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Jungga
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Member # 7395
Posted January 05, 2004 07:48 PM
How difficult is it for a American to obtain a work permit for the UK/Ireland? Where do I begin? I am an Archaeologist with computer skills, does that help? Any info would be great, thanks.
ajayxyz
Member
Member # 7225
Posted January 06, 2004 12:23 PM
Isn't UK work permit same for all countries ?

Could you share the reason why u moving to UK/Ireland for work ?

Jungga
Junior Member
Member # 7395
Posted January 06, 2004 03:13 PM
ajayxyz

i would just like to gain experience in my field in Ire/UK. i have heard form many people that the Archaeology there is really incredible.

studyuk2004
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Member # 7154
Posted January 06, 2004 04:46 PM
Middle East and Asia is even better for archeology.
Kayalami
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Member # 5984
Posted January 06, 2004 05:50 PM
quote:

How difficult is it for a American to obtain a work permit for the UK/Ireland? Where do I begin? I am an Archaeologist with computer skills, does that help? Any info would be great, thanks.

The UK Work Permit System is one whereby a UK employer applies for a Work Permit on behalf of an employee who is not a national of the European Economic Area or otherwise requires authorisation to be in employment in the UK. The WP system is administered by Work Permits UK part of the Immigration & Nationality Directorate of the UK Home Office.

Both the sponsor and the potential employee must meet various conditions for an application to be considered and for it to be successful including but not limited to:

1. The employee having the appropriate level of education and skills.

2. The employer being a bonafide UK registered and operating company in good standing - so don't get your cousin to appply for a WP through his shop

3. The job being advertised which applies to Tier 2 applications which proves that no EEA national or UK permanent resident exists who is qualified enough for the job.

4. Conversely Tier 1 applications do not require proof of advertisment by the employer so they are processed faster - can be within 1 day. Tier 1 applications include those jobs where skills are in short supply aka shortage occupation list e.g. most medical professions such as nurses, doctors and pharmacists as well as vets, teachers and actuarians. There is a glut of IT skills and all IT occupations were removed from Tier 1 in 2002. Tier 1 also includes board level jobs, intra company transfers and some high level inward investment jobs. I am not sure as to the demand for Archeologists in the UK but a search through google etc may shed some light (get it light - archeology..dark holes).

5. The fact that you are an American should not have a bearing on the application. Americans as non visa nationals used to be able to turn up at a UK Port of Entry with a WP and get admitted into the UK for a period of time in line with the WP but no more - you must apply for a WP visa at a British Embassy, High Commission/ Consulate etc abroad.

6. A WP can be issued to a max 5 years - after 4 years on a WP you can apply for Indefinite Leave To Remain in the UK aka Permanent Residence. After 12 months on ILR you can apply for naturalisation as a British Citizen.

7. A WP is not portable i.e. is for a specific job and employer. If you lose/ leave your job you are required to leave the UK within 28 days or change status. Anectodal evidence including posts on the board indicate the Home Office are fairly relaxed when the period between jobs is relatively short i.e. circa 3 mths. Note that if you leave the UK after leaving your job then re-enter on the basis of that WP you are deemed to have misrepresented your facts and are liable to removal as an illegal entrant.

8. The Home Office have also introduced The Highly Skilled Migrant Programme a self petioning scheme for employment authorisation. This does not restrict you to a single employer and also allows self employment although within a designated skill area e.g if HSMP issued as an Archeologist then you can't be a vet.

9. In regards to employment in Ireland you may wish to review the Embassy of Ireland in Washington DC website.


Good Luck

[ January 06, 2004: Message edited by: Kayalami ]

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Jungga
Junior Member
Member # 7395
Posted January 06, 2004 07:25 PM
Kayalami,

Wow, thanks for that thorough bit of info. So work permits are required for anyone staying over 3 months, correct? I am sure i will have more questions later, Ha! thank you much.

Cheers!

Kayalami
Member
Member # 5984
Posted January 07, 2004 09:14 AM
quote:
Kayalami,
Wow, thanks for that thorough bit of info. So work permits are required for anyone staying over 3 months, correct? I am sure i will have more questions later, Ha! thank you much.

Cheers!


Please re-read my post and in particular the links to the various official government sites. The requirement to hold work authorisation is not related to the length of time one is in the relevant country so your 'only people staying over 3 months require work authorisation' statement is somewhat incorrect - if you require work authorisation then you must hold such even if you are here for 1 day although such may be overcome by holding a visitor visa for business purposes which it appears would not fit into your plans.

Good Luck

[ January 07, 2004: Message edited by: Kayalami ]

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Samran
Member
Member # 894
Posted January 07, 2004 11:09 AM
Jungga,

A very long shot, but do you have any parents or grand parents born in Europe, UK or Ireland? If so (and depending on which country) you may be eligible for some sort EU passport.

ajayxyz
Member
Member # 7225
Posted January 07, 2004 11:51 AM
parents.. grand parents.... great grand ..?? How many generations they consider ?
Jungga
Junior Member
Member # 7395
Posted January 07, 2004 03:04 PM
Samran

I will look into my grandparents origin to find out if that is even an option. I only have one living grandparent but she will be no help (her cheese fell off her cracker a long time ago).

Thanks

antipodean
Member
Member # 2155
Posted January 07, 2004 03:49 PM
Grandparents need not be alive for ancestry purposes. I obtained UK ancestry visa via my maternal grandmother, who was long dead when I was born and who only lived in the UK for a few years.
ajayxyz
Member
Member # 7225
Posted January 08, 2004 12:18 PM
may be this link is of some use to u jungga. But it's quite old link
http://www.ljnelson.com/personal/musings/ustouk.htm

You may visit this DB also good one http://www.uk-yankee.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=visas

Jungga
Junior Member
Member # 7395
Posted January 12, 2004 09:35 PM
Thanks ajayxyz,

I havn't had a chance to look at these links in depth but I will as soon as I can.

thanks again!

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