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neo__x
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Member # 7305
Posted December 03, 2003 02:19 AM
Hello,

Sorry if this is a bit long winded, but I am really stressed out at work, and this is my only way out - so please help me.

I just need someone to give me a reality check on whether I should go for HSMP or not (on a work permit at the moment). Here is my situation:

Degree: Bachelors in Computer Science, 106 Credit Hours - Punjab University, Pakistan

Work Experience: 6+ Years on the job experience in IT, experience in multinational companies, Holland/UK. Working as a Lead Analyst Programmer (well, doing project coordination/management/team leading most of the time) at a huge corporate company in UK (for the last 2.5 years). I have always been a permie with companies, and most of my experience is within banks and other finance companies.

Spouse has a Bachelors in Science from Punjab University.

My salary is nearly £43K, but my overall compensation/benefit package amounts to £58K (including holidays, overtime, non-contributary pension, shares etc). Well you might be wondering why the heck I am thinking of moving then... Well, All I can say is that being in a corporate company is the

WORST place in this day and age,
When outsourcing is all the rage

(Ahhh, my maiden poetry)

So, my main questions to all you peeps out there are:

1. Should I go for the '5 years work experience in a graduate level job including senior or specialist level work experience for two years' option or the regular 5 year one ?

2. My biggest concern is about my foreign academic qualifications. Do I really need to get a certification from NARIC (as indicated in the HSMP guidelines document - even though it's cryptic as I think the people at Home office will refer to the NARIC database for the qualification comparision ???)? I have heard that NARIC's ways are a bit heavy handed, and they don't think much of the oversees academic qualifications. So, basically, do I really need to get my degree (and my Spouse's degree) assessed by NARIC (and pay £50 fee for both of them) ? The Irony of it all is that Home Office themselves approved my workpermit ages ago, based on the same academic qualifications. And furthermore, I was on the same (43K) salary when I was 26 (well, I was moved to Reading, and they took my London Allowance away), but they HAD to make the under 28 years ammendment AFTER I turned 28 this year.

I would really, really appreciate if someone could answer these queries.

Many thanks,
Cheers!

neo__x
Junior Member
Member # 7305
Posted December 03, 2003 02:16 PM
Anyone ? Please ?
zimbo
Junior Member
Member # 7308
Posted December 03, 2003 05:24 PM
Hi Neo,

I can confirm to you that the HSMP team are a very good and understanding one. Try and give them a call and put your queries to them.

Regarding your qualification, you are right since you have been approved for work-permit before, there shouldnt be any problem highlting this point in your application.
Dont waste your money with any third party organisation, they just take your money and say tahk you. The proof you need is your previous WP approval. Be Confident!

Mind you I didnt have your type of problem, I can only advice that you call them direct. They are more up-front than croydon.

Wish all the Luck.

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Joseph01
Member
Member # 7141
Posted December 03, 2003 05:32 PM
neo_x

I will try to answer your questions in reverse:

2. If Punjab University is not already accredited with NARIC you may be out of luck because you appear to need the points (25 points including spouse's). If they are not already on the NARIC database, you could apply for the assessment but that probably will not change anything because the university and the degree are probably either already listed or they won't be (that's my opinion only-you need to check more). Why don't you check with Punjab University to see if they are already listed?

1. Doesn't really matter if question #2 is OK since you would already have 75 points. If #2 is not OK (degrees are not accredited), the extra 10 points will still not get you 65 points (will only get to 60 from 50).

I think you need to resolve the academic points issue first. Good luck!

Joseph

neo__x
Junior Member
Member # 7305
Posted December 03, 2003 05:38 PM
Hello Zimbo/Joseph !

Thanks a lot for replying - and giving me the confidence to go ahead. When you say I should talk to the HSMP team directly, do you mean the Home Office HSMP team or the WorkPermit.com HSMP team ?

I thought the HSMP Customer Services office was in Sheffield ? And we have to submit the document pack to Doncaster ?

Also, how long does it take for the HSMP to be processed (I have a holiday booked on the 18th of December) so do you think its risky sending my passport to the Home Office (as it might not be back in time). Does one still need to send passports if they are already in UK ?

cheers

zimbo
Junior Member
Member # 7308
Posted December 03, 2003 05:54 PM
Neo,

I mean sheffield.
Go for it.

Regards

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Joseph01
Member
Member # 7141
Posted December 03, 2003 05:56 PM
Neo_x

BTW Zimbo, the WP qualifications do not necessarily require a degree; they could be satisfied by work experience instead. So having a WP approved does not necessarily mean that the degree was acceptable and used by WP(UK) as a qualification. HSMP will look at the degree more closely than WP(UK).

Neo_X, your'e right: the HSMP team is in Sheffield but you post the application to Doncaster.

It generally (when there are no problems) takes about a week for approval and stamping of passports, which you need to send in. It is probably too close to your trip for comfort.

Joseph

neo__x
Junior Member
Member # 7305
Posted December 03, 2003 06:03 PM
Curses !! Guess I will have to do it when I come back from holiday.

It seems a little strange they have to look into the degree aspect more closely for HSMP, because after 6-7 years down the lane, in the practical world, I don't think what you studied ages ago is used at all, becasue you constantly learn on the job in different areas, do certifications, learn new things etc (sorry for this narrow minded approach, but during my professional career in IT, this has been my observation - I can't say the same for other professions though - please don't start a flame war ).

I will call HSMP tomorrow and find out more.

Cheers

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