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odd scenario

Post by OneT » Wed Apr 27, 2016 2:10 pm

I have a slight odd scenario.
About 10 years ago - I applied for a student visa stating that I am the only sibling- and would return to my home country upon completion of my studies. I also showed some property(house , business etc) that I will return to take ownership of these. The form B I submitted didn't listed any siblings I had that time.
Now I am a naturalised UK citizen. And would like to sposnor my brother to come and visit me.
My question is would it create a problem for me(deception) or my bro. The question is would they make retain any info from 10 years ago and make cross examine it.

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Re: odd scenario

Post by Casa » Wed Apr 27, 2016 2:17 pm

All information submitted with visa applications is held permanently on the UKVI system and cross-checked for any inconsistencies.
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Re: odd scenario

Post by OneT » Wed Apr 27, 2016 2:20 pm

Thanks for the quick reply.
In worst case scenario if they do cross examine- would it affect me in any way or would it be just be a rejection for my bro?

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Re: odd scenario

Post by Casa » Wed Apr 27, 2016 2:22 pm

Impossible to predict with any certainty. It partly depends on whether you would have been granted your student visa if you had told the truth in the application.
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Re: odd scenario

Post by OneT » Wed Apr 27, 2016 2:26 pm

OK.
Would it still matter if granting my citizenship was based solely on me having Tier 1 visa for 5 years and then ILR as a result of it - and not because I was issued the student visa(the normal 10 year route for ILR)?

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Re: odd scenario

Post by Casa » Wed Apr 27, 2016 2:27 pm

I can't confirm either way. It's your call.
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Re: odd scenario

Post by secret.simon » Wed Apr 27, 2016 4:18 pm

OneT wrote:I am the only sibling
Did you state that you were an only sibling or an only child?
OneT wrote:The form B I submitted didn't listed any siblings I had that time.
It sounds like you had siblings at the time and that you willfully did not mention them. Is that correct?
OneT wrote:I have a slight odd scenario.
There is a name for it; deception.
OneT wrote:I am a naturalised UK citizen.
Nothing to worry about then. They are unlikely to revoke it. Were this to occur before you naturalised, that would have counted against the "good character" requirements.
OneT wrote:The question is would they make retain any info from 10 years ago and make cross examine it.
Yes.
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Re: odd scenario

Post by OneT » Wed Apr 27, 2016 5:34 pm

secret.simon wrote:
OneT wrote:I am the only sibling
Did you state that you were an only sibling or an only child?
OneT wrote:The form B I submitted didn't listed any siblings I had that time.
It sounds like you had siblings at the time and that you willfully did not mention them. Is that correct?
OneT wrote:I have a slight odd scenario.
There is a name for it; deception.
OneT wrote:I am a naturalised UK citizen.
Nothing to worry about then. They are unlikely to revoke it. Were this to occur before you naturalised, that would have counted against the "good character" requirements.
OneT wrote:The question is would they make retain any info from 10 years ago and make cross examine it.
Yes.
Has there been scenarios where the citizenship been revoked other than national securty issues as they call it.
for e.g. based on anomalies -or deception- in the applicant's unrelated immigration history(unrelated as the student visa didn't played a part in my ILR) found after the naturalisation process. I have briefly searched the net but couldn't find any cases.

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Re: odd scenario

Post by Casa » Wed Apr 27, 2016 5:39 pm

There have been reports on the forum of ILR being revoked when the BC application is refused...but no BC revoked that I'm personally aware of. This doesn't bode well however for your brother's visitor visa application.
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Re: odd scenario

Post by secret.simon » Wed Apr 27, 2016 5:44 pm

OneT wrote:Has there been scenarios where the citizenship been revoked other than national securty issues as they call it.
It is much harder to revoke citizenship than it is ILR. So, you should be relatively safe.

But the deception may be flagged up in any further application you sponsor, such as any future spousal visa, for instance.

Make an SAR on the Home Office to see what information they have on you.
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Re: odd scenario

Post by OneT » Thu Apr 28, 2016 11:10 am

It seems then I cant or shouldn't even apply for my parents sponsor visa - as they ll have to mention their children etc on the form. A simple mistake would now cost me dearly.
Regarding SAR - would it not sound suspicious why I am asking for info after naturalisation. Asking for SAR does it change any mode of investigations the case worker would normally do for applications submitted after SAR?

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