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EU National with a NON-EU family member

Post by Jersey » Thu Dec 18, 2008 4:30 pm

Hi All

First of all, let me say that after reading many of the threads here, I can say that you're doing great job here.

My question is: I'm an EU national and my fiance is a NON-EU national (we plan to marry but it would be outside the UK probably, because of the high fiance visa fees) . What does UK residence card will give my non-EU family member? will she be able to work in the UK?

Thanks in advance

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Re: EU National with a NON-EU family member

Post by msmoby_ru » Thu Dec 18, 2008 5:00 pm

Jersey wrote:Hi All

First of all, let me say that after reading many of the threads here, I can say that you're doing great job here.

My question is: I'm an EU national and my fiance is a NON-EU national (we plan to marry but it would be outside the UK probably, because of the high fiance visa fees) . What does UK residence card will give my non-EU family member? will she be able to work in the UK?

Thanks in advance
Do you and your spouse reside in another EU country yet? If so and you can prove that your are in a long-term relationship -- and have been residing in a third party EU country for six months or more you can apply for a EEA family permit - which gives your wife to be the same rights to work as you ! You have to show you can work and support yourself.

The important thing to have is a ID card from the third party EU country showing right of residency there..

So.. you might have to wait six months if you aren't living together, yet.

My Wife is Russian and she is here on a EEA Permit with her son .. I was able to use this method as a UK citizen as I exercised my rights of freedom of movement and could show I worked in the third party EU country and that we has resided there for more than six months.

My Wife was able to start work immediately, but she had to wait for about two weks until she got her Nat Insurance number before anyone would even look at her job applications.. !!

Look at the UK Visa site and search under EEA Family permit

Good luck

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Post by Richard66 » Thu Dec 18, 2008 6:49 pm

They seem to be revising the rules for the EEA FP. Maybe they will scrap it. There is a disscussion about it on the forum.
Aiming at travelling to the UK with my wife and not with an EEA FP!

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Post by Jersey » Thu Dec 18, 2008 6:54 pm

Alright, but at the moment, what does the residence card gives? Apart from residing, can she work in the UK?

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Post by msmoby_ru » Thu Dec 18, 2008 11:02 pm

Hi Jersey!

As I said, on successfully obtaining an EEA Family permit the dependent has the same rights to work as an EU / EEA citizen.. So they can work immediately they arrive in the UK... but most employers will want to see a Nat insurance number.... which can be obtained in 10 days or less

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Post by Jersey » Fri Dec 19, 2008 6:42 am

cheers!

Do you know by any chance how long it take until you get the residence card? Can you apply in person in one of their office in Croydon?

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Post by Wanderer » Fri Dec 19, 2008 8:25 am

The OP has not given enough information - is he exercising a treaty right?

Reading between the lines - EU citizen can mean just UK citizen and the fact the OP mention high visa fees seems to indicate he's UK-based and not exercising a treaty right.
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Post by msmoby_ru » Fri Dec 19, 2008 9:12 am

Jersey wrote:cheers!

Do you know by any chance how long it take until you get the residence card? Can you apply in person in one of their office in Croydon?
No about personally visiting.. don't know :(



.. and we expect a stamp in the passport..not a residency card

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Post by Casa » Fri Dec 19, 2008 10:13 am

No personal applications for EU permits...but can you confirm as Wanderer has asked that you're EU citizen, not UK national?

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Post by Jersey » Fri Dec 19, 2008 10:27 am

Casa, I'm an EU citizen (Romanian) and exercise a treaty right. I understood that Romanians and Bulgarians need to apply in person (so their family members), but for the rest 25 EU member states the procedures are different.

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Post by msmoby_ru » Fri Dec 19, 2008 5:38 pm

Jersey wrote:Casa, I'm an EU citizen (Romanian) and exercise a treaty right. I understood that Romanians and Bulgarians need to apply in person (so their family members), but for the rest 25 EU member states the procedures are different.
Wow, this is like extracting teeth.. painful.. I WISH you had mentioned your nationality was one of the two exceptions .

The Romanian / Bulgarian has to demonstrate they have a position ( job) in the UK and obtain a work permit which has to be enclosed with the EA family permit application.

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Post by Wanderer » Fri Dec 19, 2008 6:02 pm

msmoby_ru wrote:
Jersey wrote:Casa, I'm an EU citizen (Romanian) and exercise a treaty right. I understood that Romanians and Bulgarians need to apply in person (so their family members), but for the rest 25 EU member states the procedures are different.
Wow, this is like extracting teeth.. painful.. I WISH you had mentioned your nationality was one of the two exceptions .

The Romanian / Bulgarian has to demonstrate they have a position ( job) in the UK and obtain a work permit which has to be enclosed with the EA family permit application.
Or be self-employed or a student or otherwise self-sufficient I think?
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Post by msmoby_ru » Fri Dec 19, 2008 7:27 pm

Wanderer wrote:
Or be self-employed or a student or otherwise self-sufficient I think?
A Bulgarian / Romanian Student bringing his non EEA family member has to demonstrate he she can support himself and her.. no?

http://www.ukcisa.org.uk/student/eea.php

If they are self employed they would they not have to demonstrate have to demonstrate a contract bringing in sufficient funds to support themselves..?

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Post by Wanderer » Sat Dec 20, 2008 9:48 am

msmoby_ru wrote:
Wanderer wrote:
Or be self-employed or a student or otherwise self-sufficient I think?
A Bulgarian / Romanian Student bringing his non EEA family member has to demonstrate he she can support himself and her.. no?

http://www.ukcisa.org.uk/student/eea.php

If they are self employed they would they not have to demonstrate have to demonstrate a contract bringing in sufficient funds to support themselves..?
I didn't think there are any financial tests with EU apps, are there?
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