case would have been a fiancée visa which is trickier to get than the visit visa & a ton more expensive.

HOWEVER – she can always say she didn’t expect you to propose when she came and seeing as she was here thought it was sensible to proceed with COA & getting married. She just needs to convince everyone that it wasn’t her primary intention for coming in the first place. Chances are the spouse visa will get refused when she goes back BUT you’ll have right of appeal ‘n all that so you’ll have to wait another 6-9months before the appeal finishes, she gets the spouse visa and gets to come over. If you go down the appeal route it’ll mean filing more forms and documents and actually attending the appeal hearing.

Why not simply apply for a financée visa in the home country with you here and do everything by the book? You’ll be in for a fight otherwise. Not worth it

I hope she’s a distant cousin btw and you both genuinely love eachother – I don’t approve of all customs out there in the world. Many are cruel, barbaric and against the basic ways of nature. Just because they are “customsâ€
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Post by Wanderer » Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:26 pm

[quote="ginoT"]You can, but it’s a tad risky in that when she goes back the consulate might kick up a fuss about her coming over on a visit visa when the real reason for coming was for marriage. The correct visa in that case would have been a fiancée visa which is trickier to get than the visit visa & a ton more expensive.

HOWEVER – she can always say she didn’t expect you to propose when she came and seeing as she was here thought it was sensible to proceed with COA & getting married. She just needs to convince everyone that it wasn’t her primary intention for coming in the first place. Chances are the spouse visa will get refused when she goes back BUT you’ll have right of appeal ‘n all that so you’ll have to wait another 6-9months before the appeal finishes, she gets the spouse visa and gets to come over. If you go down the appeal route it’ll mean filing more forms and documents and actually attending the appeal hearing.

Why not simply apply for a financée visa in the home country with you here and do everything by the book? You’ll be in for a fight otherwise. Not worth it

I hope she’s a distant cousin btw – I don’t approve of all customs out there in the world. Many are cruel, barbaric and against the basic ways of nature. Just because they are “customsâ€
An chéad stad eile Stáisiún Uí Chonghaile....

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Post by omeo_21 » Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:28 pm

thanks gino for your answer. Yeh she is a distant cousin!

Secondly the chances of her being able to prove to the home office that it wasnt her intention to marry and just came for a visit as you stated is probably going to be very hard.I know how the home office is.

You said apply for a fiance visa, can she do this even if shes still on a visiting visa? and secondly which visa marriage or fiance would probably have the greater success??

I was thinking of just telling her to come here for a visit for around a month and the return home.THe fact that shes been here twice then will probably be in our favour. Then once shes returned either she applies for a fiance visa or i return with her and marry her there and thin bring her on a marriage visa

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Post by Wanderer » Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:30 pm

omeo_21 wrote:thanks gino for your answer. Yeh she is a distant cousin!

Secondly the chances of her being able to prove to the home office that it wasnt her intention to marry and just came for a visit as you stated is probably going to be very hard.I know how the home office is.

You said apply for a fiance visa, can she do this even if shes still on a visiting visa? and secondly which visa marriage or fiance would probably have the greater success??

I was thinking of just telling her to come here for a visit for around a month and the return home.THe fact that shes been here twice then will probably be in our favour. Then once shes returned either she applies for a fiance visa or i return with her and marry her there and thin bring her on a marriage visa
U can only apply for a Fiancee visa outside the UK
An chéad stad eile Stáisiún Uí Chonghaile....

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Post by Wanderer » Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:39 pm

[quote="ginoT"]I hope she’s a distant cousin btw and you both genuinely love eachother – I don’t approve of all customs out there in the world. Many are cruel, barbaric and against the basic ways of nature. Just because they are “customsâ€
An chéad stad eile Stáisiún Uí Chonghaile....

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Post by omeo_21 » Fri Aug 07, 2009 1:03 pm

yeh if they going to send her back anyway even if they give her the marriage we might aswell do it the correct way and save ourselves the hassle!

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Post by batleykhan » Fri Aug 07, 2009 3:00 pm

Wanderer

Lets keep to the topic mate

I last heard that England were 101 for 8 against Aussies (sorry they are all out for 102), ah well at least Pakistan are doing a bit better for once against Sri Lanka


now.... what are we suppose to be discussing

oh yeh this Omeo_21 is adamant he wants to get married here in UK... look pal, I would strongly advise that you follow the advice of the three wise men who have so far advised you in this post

It is in your best interest and will save you a lot of hassle in the long run.

Gino: Pakistanis or Muslims in general are allowed to marry their 1st Cousins. If there were any serious risk to children being born deformed or with certain illness or disabilities, then our religious belief and God would not have allowed this type of marriage to take place.

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Post by was794 » Fri Aug 07, 2009 5:01 pm

[quote="Wanderer"][quote="ginoT"]I hope she’s a distant cousin btw and you both genuinely love eachother – I don’t approve of all customs out there in the world. Many are cruel, barbaric and against the basic ways of nature. Just because they are “customsâ€

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