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Princess101
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Posted April 23, 2002 04:41 PM
My boyfriend (Canadian National) is coming here in a few weeks on a WHV. Whilst working casually he hopes to do a bit of job hunting to find a position in his career field which is IT (programmer).His prospective employer would then apply for a WP for him. What I would like to know is are there many people working in IT under a WHV, and also can they recommend any agencies which are sympathetic to considering non EU nationals? I have read many postings on this site of people (SA's/Kiwis/Aussies) who ARE working in their career under on a WHV, and wanted to know how they pulled it off....:-)
Any replies would be MUCH appreciated people.
Good luck to all in their endeadours
Much Love!

[ April 23, 2002: Message edited by: Princess101 ]

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Member # 128
Posted April 23, 2002 04:44 PM
The working holidaymakers scheme doesn’t allow for the holder to pursue a career, i.e., IT. People working in IT under WHV and the companies hiring them, are committing an immigration offence.
Princess101
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Member # 3085
Posted April 23, 2002 04:52 PM
Yes I realise that. He has no intention of working illegally, I have just heard of many people who do get work on a WHV in IT and wanted to know which agencies are more sympathetic to looking for non EU nationals. Of the agencies I have contacted on his behalf,the general response has been "sorry we can't help non EU nationals" Ahhhhh!
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Member # 128
Posted April 23, 2002 04:55 PM
Sorry but your original question seemed to imply otherwise.

His only advantage would be the ability to attend interviews in person. Other than that, he’ll still have to struggle with the reluctance of companies and agencies to deal with people who’ll need a work permit. Try www.workpermit-recruitment.com and www.sybersolve.com .

antipodean
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Member # 2155
Posted April 23, 2002 04:57 PM
I think they work part time. They're really in the grey area of the law. TNT or southern cross magazines often run articles on the latest interpretation of the WHV regulations. You're right though, a significant minority of WHV holders are working in the city as accountants or IT professionals. However, they usually work on 3-6 month contracts. I personally would seek professional legal advice before trying this.
Sanwar
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Member # 104
Posted April 23, 2002 05:28 PM
Hi

It is true that there are a number of people working in the UK under the WHV in various "professional level" jobs. This is currently not allowed. The law will probably change in future so that working holidaymakers will be able to take on any type of work. However, when the changes take place the maximum period under WHV will probably be reduced from two years to one year.

Sanwar

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mystikal
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Posted April 23, 2002 10:09 PM
I think pple need to explain what the job in IT ,cos it could be anything,my friend has a WHV and works on contract basis for short periods of time on different IT related posts, some programming,some web development, some code documentation.
In one instance she developed a web solution on an informal basis which the company has now undertaken as an economic venture.Once her time limit had reached she left the company also at the WHV interview she told them she would be working in IT they did not object.
What is professional to one company may be casual employment to another.I believe as long as you do not exceed the time constraints permitted to work he should be ok.

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antipodean
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Member # 2155
Posted April 23, 2002 10:17 PM
I think mystikal has highlighted the probable reason that WHV is about to get a shake up. 'Professional' and 'furthering your career' are very subjective terms. eg a computer science lecturer (under 27 is just possible) could work do some short term programming contracts and quite rightly claim that he was not working on his career, but just using one of his skills to earn some money to supplement his holiday expenses.
Princess101
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Member # 3085
Posted April 24, 2002 09:28 AM
Thank you for all your responses, but my main question is how these people find work whilst they are out here (be it on a WHV or otherwise) I am having problems finding someone who will even consider him, let along consider him for a position!
It's all very frustrating and disheartening
Mauricio
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Member # 1882
Posted April 25, 2002 01:01 AM
Well,

My advice is to avoid agencies; there are lots of companies that are looking for human resources without the intermediation of agencies. When your boyfriend get here, tell him to get a little job doing whatever, regarding the number of houres restriction in his visa if there is any. Having this job he can apply for a National Insurance Number. After getting NIN is just to find suitable jobs adds and apply for them always regarding the restrictions of the WHV visa. None is going to ask him for a work permit if he has the NIN.

Good luck,

Princess101
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Member # 3085
Posted April 25, 2002 09:20 PM
Thank you all for your replies, but Mystikal, do you know how your friend working found her contract? Does anyone know of any places to start the search??
mystikal
Member
Member # 2457
Posted April 25, 2002 11:10 PM
OK this is a list of employment "situations" that your boyfriend could consider.

Non governmental organisations
Local Councils
Medical establishments

There are many jobs that are IT related but paying slightly less than IT companies with better working hours without the IT profession tag.Must of these "situations" that do not contravene the WHV
simply require some one to maintain, slightly configure or develop little apps without the added hassle of being fulltime with all the perks of the job.They just require a casual approach with IT skills..
Too many pple often jump to IT companies,banks,business consultancies you just have to look outside the box

smeggar
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Member # 3137
Posted April 26, 2002 01:16 PM
I have recently returned from a 2yr stint on a WHV in London contracting in IT. I am not sure if things have changed in the last 12 months but the common interpretation was that you could do whatever type of work you wanted as long as you a) only did temporary/contract work and b) worked no more than 12 months of the 2 year visa. This interpretation came from a paranoid friend who rang the Home Office and asked them.

I found work by approaching (via email) all agencies and worked for 2 large corporates while I was there and on not one single occasion did someone question me. The two agenies I worked for were large and both asked to look at my passport without questioning the validity of my WHV as I was only applying for contract positions.

Princess101
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Member # 3085
Posted April 26, 2002 09:00 PM
Smeggar
Thanks so much for your posting..it's really appreciated.
Is there anyway you can divulge which agencies you used? You can post me a private message if you feel it is more appropriate. I would be really really grateful.
Many thanks

smeggar
Junior Member
Member # 3137
Posted April 27, 2002 05:22 AM
I got my two contracts through Lorien (www.lorien.co.uk) and Harvey Nash (www.harveynash.com). I was probably on the books of 10-20 as I mainly used such web sites as www.jobserve.co.uk to locate relevant jobs and then send an email to the agency with cv attached with follow up call the next day. Like I said things may have changed in the 12 months since I have been back due to economic factors, and bear in mind it has been 2.5 years since I last actually looked for a job in the UK (my last contract lasted 18 months).

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